Kerr still thinks suns should resign Lopez

[Sunsdeuce]

He can on 620 and said suns should resign him. Wow that ballsy. Kerr is a big reason were in the mess were in today. Also implied it was Nash that wanted to trade Marion for shaq. He said he was against the trade.

This guy traded two draft pics plus kt for nothing! Drafted Lopez ( worthless). Goran, who really only had a few highlight games.

As for Lopez, he thinks we should keep him because 7 footers are hard to find. Yea if Lopez actually stood up straight he would probably qualify as a 7 footer. But is a hunchback that plays at a 6 foot level and has an iq of a lab rat. I will take an amundson as a center over Lopez any day.

Just wanted to hear your thoughts

[_Nashoholic_]

Kerr needs to shut the hell up. If I were him I would act like I never was the Suns GM.

[Qwigglez]

I liked Kerr as the GM...

[doa]

You idiots. Kerr took us to the conference finals. He was an excellent GM. I wish we'd resign HIM.

[DRK]

Kerr needs to shut the hell up. If I were him I would act like I never was the Suns GM.

Are you really as clueless as this team?

[RunDogGun]

You idiots. Kerr took us to the conference finals. He was an excellent GM. I wish we'd resign HIM.

Didn't Kerr draft Lopez when there were a bunch of good bigs still on the board? Then trade two second round picks and $500,000 just to move up three spots to get Goran? One of those picks was GSW's high draft pick for the next year which turned into DBlair? To top that off he payed Goran's team another $500,000 and gave him a better contract than Lopez. Then followed that draft with Clark, who only sees garbage minutes in ORL.

F*ck and I haven't even gotten to the Porter hiring, which lead to trading two of Nash's friends on the team before firing Porter.

Kerr sucked as GM, but the good news is anyone would look better than D'Antoni as GM, so I guess he could have taken a dump on the court and it would have been perceived as a better job.

[sunskerr]

RunGunDog, what has Dejuan Blair accomplished? Goran and Lopez were playing well in 2010 and Lopez went down with the back injury. He also brought in Jason Richardson and Jared Dudley for an old Raja Bell and Fat Diaw. All of a sudden we had a big three with Nash/Amare/JRich. Let's not forget about Grant Hill.

Maybe you should look at the whole picture before you keep making the ridiculous conclusions that you do. Kerr even went back on his decision by firing Porter, a clear acknowledgment of his own mistake. For you see, the fact is we had a team with good talent when Kerr was around.

[RunDogGun]

RunGunDog, what has Dejuan Blair accomplished? Goran and Lopez were playing well in 2010 and Lopez went down with the back injury. He also brought in Jason Richardson and Jared Dudley for an old Raja Bell and Fat Diaw. All of a sudden we had a big three with Nash/Amare/JRich. Let's not forget about Grant Hill.

Maybe you should look at the whole picture before you keep making the ridiculous conclusions that you do. Kerr even went back on his decision by firing Porter, a clear acknowledgment of his own mistake. For you see, the fact is we had a team with good talent when Kerr was around.

Grant came here because of D'Antoni's easy practices and we have the best medical staff around, please don't try and give that credit to Kerr.

Isn't Blair starting for the Spurs? Didn't he score ten points in the first few minutes against us the other night? Goran and Lopez were playing alright by their second season, how about now? Were they worth what we gave/passed up?

Both Raja and Boris played quite well for us at different times, and they reason they had to go was because of Porter. It seemed quite stupid to HAVE to trade them when the problem was really Porter. Plus we would have made the playoffs when Amare went down, because Boris would have stepped in.

Nash/JRich/Amare are great, if offense is the only thing needed in basketball.

I did look at the whole picture, I just didn't comment on it all.

[DRK]

No one. NO ONE would've called DeJuan Blair dropping as far as he did. The dude was projected a lottery pick, until there were alarm bells about him not having ACL's. Cant blame Kerr for that. If you look at the players drafted around Blair, they are all scrubs.

[sunskerr]

I concede that Grant favored Mckey D's easy practices. But even so, it's still up to Kerr (ok, and Sarver's ink) to be the final judge if Hill can still contribute. Blair is still not top notch starting material, and you jump to an epic conclusion based of 1 game against us. And even when it's known that big men tear our defense to shreds. Again it's a freak accident that Lopez went down the way he did. If you're implying that Kerr should've forseen said back injury, then I don't know what else to comment on... Now Goran, I'm sure his shortcomings can just be chalked up to the decline in talent we had after Amare left. Everyone pretty much played worse except Stevie Nash.

Oh yeah, but Raja and Boris were terrible before Porter came in. Raja was clearly on the down (easily a step slower) in 07-08 and Boris still just sucked. He had to go. Again the trade netted us a great role player and our most athletic wing since JJ. You can't say the trade was bad. And still no one can predict that Amare would go and injure a retina. You seem like you knew these injuries would happen.

[RunDogGun]

No one. NO ONE would've called DeJuan Blair dropping as far as he did. The dude was projected a lottery pick, until there were alarm bells about him not having ACL's. Cant blame Kerr for that. If you look at the players drafted around Blair, they are all scrubs.

It was still a very high pick in that draft, we could have easily just given our pick that year. Blamed Kerr for the extra high pick. Lots of guys can be had in the second round if you have good scouting. I can name two, MGasol and Gortat. But you are probably right, Kerr would have just messed up that pick as well.

[RunDogGun]

I concede that Grant favored Mckey D's easy practices. But even so, it's still up to Kerr (ok, and Sarver's ink) to be the final judge if Hill can still contribute. Blair is still not top notch starting material, and you jump to an epic conclusion based of 1 game against us. And even when it's known that big men tear our defense to shreds. Again it's a freak accident that Lopez went down the way he did. If you're implying that Kerr should've forseen said back injury, then I don't know what else to comment on... Now Goran, I'm sure his shortcomings can just be chalked up to the decline in talent we had after Amare left. Everyone pretty much played worse except Stevie Nash.

Oh yeah, but Raja and Boris were terrible before Porter came in. Raja was clearly on the down (easily a step slower) in 07-08 and Boris still just sucked. He had to go. Again the trade netted us a great role player and our most athletic wing since JJ. You can't say the trade was bad. And still no one can predict that Amare would go and injure a retina. You seem like you knew these injuries would happen.

Raja was coming off an injury, but he still shot 47% from three that year. Boris was really just insurance for when Amare got injured, albeit expensive, but that is D'Antoni's crappy GMing. We knew Amare would have that eye injury, because Boris gave it to him in practice before he was traded. I think it was Boris's way of getting the starting job from Amare.

I like Dudley, but JRich was almost as dumb as Amare, and it was just tough watching all that athletic talent be wasted in those two moronic individuals. They could score, but they could also be scored on with ease.

Overall it was the Porter signing that ruined that year. Guys didn't want to play for him. Kerr then spent the next year or so trying to fix his mistakes. So completely failing and getting an average score nets you a "D".

[RunDogGun]

Oh, and Lopez hopped around like a cartoon vulture, it was easy to see that some sort of back issues were in his future.

[sunskerr]

I concede that Grant favored Mckey D's easy practices. But even so, it's still up to Kerr (ok, and Sarver's ink) to be the final judge if Hill can still contribute. Blair is still not top notch starting material, and you jump to an epic conclusion based of 1 game against us. And even when it's known that big men tear our defense to shreds. Again it's a freak accident that Lopez went down the way he did. If you're implying that Kerr should've forseen said back injury, then I don't know what else to comment on... Now Goran, I'm sure his shortcomings can just be chalked up to the decline in talent we had after Amare left. Everyone pretty much played worse except Stevie Nash.

Oh yeah, but Raja and Boris were terrible before Porter came in. Raja was clearly on the down (easily a step slower) in 07-08 and Boris still just sucked. He had to go. Again the trade netted us a great role player and our most athletic wing since JJ. You can't say the trade was bad. And still no one can predict that Amare would go and injure a retina. You seem like you knew these injuries would happen.

Raja was coming off an injury, but he still shot 47% from three that year. Boris was really just insurance for when Amare got injured, albeit expensive, but that is D'Antoni's crappy GMing. We knew Amare would have that eye injury, because Boris gave it to him in practice before he was traded. I think it was Boris's way of getting the starting job from Amare.

I like Dudley, but JRich was almost as dumb as Amare, and it was just tough watching all that athletic talent be wasted in those two moronic individuals. They could score, but they could also be scored on with ease.

Overall it was the Porter signing that ruined that year. Guys didn't want to play for him. Kerr then spent the next year or so trying to fix his mistakes. So completely failing and getting an average score nets you a "D".

It took him at the very least 2 words to fix his mistake: "you're fired" (I hope it wasn't that harsh). Bottom line though is that Bell was old. The trade was good, end of story. And Amare's injury against the clippers was the one that did him in for the rest of the year. We had a shot at making the playoffs even with the first 3 months of Porter before Amare went down.

Come the year after that and we've had a whole training camp with a new addition in Frye and all of sudden we make the conference finals. There was no lack of talent that year and we were not an old team.

[RunDogGun]

Actually it was Boris's initial poke that was the real problem, it was Amare's stupidity of not wearing the goggles that lead to the fatal blow from Thorton. It was bound to happen, and the hit wasn't even that hard from Al.

So you are saying that Raja and Boris didn't play well, but you don't think that not wanting to play for Porter might have been the cause? The year before when we ran the offense through Boris in the last two games in the Spurs series, we all saw what he can do.

If Porter wasn't there in the first place, we would have made the playoffs. Boris could have taken Amare's spot, and we wouldn't have had to play Barnes at the four.

Also, once Porter was gone LB went on a scoring spree. We wouldn't have needed JRich's scoring.

Kerr didn't fix his mistake by saying " your fired". The damage had already been done. Nash's friends had been traded, we lost our best three point shooter, and lost two very high basketball IQ guys for one.

[DRK]

No one. NO ONE would've called DeJuan Blair dropping as far as he did. The dude was projected a lottery pick, until there were alarm bells about him not having ACL's. Cant blame Kerr for that. If you look at the players drafted around Blair, they are all scrubs.

It was still a very high pick in that draft, we could have easily just given our pick that year. Blamed Kerr for the extra high pick. Lots of guys can be had in the second round if you have good scouting. I can name two, MGasol and Gortat. But you are probably right, Kerr would have just messed up that pick as well.

The Marc Gasols and Gortat's in drafts happen very rarely. 99 times out of a 100 a team would take a Taylor Griffin in the second round than a Marcin Gortat. No way that can be used as a valid arguement man.

[RunDogGun]

The Marc Gasols and Gortat's in drafts happen very rarely. 99 times out of a 100 a team would take a Taylor Griffin in the second round than a Marcin Gortat. No way that can be used as a valid arguement man.

Point was, good players can be had in the early second round. Unless you don't like guys like DeAndre Jordon, Rammon Sessions, Monta Ellis, Brandon Bass, Marcus Thorton, Carl Landry and so on. It is a valid argument.

[Frank Lee]

We had two of the worst GMs in the league.... back to back.... jury is out on #3.


Never understood the Kerr-plunk love. His bad moves cast a gigantic nuclear-cloud-like shadow on Planet Orange. We are still feeling some fall out.

Outside of hiring D'Ant to GM, hiring the Kerrveball may have been the worst Sarver move.

I also despised the placating looselipping spin that dribbled out of his little pretty-perfect-hair head, puddling up on the floor for his lapdogging minions to slurp.


Kerr-nel Klink will never be asked to GM again.

[DRK]

The Marc Gasols and Gortat's in drafts happen very rarely. 99 times out of a 100 a team would take a Taylor Griffin in the second round than a Marcin Gortat. No way that can be used as a valid arguement man.

Point was, good players can be had in the early second round. Unless you don't like guys like DeAndre Jordon, Rammon Sessions, Monta Ellis, Brandon Bass, Marcus Thorton, Carl Landry and so on. It is a valid argument.

I got the point, but my point is that its extremely rare. I mean, you may get only 2 players drafted in the second round that actually make a good contribution to an NBA team.

[sunskerr]

Actually it was Boris's initial poke that was the real problem, it was Amare's stupidity of not wearing the goggles that lead to the fatal blow from Thorton. It was bound to happen, and the hit wasn't even that hard from Al.

So you are saying that Raja and Boris didn't play well, but you don't think that not wanting to play for Porter might have been the cause? The year before when we ran the offense through Boris in the last two games in the Spurs series, we all saw what he can do.

If Porter wasn't there in the first place, we would have made the playoffs. Boris could have taken Amare's spot, and we wouldn't have had to play Barnes at the four.

Also, once Porter was gone LB went on a scoring spree. We wouldn't have needed JRich's scoring.

Kerr didn't fix his mistake by saying " your fired". The damage had already been done. Nash's friends had been traded, we lost our best three point shooter, and lost two very high basketball IQ guys for one.