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Lawal likely out for the season
Posted: Fri Jan 7, 2011 12:22 am
by KopLegend
From Coro:
Suns' Gani Lawal will need surgery on a torn ACL in his right knee that he injured in practice today. Likely will end his season.
Oh well. He wasn't getting minutes anyways
Re: Lawal likely out for the season
Posted: Fri Jan 7, 2011 12:36 am
by Miklo
Eek, that's dangerous for a second round pick who's hardly played minutes on an NBA court. I hope we give him a chance.
Re: Lawal likely out for the season
Posted: Fri Jan 7, 2011 12:38 am
by BurningHeart
Just fantastic.
Re: Lawal likely out for the season
Posted: Fri Jan 7, 2011 12:42 am
by RocPHX
Wow.
Re: Lawal likely out for the season
Posted: Fri Jan 7, 2011 12:46 am
by lilfishi22
Terrible news. I really liked him.
Re: Lawal likely out for the season
Posted: Fri Jan 7, 2011 1:10 am
by JohnVancouver
This really ruined my day -
Re: Lawal likely out for the season
Posted: Fri Jan 7, 2011 1:12 am
by MaryvalesFinest
This probably ends his NBA career but at least he made 500k which would take an average person 10 or more years to make.
Re: Lawal likely out for the season
Posted: Fri Jan 7, 2011 1:32 am
by Just_Win
Yeah a torn ACL is serious business. His career is most likely done.
MaryvalesFinest wrote:This probably ends his NBA career but at least he made 500k which would take an average person 10 or more years to make.
Re: Lawal likely out for the season
Posted: Fri Jan 7, 2011 1:43 am
by realsunsfan
WOW, are you guys freakin serious ???? End his career ??? Do you know how many players in the NBA today have had this same injury and are still playing........Dejuan Blair ring a bell ??? He has NO acl in either knee.........end his career....geez give me a break......
Re: Lawal likely out for the season
Posted: Fri Jan 7, 2011 1:47 am
by Risensun
ACL tears are one of the worst injuries. Players are never even close to the same. It robs you of any speed you have. It's always a possibility you could play again but even after years of rehab you will never have the same level of explosiveness. A real shame... I didn't think it was possible but our front court got even weaker... Making the need to trade for a PF even more pressing.
Re: Lawal likely out for the season
Posted: Fri Jan 7, 2011 1:55 am
by Miklo
realsunsfan wrote:WOW, are you guys freakin serious ???? End his career ??? Do you know how many players in the NBA today have had this same injury and are still playing........Dejuan Blair ring a bell ??? He has NO acl in either knee.........end his career....geez give me a break......
Yeah but the point is Gani hasn't done crap professionally so his baseline is...the D League. It's tremendously hard to come back 100%, and he'd be coming back 100% to a game he's never played yet. I personally don't think his career has to be over but it's a threat.
Re: Lawal likely out for the season
Posted: Fri Jan 7, 2011 2:00 am
by Kerrsed
We will never see him in a Suns uniform again.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM1RChZk1EU[/youtube]
Re: Lawal likely out for the season
Posted: Fri Jan 7, 2011 2:01 am
by realsunsfan
Risensun wrote:ACL tears are one of the worst injuries. Players are never even close to the same. It robs you of any speed you have. It's always a possibility you could play again but even after years of rehab you will never have the same level of explosiveness. A real shame... I didn't think it was possible but our front court got even weaker... Making the need to trade for a PF even more pressing.
Read the following.....
The most difficult part about having ACL surgery is the extensive rehabilitation. The process begins with getting one's range of motion back, followed by extensive strengthening exercises. In the typical program, it usually takes the player about a year before he or she can return to a high level of competition. However, with determination and a diligent rehabilitation program, players can usually return to near pre-injury form.Dr. Robert Salis is co-director of the Sports Medicine Fellowship at Kaiser Permanente Medical Center in Fontana, Calif. He also serves as team physician at Pomona College in Claremont and is an associate clinical professor of Family Medicine within the UCR/UCLA Biomedical Sciences Program
Re: Lawal likely out for the season
Posted: Fri Jan 7, 2011 2:14 am
by Miklo
realsunsfan wrote:Risensun wrote:ACL tears are one of the worst injuries. Players are never even close to the same. It robs you of any speed you have. It's always a possibility you could play again but even after years of rehab you will never have the same level of explosiveness. A real shame... I didn't think it was possible but our front court got even weaker... Making the need to trade for a PF even more pressing.
Read the following.....
The most difficult part about having ACL surgery is the extensive rehabilitation. The process begins with getting one's range of motion back, followed by extensive strengthening exercises. In the typical program, it usually takes the player about a year before he or she can return to a high level of competition. However, with determination and a diligent rehabilitation program, players can usually return to near pre-injury form.Dr. Robert Salis is co-director of the Sports Medicine Fellowship at Kaiser Permanente Medical Center in Fontana, Calif. He also serves as team physician at Pomona College in Claremont and is an associate clinical professor of Family Medicine within the UCR/UCLA Biomedical Sciences Program
What you're quoting isn't really contrary to what Risensun said. First this is about professional athletes, so this is a year of more intense therapy etc than any "regular person" could ever afford or have time for. Yes Gani does have access to those resources. But even what you quoted said, "return to a high level of competition". That means absolutely nothing - it means the athletes can play sports to some extent competitively. Then the quote goes on to say, "
usually return to
near pre-injury form".
A torn ACL is absolutely one of the worst injuries an athlete could fear. And it makes it much worse when the athlete hasn't been proven to be an NBA level player yet. Someone now needs to give an unproven second rounder with injury issues a chance. Like I said earlier I think they will, but this is serious stuff man.
Re: Lawal likely out for the season
Posted: Fri Jan 7, 2011 2:25 am
by Risensun
Miklo wrote:realsunsfan wrote:Risensun wrote:ACL tears are one of the worst injuries. Players are never even close to the same. It robs you of any speed you have. It's always a possibility you could play again but even after years of rehab you will never have the same level of explosiveness. A real shame... I didn't think it was possible but our front court got even weaker... Making the need to trade for a PF even more pressing.
Read the following.....
The most difficult part about having ACL surgery is the extensive rehabilitation. The process begins with getting one's range of motion back, followed by extensive strengthening exercises. In the typical program, it usually takes the player about a year before he or she can return to a high level of competition. However, with determination and a diligent rehabilitation program, players can usually return to near pre-injury form.Dr. Robert Salis is co-director of the Sports Medicine Fellowship at Kaiser Permanente Medical Center in Fontana, Calif. He also serves as team physician at Pomona College in Claremont and is an associate clinical professor of Family Medicine within the UCR/UCLA Biomedical Sciences Program
What you're quoting isn't really contrary to what Risensun said. First this is about professional athletes, so this is a year of more intense therapy etc than any "regular person" could ever afford or have time for. Yes Gani does have access to those resources. But even what you quoted said, "return to a high level of competition". That means absolutely nothing - it means the athletes can play sports to some extent competitively. Then the quote goes on to say, "
usually return to
near pre-injury form".
A torn ACL is absolutely one of the worst injuries an athlete could fear. And it makes it much worse when the athlete hasn't been proven to be an NBA level player yet. Someone now needs to give an unproven second rounder with injury issues a chance. Like I said earlier I think they will, but this is serious stuff man.
+1 for saving me a lengthy response Miklo.
Re: Lawal likely out for the season
Posted: Fri Jan 7, 2011 2:36 am
by JasonDaPsycho
OMG. That sounds horrible. Now is the time to put on the "pray for the best, expect the worst" mentality. I sincerely hope he will be able to recover.
Don't forget, as half-assed our FO and owner are, our medical staff resurrected countless number of lives.
Re: Lawal likely out for the season
Posted: Fri Jan 7, 2011 2:42 am
by Kerrsed
JasonDaPsycho wrote:OMG. That sounds horrible. Now is the time to put on the "pray for the best, expect the worst" mentality. I sincerely hope he will be able to recover.
Don't forget, as half-assed our FO and owner are, our medical staff resurrected countless number of lives.
He was a 2nd round pick. I dont see them wasting their time, money or resources on him even though they should. If it was Lopez, yeah, they would, but seeming how he has never played a single minute for the Suns, he will be in the d-league or overseas for the remainder of his career.
Re: Lawal likely out for the season
Posted: Fri Jan 7, 2011 2:46 am
by Miklo
Kerrsed wrote:JasonDaPsycho wrote:OMG. That sounds horrible. Now is the time to put on the "pray for the best, expect the worst" mentality. I sincerely hope he will be able to recover.
Don't forget, as half-assed our FO and owner are, our medical staff resurrected countless number of lives.
He was a 2nd round pick. I dont see them wasting their time, money or resources on him even though they should. If it was Lopez, yeah, they would, but seeming how he has never played a single minute for the Suns, he will be in the d-league or overseas for the remainder of his career.
I dunno he's gonna be doing PT with our training staff all season I assume, no reason to cut his contract short when it costs us nothing to keep his name on a roster. I could see him coming back next season. But yeah looking at what I'm writing this sounds a wee bit optimistic
Re: Lawal likely out for the season
Posted: Fri Jan 7, 2011 2:47 am
by realsunsfan
Miklo wrote:[ Read the following.....
What you're quoting isn't really contrary to what Risensun said. First this is about professional athletes, so this is a year of more intense therapy etc than any "regular person" could ever afford or have time for. Yes Gani does have access to those resources. But even what you quoted said, "return to a high level of competition". That means absolutely nothing - it means the athletes can play sports to some extent competitively. Then the quote goes on to say, "usually return to near pre-injury form".
A torn ACL is absolutely one of the worst injuries an athlete could fear. And it makes it much worse when the athlete hasn't been proven to be an NBA level player yet. Someone now needs to give an unproven second rounder with injury issues a chance. Like I said earlier I think they will, but this is serious stuff man.
Here is the link to the whole story.
http://espn.go.com/trainingroom/s/2000/0209/345747.htmlI never said it is not one of the worst injuries to have, but modern technology has proven time and again that this injury is no longer a definite career killer as in the past. The articla is from ESPN.com training room discussing "PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES" the quote you quoted,
"return to a high level of competition". means just that, High level of competition, as in pro sports. Furthermore, the quote
"players can usually return to near preinjury form." They are talking about Pro athletes, usually meaning "more often than not", as in it would be "unusual" for them NOT to return to near preinjury form. Some notable players who have suffered a torn acl: Barron Davis, Danning Manning, Nene, Jamal Crawford, Ron Harper, Bob Lanier, Al Harrington.......the list goes on... But my original point was, this is not a definite career ending injury for Gani as was being said.
Re: Lawal likely out for the season
Posted: Fri Jan 7, 2011 2:57 am
by Kerrsed
Miklo wrote:I dunno he's gonna be doing PT with our training staff all season I assume, no reason to cut his contract short when it costs us nothing to keep his name on a roster. I could see him coming back next season. But yeah looking at what I'm writing this sounds a wee bit optimistic
Just a wee bit?