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Bill Simmons on Phoenix Suns

Posted: Sun Apr 3, 2011 3:32 pm
by JasonDaPsycho
NBA Power Poll: Non-contenders

THE WRONG CONFERENCE

17. Phoenix Suns
An incredible ten months that included …

A. Owner Robert Sarver pushing Steve Kerr out after Kerr miraculously got his Suns under the luxury tax AND to the cusp of the Finals.

B. Sarver replacing Kerr with agent Lon Babby, who acquired two of his clients (Hedo Turkoglu and Josh Childress) at a prohibitive cost. One never plays; the other got traded within a few months. So that's worked out great. And for the record, Sarver allowed Amare Stoudemire to leave (defensible), then spent 80 percent of what it would have kept to keep Stoudemire on Channing Frye, Childress and Hakim Warrick (indefensible).

C. The team trading Turkoglu and Jason Richardson for Marcin Gortat and Vince "Half-Man, Half-Amazingly Washed Up" Carter, which ended up being a steal (Gortat emerged as the franchise's first legitimate center since … Alvin Adams?) and a disaster (Carter single-handedly murdered their playoff hopes).

D. Nash suffering through a brutally tough season off the court. To be honest, I wasn't talking about his divorce, I was talking about the fact that every morning, he had to wake up thinking, "Oh my God, I have to play with Vince Carter."

E. You realize Grant Hill quietly just had one of the most incredible seasons in the history of the league, right? He played 135 games total from 2000 to 2006; in the past three seasons, he's played every game but three and averaged 30 minutes a night. This season, he tossed up 48-84-39 percentages for FG/FT/3FG, scored 13 a game, played the best perimeter defense of anyone other than Andre Iguodala and even wrote a takedown essay of Jalen Rose for The New York Times. He's 38 years old! This shouldn't be happening.

One other thing: If you allowed me one do-over for the 2010-11 season, mine would be Phoenix trading Hill to Boston before the deadline for Semih Erden, Avery Bradley, Von Wafer and $3 million. Hill would have gotten one more chance to play for a title. Phoenix would have finally gotten good karma for a transaction. The Celtics could have avoided the potentially disastrous Perkins trade (Hill would have given them Pierce/Allen protection); I would have avoided 2,970 texts, emails and phone calls from my father bitching about the Perkins trade; and also, we could have seen an NBA team with Shaq, KG, Pierce, Allen, Hill and Jermaine O'Neal on it. Combined income since 1992: two kajillion dollars. Too bad. But hey, at least Sarver was consistent; he's like Nic Cage, you can always count on him to do the wrong thing.


http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons%2F110401&sportCat=nba

Re: Bill Simmons on Phoenix Suns

Posted: Sun Apr 3, 2011 5:07 pm
by lilfishi22
Sucks, I know.

Re: Bill Simmons on Phoenix Suns

Posted: Sun Apr 3, 2011 5:18 pm
by aIvin adams
he's (Please Use More Appropriate Word). its spelled 'alvan adams'

Re: Bill Simmons on Phoenix Suns

Posted: Sun Apr 3, 2011 5:56 pm
by ruiner
Article speaks truth (Except for the dumb Hill trade idea).


lol Nash/Carter thing is hilarious.

Re: Bill Simmons on Phoenix Suns

Posted: Sun Apr 3, 2011 6:14 pm
by shd
D. Nash suffering through a brutally tough season off the court. To be honest, I wasn't talking about his divorce, I was talking about the fact that every morning, he had to wake up thinking, "Oh my God, I have to play with Vince Carter."

:rofl:

Re: Bill Simmons on Phoenix Suns

Posted: Sun Apr 3, 2011 6:24 pm
by BurningHeart
Grant Hill Drinks Sprite

Re: Bill Simmons on Phoenix Suns

Posted: Sun Apr 3, 2011 7:33 pm
by JohnVancouver
After this season, we'll be lucky if he doesn't drink hemlock

Re: Bill Simmons on Phoenix Suns

Posted: Sun Apr 3, 2011 7:43 pm
by RocPHX
Its sad how we really screwed ourselves this season..

Re: Bill Simmons on Phoenix Suns

Posted: Sun Apr 3, 2011 7:51 pm
by RunSunRun
This franchise has just made one bad decision after another, after another, after another.

Its sad that a major part of defining Nash's career will be the bad managerial decisions that have hindered our franchise's success.

Re: Bill Simmons on Phoenix Suns

Posted: Sun Apr 3, 2011 10:47 pm
by thamadkant
I disagree with the Nicholas Cage bit

- The Rock was a good film
- Face Off was also good
- GhostRider was meh
- The Weatherman was okay
- Leaving Las Vegas was GREAT
- Raising Arizona was good
- National Treasure 1 and 2 were okay (they are for Family viewing not full action)
- Adaptation was GREAT
- Con Air was good
- And other films, he's always had good performances.

Sure he's on a slump at the moment, but their are more notable actors to use as an example of "doing wrong things" than Nic Cage.

Re: Bill Simmons on Phoenix Suns

Posted: Sun Apr 3, 2011 11:22 pm
by RunDogGun
I liked him in Valley Girl, but he was Nicolas Copala back then. :D

Re: Bill Simmons on Phoenix Suns

Posted: Sun Apr 3, 2011 11:27 pm
by RunDogGun
As for the article, he gave the right blame for the most part. However, the suckiness of Carter wasn't even as sad as the amount of playing time and starts he was given by Gentry. Gentry should be added to the list of who screwed this team this year. He was half the coach he was last year. :(

Re: Bill Simmons on Phoenix Suns

Posted: Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:10 am
by Kerrsed
thamadkant wrote:I disagree with the Nicholas Cage bit

- The Rock was a good film
- Face Off was also good
- GhostRider was meh
- The Weatherman was okay
- Leaving Las Vegas was GREAT
- Raising Arizona was good
- National Treasure 1 and 2 were okay (they are for Family viewing not full action)
- Adaptation was GREAT
- Con Air was good
- And other films, he's always had good performances.

Sure he's on a slump at the moment, but their are more notable actors to use as an example of "doing wrong things" than Nic Cage.


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Re: Bill Simmons on Phoenix Suns

Posted: Mon Apr 4, 2011 6:40 am
by Orange_Blooded
thamadkant wrote:I disagree with the Nicholas Cage bit

- The Rock was a good film
- Face Off was also good
- GhostRider was meh
- The Weatherman was okay
- Leaving Las Vegas was GREAT
- Raising Arizona was good
- National Treasure 1 and 2 were okay (they are for Family viewing not full action)
- Adaptation was GREAT
- Con Air was good
- And other films, he's always had good performances.



Gone in 60 seconds was pretty good.

Cage has been in some decent movies, but most were decent in spite of him not because of him IMO.

Re: Bill Simmons on Phoenix Suns

Posted: Mon Apr 4, 2011 7:25 am
by lilfishi22
Kerrsed wrote:Image

hahahahaha

He's made a few good movies, but he's also made so many bad ones.

Re: Bill Simmons on Phoenix Suns

Posted: Mon Apr 4, 2011 8:11 am
by mybloodisorange
Even though alot of people didnt like the movie, I liked him in Kick Ass also.

Re: Bill Simmons on Phoenix Suns

Posted: Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:43 am
by Dalerax
I guess this is a Nic Cage discussion thread now.

Honestly, Con Air is one of my favorite movies of all time.

Re: Bill Simmons on Phoenix Suns

Posted: Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:51 am
by sunskerr
National Treasure(the first) was pretty solid entertainment.

Re: Bill Simmons on Phoenix Suns

Posted: Mon Apr 4, 2011 2:08 pm
by Frank Lee
Nic Cage = King of the Stinkers


He's turned into a movie ho who has little regard for script quality. In some good ones, but he is a career .250 hitter if that.


Simmons cracked me up with his Carter comments. I enjoy his style. (Bill's that is)

Re: Bill Simmons on Phoenix Suns

Posted: Tue Apr 5, 2011 12:51 am
by aIvin adams
nic cage isnt in a slump. as far as i can tell, nic cage makes movies to serve either of at least two purposes: 1) to make a good movie or 2) to make a **** of money.

im sure he has made crappy movies with the former purpose in mind. if i were to hazard a guess, i would offer 'the wicker man' as a possible example.

recently, 'bad lieutenant,' 'kick ass,' 'weather man' and 'lord of war' were all good.

its unfair to blame him for making bad movies just bc he has some combination of a drug problem/gambling problem/investment problem or for whatever reason wants to pull an 8-figure check every now and then