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Trade Alert: Pietrus to Toronto - *Trade postponed Pg 4*

Posted: Fri Dec 9, 2011 3:40 pm
by Miklo
Suns are sending Pietrus to the Raps for a second round pick, pending medical examination:

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/217203/Raptors_Acquire_Mickael_Pietrus_From_Suns

Re: Trade Alert: Pietrus to Toronto for 2nd Rounder

Posted: Fri Dec 9, 2011 3:45 pm
by mybloodisorange
Nice move. The Suns weren't planning on using him since he hurt his knee over the summer anyway so this clears him off the books while netting a second rounder. If the Suns sign Brown and re-sign Hill there wouldnt have been any minutes for him anyway even if he was healthy.

Re: Trade Alert: Pietrus to Toronto for 2nd Rounder

Posted: Fri Dec 9, 2011 4:02 pm
by Cutter
Another good move by the Suns. Clearing cap space for next year. Niether VC nor Peitrus wanted to come to Phoenic in the trade last year. If we sign Grant we have 4 wings....Dudley, Brown, Childress, Hill. Lots of minutes for everyone.

Re: Trade Alert: Pietrus to Toronto for 2nd Rounder

Posted: Fri Dec 9, 2011 4:20 pm
by MarJJMar
Pietrus was FA next year anyway.

Re: Trade Alert: Pietrus to Toronto for 2nd Rounder

Posted: Fri Dec 9, 2011 4:30 pm
by rsavaj
Cutter wrote:Another good move by the Suns. Clearing cap space for next year. Niether VC nor Peitrus wanted to come to Phoenic in the trade last year. If we sign Grant we have 4 wings....Dudley, Brown, Childress, Hill. Lots of minutes for everyone.


He was an expiring, so we didn't clear any additional cap space.

I think(hope) they probably did this so they could maybe up their offer to Grant.

I do wish we got more than just a "conditional" second round pick.

Re: Trade Alert: Pietrus to Toronto for 2nd Rounder

Posted: Fri Dec 9, 2011 4:38 pm
by pidi
yah, good move. i realy like the suns offseason so far. never been a big fan of pietrus.
not enough bball iq :-)

Re: Trade Alert: Pietrus to Toronto for 2nd Rounder

Posted: Fri Dec 9, 2011 4:39 pm
by Risensun
rsavaj wrote:I do wish we got more than just a "conditional" second round pick.
This is the Suns we're talking about. Just be glad they didn't "give up" a pick in the trade...

Re: Trade Alert: Pietrus to Toronto for 2nd Rounder

Posted: Fri Dec 9, 2011 4:41 pm
by JasonDaPsycho
Risensun wrote:
rsavaj wrote:I do wish we got more than just a "conditional" second round pick.
This is the Suns we're talking about. Just be glad they didn't "give up" a pick in the trade...

:lol: :lol: :lol:
True. Thank God our first round pick is still in our hands.

Re: Trade Alert: Pietrus to Toronto for 2nd Rounder

Posted: Fri Dec 9, 2011 4:45 pm
by rsavaj
The best part about this is that Mickael Pietrus garnered pretty much exactly what Amare did.

Let that sink in for a minute.

Re: Trade Alert: Pietrus to Toronto for 2nd Rounder

Posted: Fri Dec 9, 2011 5:01 pm
by Phystic
I like the trade a lot. I used to love Pietrus but he just seemed disinterested here the whole time. Glad to see the Suns are thinking about the draft, hopefully we can work a way to get another FIRST round pick also. I, sincerely, hope this isn't to up our offer to Grant Hill.


I love him and all but he shouldn't be resigned. Let him go. Start the rebuild in a year that has a stocked draft. No point in postponing the inevitable and remaining mediocre-bad just kills us. Fans lose interest, we don't get a draft pick that will jump start the rebuild, we don't have a roster that warrants free agents to sign here, and we don't make the playoffs ( or 1st round fodder to the Thunder/Lakers)

Re: Trade Alert: Pietrus to Toronto for 2nd Rounder

Posted: Fri Dec 9, 2011 5:39 pm
by RunDogGun
rsavaj wrote:
Cutter wrote:Another good move by the Suns. Clearing cap space for next year. Niether VC nor Peitrus wanted to come to Phoenic in the trade last year. If we sign Grant we have 4 wings....Dudley, Brown, Childress, Hill. Lots of minutes for everyone.


He was an expiring, so we didn't clear any additional cap space.

I think(hope) they probably did this so they could maybe up their offer to Grant.

I do wish we got more than just a "conditional" second round pick.


Clearing out some cap was actually important this year. With Brooks cap hold, we either had to give up on him, or get rid of Pietrus the way we did. If we stay under the cap, we can bid on guys that get amnestied.

Anyone think Nash can get BDavis here for $1.5 million?

Re: Trade Alert: Pietrus to Toronto for 2nd Rounder

Posted: Fri Dec 9, 2011 5:46 pm
by GrantHill
We aren't under the cap.

Re: Trade Alert: Pietrus to Toronto for 2nd Rounder

Posted: Fri Dec 9, 2011 6:08 pm
by HSOB SIRHC
Apparently you guys also gave us 1 million.

Re: Trade Alert: Pietrus to Toronto for 2nd Rounder

Posted: Fri Dec 9, 2011 6:43 pm
by JohnVancouver
rsavaj wrote:
Cutter wrote:Another good move by the Suns. Clearing cap space for next year. Niether VC nor Peitrus wanted to come to Phoenic in the trade last year. If we sign Grant we have 4 wings....Dudley, Brown, Childress, Hill. Lots of minutes for everyone.


He was an expiring, so we didn't clear any additional cap space.

I think(hope) they probably did this so they could maybe up their offer to Grant.

I do wish we got more than just a "conditional" second round pick.


Moving him to TO doesn't free up any money at all?

VC gone, for $4mil in salary this year, Pietrus gone at $5.3. I thought with VC gone we had about 5 mil to spend, and with MP's added on that would be about $10. i understand we don;t want any big, long-[term deals right now unless it were a windfall thing but surely with TO absorbing Mp into their cap-space we end up with some savings?

Re: Trade Alert: Pietrus to Toronto for 2nd Rounder

Posted: Fri Dec 9, 2011 6:55 pm
by WTFsunsFTW
anyone know what our team salary is at now? Are we above the new minimum with getting rid of VC and Pietrus?

Re: Trade Alert: Pietrus to Toronto for 2nd Rounder

Posted: Fri Dec 9, 2011 7:07 pm
by gaspar
WTFsunsFTW wrote:anyone know what our team salary is at now? Are we above the new minimum with getting rid of VC and Pietrus?

about $70M inc. cap holds, Hill, Brown and Telfair

Re: Trade Alert: Pietrus to Toronto for 2nd Rounder

Posted: Fri Dec 9, 2011 7:15 pm
by JohnVancouver
Now send Brooks to NY for Turiaf ($4mil expiring) and TDouglas.

Re: Trade Alert: Pietrus to Toronto for 2nd Rounder

Posted: Fri Dec 9, 2011 7:17 pm
by GrantHill
We can't trade Brooks. He's still a FA.

Re: Trade Alert: Pietrus to Toronto for 2nd Rounder

Posted: Fri Dec 9, 2011 7:56 pm
by Sun Scorched
GrantHill wrote:We can't trade Brooks. He's still a FA.


He's a UFA and we can sign and trade him.

Re: Trade Alert: Pietrus to Toronto for 2nd Rounder

Posted: Fri Dec 9, 2011 8:10 pm
by GrantHill
He's a RFA, we gave him the QO.