Trade Discussion Thread 2: DRAGIC/PICK FOR BROOKS Page 21

Post #1 » by **Miklo** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:25 pm

The other one got to 100 pages, keep it going!

MaryvalesFinest · Post #2 » by **MaryvalesFinest** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:26 pm

I'm not religious...but let's all pray to Jesus/Allah/Buddah that the Suns make a trade...

Dalerax · Post #3 » by **Dalerax** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:27 pm

I know some people are afraid of interrupting chemistry or whatever by doing a trade, but seriously, VC needs to go.

TheMan44 · Post #4 » by **TheMan44** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:28 pm

Jermaine O'Neal for Childress and a pick?

Definitely YES.

It is not like Childress is getting playing time nor will he fit in next season with Hill, Pietrus, and Dudley all possibly coming back. And let's not forget Childress cannot shoot therefore cannot play starting shooting guard at all.

Jermaine O'Neal is not going to play much, but that's okay. He and Warrick can play backup PF and Warrick can take over since Jermaine is injured all the time.

You might as well get Jermaine with only 2 yrs left than Childress with 5 years left.

Nash/Drag/Dow
Vince/Pete
Hill/Duds
Frye/O'Neal/Warrick
Lpz/Gort/Siler

NiGhtWiSh · Post #5 » by **NiGhtWiSh** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:28 pm

for me, from financial point of view, pure swap O'Neal - Childress is great. Swap + pick - from financial point of view is good, too. This swap has nothing to do with basketball.
I'm for it.

YouTube · Post #6 » by **Kerrsed** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:30 pm

MaryvalesFinest wrote:I'm not religious...but let's all pray to Jesus/Allah/Buddah that the Suns make a trade...

You forgot about the most important deity of all........ The Flying Spaghetti Monster!

JohnVancouver · Post #7 » by **JohnVancouver** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:30 pm

Alex Kennedy - 02/23/2011 2:04pm EST-

The New Orleans Hornets continue to shop Marcus Banks' expiring contract. The Hornets have tried to move his $4,752,000 ending deal for much of the season, but have had little success. If he is not traded, Banks will ask for his release from the Hornets. The two sides have discussed a buyout, but New Orleans wanted the veteran guard to give up a large portion of his salary, which ended talks. There is still the possibility that Banks is moved as part of a larger package, but the odds of him being traded straight up remain slim.

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TheMan44 · Post #8 » by **TheMan44** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:30 pm

The problem is nobody wants Vince - not Childress.

But if Bobs are willing to do G Wallace for Pryz - I cannot understand why they won't take Vince since he is also expiring and is a temporary wing filler for the departing Wallace. Bobs already have 4 centers...can't imagine why Joel Pryz is their liking.....

YouTube · Post #9 » by **Kerrsed** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:32 pm

TheMan44 wrote:The problem is nobody wants Vince - not Childress.

But if Bobs are willing to do G Wallace for Pryz - I cannot understand why they won't take Vince since he is also expiring and is a temporary wing filler for the departing Wallace. Bobs already have 4 centers...can't imagine why Joel Pryz is their liking.....

They just wanted him because he is an expiring. Thats all they wanted, an expiring and a draft pick. They also wanted to dump some salary (Diaw), but Cho wasnt having none of that.

TheMan44 · Post #10 » by **TheMan44** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:32 pm

I need a trade.

I'll pray with you too Kerrsed, for a trade.

Any of the following departures would be nice: Vince, Josh, Warrick, or Lopez if need be.

SSOL · Post #11 » by **SSOL** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:36 pm

Some of the best trades are the ones you don't make. I know this is an exciting time and it is hard to see some teams make splashy moves while the Suns sit still. However, making a move simply to make a move is not the answer. I'm sure the Suns would move Vince if 1) a team was interested and 2) we could acquire decent talent in return. Problem is, by all accounts both of the requirements are not being met.

O'Neal for Childress? Really, people? O'Neal is doneeeeeeee. The only reason to make that move is to give the $arver haters more reason to scream cheap. Standing pat, if a decent deal is not out there, is the right "move" to make.

ShawnBronald · Post #12 » by **ShawnBronald** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:37 pm

Kerrsed wrote:
TheMan44 wrote:The problem is nobody wants Vince - not Childress.

But if Bobs are willing to do G Wallace for Pryz - I cannot understand why they won't take Vince since he is also expiring and is a temporary wing filler for the departing Wallace. Bobs already have 4 centers...can't imagine why Joel Pryz is their liking.....

They just wanted him because he is an expiring. Thats all they wanted, an expiring and a draft pick. They also wanted to dump some salary (Diaw), but Cho wasnt having none of that.

Why couldn't we have done this: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=4b5urj4 ?

BurningHeart · Post #13 » by **BurningHeart** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:40 pm

Phoenix should try to trade for Kirilenko and Favors now.

Carter's expiring, Childress, and Orlando's pick maybe?

Favors clearly won't get time behind Millsap and Big Al.

NiGhtWiSh · Post #14 » by **NiGhtWiSh** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:42 pm

ShawnBronald wrote: Why couldn't we have done this: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=4b5urj4 ?

'couse MJ is saving money. And VC has no value at the moment so no one wants him.

ShawnBronald · Post #15 » by **ShawnBronald** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:43 pm

BurningHeart wrote:Phoenix should try to trade for Kirilenko and Favors now.

Carter's expiring, Childress, and Orlando's pick maybe?

Favors clearly won't get time behind Millsap and Big Al.

But why would Utah do that trade?

Blackification · Post #16 » by **Blackification** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:48 pm

BurningHeart wrote:Phoenix should try to trade for Kirilenko and Favors now.

Carter's expiring, Childress, and Orlando's pick maybe?

Favors clearly won't get time behind Millsap and Big Al.

I doubt Utah is going to give up young talent. If they are in rebuild mode the suns might be able to work something out with carters contract for kirilenko but no way is favors going to phoenix in a trade like that.

YouTube · Post #17 » by **Kerrsed** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:48 pm

BurningHeart wrote:Phoenix should try to trade for Kirilenko and Favors now.

Carter's expiring, Childress, and Orlando's pick maybe?

Favors clearly won't get time behind Millsap and Big Al.

Utah has been getting many many calls about Favors, and has let all teams know they are not interested in trading him. From what i read, they understand he is not ready to be a starting PF yet, and will bring him off the bench for Milsap. In a year or two, when he is ready, they will trade off Milsap.

TheMan44 · Post #18 » by **TheMan44** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:50 pm

ShawnBronald wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:
TheMan44 wrote:The problem is nobody wants Vince - not Childress.

But if Bobs are willing to do G Wallace for Pryz - I cannot understand why they won't take Vince since he is also expiring and is a temporary wing filler for the departing Wallace. Bobs already have 4 centers...can't imagine why Joel Pryz is their liking.....

They just wanted him because he is an expiring. Thats all they wanted, an expiring and a draft pick. They also wanted to dump some salary (Diaw), but Cho wasnt having none of that.

Why couldn't we have done this: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=4b5urj4 ?

Because nobody - including Bobcats - want a long-term 5-yr deal such as Childress. They want expirings and draft picks. That's it. They want to shed salary hence trading Diaw/Wallance. Why'd they wanna take back 5 years of useless Childress?

BurningHeart · Post #19 » by **BurningHeart** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:53 pm

I'd figure Utah is in full re-build now, so they could use a swing player, a pick, and cap space. But since I just woke up and Kerrsed says Utah says they plan on keeping Favors, then maybe not.

JohnVancouver · Post #20 » by **JohnVancouver** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:53 pm

ShawnBronald wrote:
BurningHeart wrote:Phoenix should try to trade for Kirilenko and Favors now.

Carter's expiring, Childress, and Orlando's pick maybe?

Favors clearly won't get time behind Millsap and Big Al.

But why would Utah do that trade?

my sentiments exactly

interesting to hear that teh Utah management told Jerry they would blow the team up if he'd stay. he said no, and they shipped DWill anyway