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Re: Game 61: Blazers(28-33) @ Suns(31-29)
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:32 am
by Kerrsed
Uh..... Felton isnt playing......and neither is Batum.
Re: Game 61: Blazers(28-33) @ Suns(31-29)
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:54 am
by SunsRback4Good
Kerrsed wrote:Uh..... Felton isnt playing......and neither is Batum.
And neither are you.
Re: Game 61: Blazers(28-33) @ Suns(31-29)
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:57 am
by SunsRback4Good
Where does it say on their website that they aren't playing. They both played perfectly fine Sunday night.
Re: Game 61: Blazers(28-33) @ Suns(31-29)
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:58 am
by SunsRback4Good
Changed lineup, Frye and Brown in.
Re: Game 61: Blazers(28-33) @ Suns(31-29)
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:08 am
by Calvin Klein
PhxSuns85 wrote:Btw, before anyone questions me I've put Morris instead of Frye because Gentry will realize Morris will be more helpful from here on out. And I believe Hill will start this game over Brown.
OK
Re: Game 61: Blazers(28-33) @ Suns(31-29)
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:29 am
by Kerrsed
PhxSuns85 wrote:Where does it say on their website that they aren't playing. They both played perfectly fine Sunday night.
Nicolas Batum (quad) said he does not expect to play in Monday's game against the Suns.
No surprise here. Batum is not expected to practice the rest of the season and he said his quad was in serious pain during Sunday's loss.The Blazers have been resting players (Raymond Felton, Jamal Crawford) and there are only four games left in their season after Monday.
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/1520/nicolas-batumRaymond Felton is starting Sunday, but is expected to be held out of Monday's game against the Suns.
Felton is battling ineffectiveness, a sore right Achilles and an expiring contract. The Blazers want to get a longer look at Nolan Smith and Jonny Flynn over the final five games of the season.
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/1140/raymond-felton
Re: Game 61: Blazers(28-33) @ Suns(31-29)
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:35 am
by SunsRback4Good
Kerrsed wrote:PhxSuns85 wrote:Where does it say on their website that they aren't playing. They both played perfectly fine Sunday night.
Nicolas Batum (quad) said he does not expect to play in Monday's game against the Suns.
No surprise here. Batum is not expected to practice the rest of the season and he said his quad was in serious pain during Sunday's loss.The Blazers have been resting players (Raymond Felton, Jamal Crawford) and there are only four games left in their season after Monday.
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/1520/nicolas-batumRaymond Felton is starting Sunday, but is expected to be held out of Monday's game against the Suns.
Felton is battling ineffectiveness, a sore right Achilles and an expiring contract. The Blazers want to get a longer look at Nolan Smith and Jonny Flynn over the final five games of the season.
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/1140/raymond-felton
Must be a different site. Thank you
Re: Game 61: Blazers(28-33) @ Suns(31-29)
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:47 am
by Kerrsed
PhxSuns85 wrote:Kerrsed wrote:PhxSuns85 wrote:Where does it say on their website that they aren't playing. They both played perfectly fine Sunday night.
Nicolas Batum (quad) said he does not expect to play in Monday's game against the Suns.
No surprise here. Batum is not expected to practice the rest of the season and he said his quad was in serious pain during Sunday's loss.The Blazers have been resting players (Raymond Felton, Jamal Crawford) and there are only four games left in their season after Monday.
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/1520/nicolas-batumRaymond Felton is starting Sunday, but is expected to be held out of Monday's game against the Suns.
Felton is battling ineffectiveness, a sore right Achilles and an expiring contract. The Blazers want to get a longer look at Nolan Smith and Jonny Flynn over the final five games of the season.
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/1140/raymond-felton
Must be a different site. Thank you
Injuries: Forward LaMarcus Aldridge (right hip) and guards Elliot Williams (right shoulder) and Raymond Felton (right Achilles) will not play and Batum (left quad) is questionable for the Blazers.
http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2012/04/trail-blazers-suns-game-preview.htmlThe Trail Blazers are implementing their youngsters for evaluation purposes and that's why Jamal Crawford didn't play tonight. He'll be back in the rotation for tomorrow's game against the Phoenix Suns and Felton and Nicolas Batum are scheduled to be out for that game.
http://www.csnnw.com/pages/landingblazers?Kings-rally-to-top-Blazers-104-103=1&blockID=689966&feedID=5212Also, as posted by Shem on the Blazers board:
Re: Game 61: Blazers(28-33) @ Suns(31-29)
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:19 pm
by Sun Scorched
Well.... hate to be thay guy who states the obvious - we need to throttle these guys early and let the 2nd unit take it on in.
But we do need to come out like this is the championship.
Re: Game 61: Blazers(28-33) @ Suns(31-29)
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:57 pm
by schnakenpopanz
Sun Scorched wrote:Well.... hate to be thay guy who states the obvious - we need to throttle these guys early and let the 2nd unit take it on in.
But we do need to come out like this is the championship.
oh you mean like the spurs handle things the other night
Re: Game 61: Blazers(28-33) @ Suns(31-29)
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:14 pm
by gaspar
Paul Coro @paulcoro
Nash said his hip feels better than even Friday & he will play tonight vs. Portland. Hill (knee) will be a game-time decision.
Re: Game 61: Blazers(28-33) @ Suns(31-29)
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:18 pm
by swe_suns
gaspar wrote:Paul Coro @paulcoro
Nash said his hip feels better than even Friday & he will play tonight vs. Portland. Hill (knee) will be a game-time decision.
Yes but hopefully he won't have to play more than 20 minutes.
Re: Game 61: Blazers(28-33) @ Suns(31-29)
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:49 pm
by Calvin Klein
Just leave Hill on the bench. We can win without him.
Re: Game 61: Blazers(28-33) @ Suns(31-29)
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:18 pm
by YFZblu
Sun Scorched wrote:Well.... hate to be thay guy who states the obvious - we need to throttle these guys early and let the 2nd unit take it on in.
But we do need to come out like this is the championship.
Would you rather get throttled in the first round, or acquire a nice juicy lottery pick to throw onto the pile of assets neeeded to improve the team, and keep Steve Nash around?
At this point even if Phoenix makes the playoffs and has a respectable first round, it'll still be up to the FO to improve the team to Nash's standard (whatever that may be). At this point I'd rather collect that extra draft asset in order to improve the team for next season.
Re: Game 61: Blazers(28-33) @ Suns(31-29)
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:24 pm
by 7Insomniac
YFZblu wrote:Sun Scorched wrote:Well.... hate to be thay guy who states the obvious - we need to throttle these guys early and let the 2nd unit take it on in.
But we do need to come out like this is the championship.
Would you rather get throttled in the first round, or acquire a nice juicy lottery pick to throw onto the pile of assets neeeded to improve the team, and keep Steve Nash around?
At this point even if Phoenix makes the playoffs and has a respectable first round, it'll still be up to the FO to improve the team to Nash's standard (whatever that may be). At this point I'd rather collect that extra draft asset in order to improve the team for next season.
It doesn't matter where we finish anymore. It's come to the point where I'm going to extremely pissed if we don't make the playoffs.
Re: Game 61: Blazers(28-33) @ Suns(31-29)
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:03 pm
by Sun Scorched
This difference in draft position based on missing vs. making the post season at this point isn't enough to make me root against winning.....
In fact, it never is.
Re: Game 61: Blazers(28-33) @ Suns(31-29)
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:16 pm
by Kerrsed
Sun Scorched wrote:This difference in draft position based on missing vs. making the post season at this point isn't enough to make me root against winning.....
In fact, it never is.
But....but....but....being in the lotto gives you the chance, even if it is minute, to move into the top 3!
Lets look at some of the teams who did it in the past.
1990: Seattle Supersonics - 2nd Pick
1989-90 record: 41-41
2nd Pick Odds: 3.7%
Draftee: Gary Payton
1993: Orlando Magic - 1st pick
1992-93 record: 41-41
Lottery Odds: 1.52%
Draftee: Chris Webber
1999: Charlotte Hornets - 3rd pick
1998-99 record: 26-24
3rd Pick Odds: .73%
Draftee: Baron Davis
2000: New Jersey Nets - 1st pick
1999-2000 record: 31-51
1st pick odds: 6.4%
Draftee: Kenyon Martin
2001: Los Angeles Clippers - 2nd pick
2000-2001 record: 31-51
2nd pick odds: 3.38%
Draftee: Tyson Chandler
2007: Portland Trail Blazers - 1st pick
2006-2007 record: 32-50
1st pick odds: 5.3%
Draftee: Greg Oden
2008: Chicago Bulls - 1st pick
2007-2008 record: 33-49
First Pick Odds: 1.7% (9/14)
Draftee: Derek Rose
Its very rare that the worst team gets the top pick. Someone always leapfrogs a bunch of teams. We are currently slated for the 14th pick, but if we were to manage losing most of our remaining games and other teams start winning (Utah/Portland/Milwaukee), we could jump up to the 11th pick, or even more so, get lucky and jump ahead of the pack and get a top 3 pick by winning the lotto.
Small chance, but still theres a chance. Id rather take that small chance than get bounce out of the playoffs in the 1st round.
Re: Game 61: Blazers(28-33) @ Suns(31-29)
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:42 pm
by YFZblu
What Kerrsed said.
Re: Game 61: Blazers(28-33) @ Suns(31-29)
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:56 pm
by Sun Scorched
Kerrsed, that's interesting stuff. Never seen if presented like that - and it gives validity to the argument for sure.
However, and this may just be the way my mind is wired, as attractive of an opportunity as that is, it still hinges on a lottery - which would be foolish to strategize around.
Also, this concept that the best players get drafted 1-10 is stupid. Spurs manage to kill every draft, despite the fact that they haven't had a pick better than #20 since they drafted Duncan with #1 in 1997. Ginobili, Parker, Blair (Dragic), Splitter, Salmons, Scola, Barbosa, Hill, Udrih, Mahinmi.... it's gross.
Meanwhile perennial tank-fests continue to get great picks and continue to suck royaly.
