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Suns to renounce bird rights for Nash, Hill on June 1

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:59 am
by Cutter
Interesting article on how things look to play out with Nash and Suns managing cap space. I think Nash is definitely going to re-sign with the Suns, and the Suns need to take the steps to maximize cap space to go after free agents and renouncing the rights to Nash and Hill is the first step.

http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2012/4/26/2976820/look-for-phoenix-suns-to-renounce-bird-rights-on-steve-nash-and-grant

Look For Phoenix Suns To Renounce Bird Rights On Steve Nash And Grant Hill
by Alex Laugan on Apr 26, 2012 7:54 AM MST in Phoenix Suns Commentary

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When a player becomes a free agent, their current team retains "Bird Rights" that translate into an inflated cap hold that counts against the team's salary cap. "Bird Rights" were named after Larry Bird as a way for teams to keep their players despite being over the salary cap. The cap hold was added to make it so teams can't sign new players and THEN re-sign their existing ones. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

In general, "Bird Rights" give the advantage to the player's current team. A team with "Bird Rights" on a player can offer one more year (5 vs. 4) and higher raises (7.5% vs. 4.5%) than any other NBA team. In the new CBA, even sign-and-trades must now be at the lower numbers rather than the higher. Only 4 years with 4.5% raises on sign-and-trades now.

In Steve Nash's case, "Bird Rights" are likely a non-issue. Nash's last contract, when he was a young 35, went for 3 years with a DECLINING salary. Going forward, he is asking for a 3-year deal and, with presumably diminishing skills, there is no reason to expect Nash's next contract to include raises either.

Under those parameters, "Bird Rights" mean nothing to the Suns or Nash.



The only other value that "Bird Rights" offers is for teams to exceed the cap to re-sign their own player. However, you can't both sign new players AND keep your existing ones if the combination puts you over the $58 million cap.

The Suns currently have $31 million in guaranteed salaries for the 2012-13 season (Gortat, Frye, Warrick, Childress, Dudley, Morris, and 1/2 of Telfair's deal), leaving a little more than $26 million to sign new players or re-sign current ones.

Factor in the logical move to retain "Bird Rights" on younger players Robin Lopez, Shannon Brown and Aaron Brooks ($16.9 million between them) for negotiating and trade leverage purposes during free agency, and you're down to only $9 million in cap space on day 1 of free agency. Sure, those guys will eventually sign for less somewhere. But until they do, that's the collective hold on the Suns cap.

Nash's cap hold is another $17 million. Grant Hill's is another $9 million. If the Suns keep those guys' "Bird Rights" as well, suddenly there is NO MONEY to spend in free agency beyond the mid-level exception. Ugh.

Renouncing Nash does not diminish the Suns' ability to re-sign him. He won't be asking for anything special that "Bird Rights" offers. Same with Grant Hill.

This is why you are very likely to see 2 major things happen in June:

1) Suns renounce "Bird Rights" on Steve Nash and Grant Hill, creating a wave of new 'Nash is GONE!' articles

2) Since the first move only gives them $9 million to spend, which is lower they likely want, Suns also use amnesty on Josh Childress' $6 million cap number

With those moves, the Suns starting number of spendable money on day 1 of free agency is $15 million.

Without those moves, the Suns have NOTHING to spend.

Nash has said that he wants major improvement to the talent on the roster before he considers re-signing. Without the starter bucket of $15 million, the Suns can't honor those wishes. They can later re-sign Nash and Hill with the freedom created when Lopez, Brown and Brooks sign (with anyone) for a lot less than their collective $16.9 million in cap holds.

Re: Suns to renounce bird rights for Nash, Hill on June 1

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:23 am
by 7Insomniac
lol at us exceeding the cap.

Re: Suns to renounce bird rights for Nash, Hill on June 1

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:42 am
by Kerrsed
So pretty much, in order to have any chance at keeping Nash, we have to amnesty Childress. Good luck convincing Sarver that! :lol:

Re: Suns to renounce bird rights for Nash, Hill on June 1

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:47 am
by Cutter
Kerrsed wrote:So pretty much, in order to have any chance at keeping Nash, we have to amnesty Childress. Good luck convincing Sarver that! :lol:

I agree. We owe Childress something like $21M for 3 more seasons. I can't imagine Sarver cutting a $21M check to make Chill go away either.

Re: Suns to renounce bird rights for Nash, Hill on June 1

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:30 am
by DirtyDez
Don't amnesty Childress, he will play an momentous role in getting Bazz, Zeller or Noel.

Re: Suns to renounce bird rights for Nash, Hill on June 1

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:43 am
by Kerrsed
DirtyDez wrote:Don't amnesty Childress, he will play an momentous role in getting Bazz, Zeller or Noel.


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Re: Suns to renounce bird rights for Nash, Hill on June 1

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:50 am
by ATTL
DirtyDez wrote:Don't amnesty Childress, he will play an momentous role in getting Bazz, Zeller or Noel.


Tank like the bobcats.

Re: Suns to renounce bird rights for Nash, Hill on June 1

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:50 am
by thamadkant
Kerrsed wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:Don't amnesty Childress, he will play an momentous role in getting Bazz, Zeller or Noel.


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Imagine Suns get to draft their own "Kobe" with Shabazz!!... the day a Suns player drop 40-45 on the Lakers every time they play... what a dream!

Re: Suns to renounce bird rights for Nash, Hill on June 1

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:43 pm
by bwgood77
Sarver won't amnesty Childress. It's MUCH more likely we just renounce the rights to Lopez, Brown and Brooks to release that $16.9M cap hold. Or at least 1 or 2 of them. It's not like the Bird rights are going to give us much of an advantage with those guys anyway. Bird rights really only matter with max guys OR if you are already over the cap and just want to re-sign your free agent.

Re: Suns to renounce bird rights for Nash, Hill on June 1

Posted: Sun May 6, 2012 12:26 pm
by tsherkin
I wish Sarver wasn't the owner of the Suns so very, very hard.

Re: Suns to renounce bird rights for Nash, Hill on June 1

Posted: Sun May 6, 2012 4:46 pm
by JohnVancouver
tsherkin wrote:I wish Sarver wasn't the owner of the Suns so very, very hard.

Hey TS - where you been? We missed you

Re: Suns to renounce bird rights for Nash, Hill on June 1

Posted: Sun May 6, 2012 6:30 pm
by Frank Lee
The difference between amnestying Warrick and Childress is significant in terms or ROI.

Warrick frees up 4 mil, Childress frees up 6 mil. Warrick would be signed likely for 1.5 generating a net loss of 2.5 mill.

Childress would be signed as well... lets say 2 mill for 3... net loss 14 million... for nothing AND add in a replacement player for his roster spot... lets say 2-3 million for someone decent. That would be spending about the same (20 mil) to replace Childress, with an unknown.

Childress actually played a reasonably solid 15 games or so when Hill went out. I think his value to the team as a contributing roster spot off sets his deal somewhat. He is likely overpaid by about 2 mill per yr...so in real numbers, thats about 6 mil. Warrick has no value real value to us with the emergence of Morris.

It seems like a colossal waste of money to shelve Chilly over 2 mill in cap space. The Front office approaches the next wave of signings with diligence, and I think they will, we will not be struggling to find cap space in the next few yrs. Consider that 10-12 million of our targeted FA's (Nash/Hill) will be short term, 2 yr deals.

Re: Suns to renounce bird rights for Nash, Hill on June 1

Posted: Tue May 8, 2012 1:16 pm
by ChaseUA
Plea S's e no Nerlens.... couldn't stand looking at that goofy bastard every game....