Rondo for Nash?

[maoriboy]

Would you guys do it ?

Rondo + Jermaine O'Neal for Nash and Gortat

And if somehow Hill too?

Thoughts ?

[GrantHill]

If you would include one of your pick I'd do it.

Hill / Nash / Gortat for Rondo / O'Neal / Dooling / Filler (Pavlovic) / LAC or BOS pick.

Nash / Bradley
Allen / Pietrus
Pierce / Hill
Garnett / Bass
Gortat / Wilcox

Great team.

[jlove_26]

Hell NO!!!! I'd love to get Rondo as our PG of future, but no way do we add Gortat to that deal. Maybe a Rondo/O'Neal for Nash/Lopez

[Ryu]

Maybe a Rondo/O'Neal for Nash/Lopez

This.

There`s no way I would give Nash AND Gortat both for Rondo.

[maoriboy]

Hell NO!!!! I'd love to get Rondo as our PG of future, but no way do we add Gortat to that deal. Maybe a Rondo/O'Neal for Nash/Lopez

Why ? A player of Gortat's caliber is best served on playoff teams.

And wouldn't you guys prefer to tank, a guy like Gortat brings defense in the middle and rebounding, something that would lead to the odd win.

Im just saying that it's not in the best interest of the future of your team.

And ill throw in Boston's 1st rounder

[rsavaj]

Not Nash AND Gortat.

[Cutter]

I like the way you make the thread title "Rondo for Nash", then quietly slip Gortat into the trade as well.

How about Rondo for Nash, Lopez?

[RunDogGun]

Where's Kerrsed, "not this thread again" picture? I like the way he calmly rips are team and says we should include Gortat because he would be better on. Playoff team. When the funny thing is, if we were in the East we might be a playoff team with a few more wins.

Also, I watched the game last night, and Rondo has to be the worst shooting point guard in the league. I thought he was building a house with all those bricks.

[bwgood77]

I've seen Bill Simmons mention this as a plausible trade a couple of times and both times thought he was nuts. He either doesn't quite realize how good Gortat is or just is playing on the fact that Sarver has historically made bone headed moves hoping he would make another one.

[grumpysaddle]

Yes... trade away the best two players... this is the best strategy for a struggling team. :\ People are funny.

[Azsports77]

First off Bill Simmons is a glorified Boston Celtic fan and a fan of the La Clippers not the Suns which is why he would like a Rondo for NAsh trade to bad it will never happen. You Boston fans are no different than LAKer fans trying to find away to extend the shelf life of their team because they are greedy when it comes to having a great team to bad their also delusional both teams are closer to being in mediocre land than they are contending. So Boston fan you think its a fair trade if we trade NAsh and Gortat for a one dimensional punk who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn and who needs players to take the defensive pressure of him so he can look like a great player . Sorry but the Suns don't have any one who can take pressure of him and he would be a complete bust if he came here everyone of his flaws would be noticeable here. Why do you think Danny Ainge is so desperate to get rid of him attitude and he is nothing without 3 allstars placed around him. So no Boston fan we will not make that trade and you need to leave or stop making stupid posts.

[Saberestar]

NO.

[Ryu]

Maoriboy is ok, I remember that some deluded person on their board not so long ago wanted Nash, Gortat, Morris and 2 first round picks FOR Rondo and O`Neil`s corps. **** hillarious.

[maoriboy]

Where's Kerrsed, "not this thread again" picture? I like the way he calmly rips are team and says we should include Gortat because he would be better on. Playoff team. When the funny thing is, if we were in the East we might be a playoff team with a few more wins.

Also, I watched the game last night, and Rondo has to be the worst shooting point guard in the league. I thought he was building a house with all those bricks.

Im sorry if you thought that this was seen as ripping your team.

That's not my intention, i didn't realize you wanted to continue being a playoff team with an aging Nash and 28 or so center in Gortat.

I just made the assumption that giving you youth and picks (Either the LAC or BOS) and sending your player to a contender for one last throw at it would be something that you wanted.

I didn't realize that you enjoyed being in this tier of basketball, too good for a decent pick, too bad to get anywhere really important in the playoffs.

And i'm impressed that you've watched last nights game of Rondo. So are you assessing Rondo on this one game or are we going to ignore his playoff success and ability to rise in big game situations?

[maoriboy]

First off Bill Simmons is a glorified Boston Celtic fan and a fan of the La Clippers not the Suns which is why he would like a Rondo for NAsh trade to bad it will never happen. You Boston fans are no different than LAKer fans trying to find away to extend the shelf life of their team because they are greedy when it comes to having a great team to bad their also delusional both teams are closer to being in mediocre land than they are contending. So Boston fan you think its a fair trade if we trade NAsh and Gortat for a one dimensional punk who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn and who needs players to take the defensive pressure of him so he can look like a great player . Sorry but the Suns don't have any one who can take pressure of him and he would be a complete bust if he came here everyone of his flaws would be noticeable here. Why do you think Danny Ainge is so desperate to get rid of him attitude and he is nothing without 3 allstars placed around him. So no Boston fan we will not make that trade and you need to leave or stop making stupid posts.

Firstly this really isn't an extension of contending, this is one last heave at the ring, and if a trade like this were to happen, we would be a lot closer to being a contender then any other time this season.

Seeing that our weaknesses is our average offense and lack of rebounding, placing Nash and Gortat in spot for Rondo and O'Neal fixes most if not all of our offensive and rebounding issues.

And Phoenix fan, i do think it's a fair trade. Honestly look at it this way.

- Rondo is an all-star level player, whether you believe that he won't be able to achieve the same level of success without the big 3 is plainly misinformed, Rondo is the reason we've been a contending team for so long, his ability to rise in big game situations is incredible and his leadership abilities are simply amazing.

- Unless you enjoy 8-6 seed out in the second round / 12 - 15 1st round picks, trading Nash AND Gortat is really the best for a team that simply needs to get better through the draft. Nash offensively and Gortat defensively is going to be able to keep you guys above the worse.

- Is anyone else really more deserving of being sent to a contender then Nash?

- Is getting an All-star talent, cap relief and some picks really that bad of a pickup for sending your man to a contender, all while beginning the rebuilding process?

Come on now, don't go around saying this is dumb when in the other end of the coin is you guy's either making the playoffs and getting dropped by Oklahoma in the first round, or getting a 14th first pick, in an extremely stacked draft.

[Miklo]

^^lol, kind of backhanded concessions there "I didn't realize you guys wanted to suck"

To the topic though, I agree with the sentiment that we don't put Gortat into that trade. You think we suck with Nash and Gortat, just wait until we don't have Nash, and we're back to the last couple decades of perpetually not having a true center. And the LAC and Boston picks won't be very good picks at all.

I'd love to get my hands on Rondo, but from my perspective Gortat is untouchable right now.

[Cutter]

Boy, the Celtics time has passed, you had a great run and won a championship. However your team is entirely to old to comptete. Do you want to get smoked by Chicago in the first round? Or swept by Miami in the second round? Do you want to be a team with a first round exit year after year? Celtics are just too old to be competitive.

Everyone knows your weakness is average offense and lack of rebounding. Why not be respectful to your old timers and trade KG, Pierce and Ray Allen to teams who can actually contend?

You could trade them for expirings and some late first round picks.

Then you could Tank hard for the next several years and collect draft picks. You could "build a new core". I hear this years draft is loaded!

It'll be awesome!!!

[maoriboy]

lol unintentional of course haha

But what im trying to put out here is that you guys do suck, but is going into the bottom feeders and getting a guarenteed top 4 pick really that bad of an alternative?

With players like Andre Drummond and Anthony Davis on the board, is losing a center like Gortat really that bad when keeping him does what? Win you guys more games? Sell tickets?

I can understand that you want to keep him because big men that produce are hard to come by.

But unless he's a building block for someway of becoming a contender again in 3 - 4 seasons i don't see a plausible reason of keeping him long term

[Frank Lee]

in the other end of the coin is...

Coins dont have ends

But what im trying to put out here is that you guys do suck, but is going into the bottom feeders and getting a guarenteed top 4 pick really that bad of an alternative?

There is no guarantee to that.... the bottom 4 or 5 are really bad.

[maoriboy]

in the other end of the coin is...

Coins dont have ends

But what im trying to put out here is that you guys do suck, but is going into the bottom feeders and getting a guarenteed top 4 pick really that bad of an alternative?

There is no guarantee to that.... the bottom 4 or 5 are really bad.

Firstly ... you win that argument haha dam, meant to write side haha

Bottom 5 are bad, but in this draft it's stacked, you could end up with a guy like Beal or Lamb or Jones just in the top 7

Honestly if you had to rebuild at any time, now would be a great time with such an epic amount of prospects on the board