Official Summer League Thread

Dragic13 · Post #1 » by **Dragic13** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 7:27 am

Here is a place we can discuss undrafted prospects leading up to the summer league, our summer league team, and also discuss the games as they air live.

NBA summer leagues feature rosters that are different from the regular season. A team's summer league roster usually features a mix of (1) rookies that the team just drafted, (2) a few other players signed to that team, and (3) various undrafted players and free agents looking to get signed to that team or any other team. If a player is a free agent, and that player gets invited to play on a certain summer league team, that team obviously has some interest in him, but the player is hoping to get signed to that team or any other team that happens to be impressed by him.

With the Summer league approaching and taking place in:

Orlando on July 9th-13th

Las Vegas on July 13th-22nd

Who are the players you wish to see invited to the Suns camp?

Here is a list of the top 10 undrafted prospects via:
http://www.sbnation.com/2012/6/29/31257 ... rew-gordon

1. Scott Machado (Iona)

I'm not sure what UNC's Kendall Marshall did, besides have much better teammates, to be viewed as such a better prospect than Machado. At 6'1'' and 205 pounds, Machado is athletic enough to be an NBA PG while putting up absolutely absurd statistics in college: 13.6 points on 49.5-percent shooting and 40.4-percent from deep, 4.9 rebounds and 9.9 assists on 2.6 turnovers a game.

He's a pure point guard who did a magnificent job running Iona's uptempo offense. Last year was a good year for lightly regarded young point guards (Jeremy Lin, Isaiah Thomas). Machado, if given the right opportunity, could follow in their footsteps.

2. Drew Gordon (New Mexico)

Gordon and Kevin Jones were my two draft sleepers who didn't end up being selected. Gordon, a UCLA transfer, has two things going for him when it comes to making a roster: a legitimate skill (rebounding) and an NBA position as an athletic 6'9, 240 power forward.

3. Kevin Jones (West Virginia)

Jones' low shooting percentages from deep last year (27 percent) probably doomed his chances of being drafted, but if you dig a little deeper, they could be a little misleading. When he was a sophomore on a Final Four-bound team, playing as a role player instead of a featured contributor, he shot 40 percent from deep. If he can regain his stroke, he has a rare combination of long distance shooting and offensive rebounding (4.3 a game as a senior).

4. Henry Sims (Georgetown)

I have a soft spot for big men who can pass the basketball, and Sims, like many of the products of John Thompson III's Princeton offense, can pass the hell out of the ball. He's 6'10'' and 250 pounds with a 7'4 wingspan, and he averaged 3.5 assists a game! There's value in that.

5. William Buford (Ohio State)

A jack-of-all-trades but a master of none, Buford is a reasonably athletic 6'6'', 215-pound wing who can shoot from the perimeter (36 percent) and handle the ball without embarrassing himself. He reminds me of San Antonio's Danny Green, another role-playing wing who was somewhat overshadowed on a high profile college team.

6. Terrell Stoglin (Maryland)

Stoglin is undersized at 6', 185 pounds, but he's a natural scorer with a deadly pull-up jumper who can effectively create shots for himself off the bounce. He was also a much better distributor as a freshman (3.3 assists on 2.3 turnovers) as opposed to a sophomore (1.9 assists on 2.2 turnovers), when there was less talent around him.

7. Hollis Thompson (Georgetown)

He's got the size (6'8'', 205 pounds) and the stroke (43 percent) to be a replacement-level small forward. He's a better prospect, in my mind, than Syracuse SF Kris Joseph, who went in the second round.

8. JaMychal Green (Alabama)

There isn't one thing Green does exceptionally well, but he's an NBA caliber athlete at 6'8'', 220 pounds. However, teams prefer for their backup power forwards to be either a 3/4 or a 4/5 hybrid. Green doesn't offer nearly that type of defensive versatility.

9. Reggie Johnson (Miami)

If you watched Johnson brutalize Duke's centers (14 points, 8-10 from the foul line, eight rebounds) at the front of the rim in Miami's 77-74 loss to the Blue Devils in March, you would have a hard time believing Miles Plumlee would be drafted, in the first round no less, and Johnson wouldn't. He reminds me of Miami's Dexter Pittman.

Editor's Note: Johnson is actually returning to school and will be eligible for the 2013 NBA Draft. We regret the error.

10. Wesley Witherspoon (Memphis)

The last of John Calipari's recruits at Memphis, Witherspoon has got interesting size for a SF at 6'9'' and 205 pounds. He's long, athletic and he's not a bad three-point shooter (37 percent last year), but he never put it all together in his four years at Memphis.

Missed the cut:

Jordan Taylor (Wisconsin)

J'Covan Brown (Texas)

Tu Holloway (Xavier)

Xavier Gibson (Florida State)

Renardo Sidney (Mississippi State)

Our roster in 2010:

55 Earl Clark F
60 Dwayne Collins F
7 Zabian Dowdell G
34 Gavin Edwards F
32 Taylor Griffin F
15 Lawrence Hill F
23 Matt Janning G
11 Brandon Johnson G
0 Marcus Johnson F
31 Gani Lawal F
18 Anton Ponkrashov F
50 Shaun Pruitt F-C
1 Scottie Reynolds G
10 Ryan Toolson G

So what will our roster be this year?

YouTube · Post #2 » by **Kerrsed** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 7:53 am

I would love if we could pick up Drew Gordon. He was one of the guys i was hoping we would snag with a 2nd round pick. I hear Machado is planning on playing for the Raptors Summer League team.

Dragic13 · Post #3 » by **Dragic13** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:07 am

Kerrsed wrote:I would love if we could pick up Drew Gordon. He was one of the guys i was hoping we would snag with a 2nd round pick. I hear Machado is planning on playing for the Raptors Summer League team.

Why Toronto!

They already have PGs signed through next year and are trying to get Nash!

I bet if they get Nash they wont go after him....and if they dont get him in the FA they will go after Machado....Doesnt mean we cant steal him. Telfair isnt going to last forever...I dont mind him to much. He has great defense But on the offense of end I think we could use a better PG.

I know what some people are thinking though:

We are trying to keep Steve Nash as well, Have a qualifying offer on Aaron Brooks, have Sebastian Telfair through next year, drafted Kendall Marshall, and now want Machado!?

But I dont think we are keeping Nash or Brooks.

So Our PG rotation would be Marshall, Machado/Telfair

And Telfair will be gone after next season.

Seeing what he can do in summer league I think will interest alot of teams.

YouTube · Post #4 » by **Kerrsed** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:10 am

Dragic13 wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:I would love if we could pick up Drew Gordon. He was one of the guys i was hoping we would snag with a 2nd round pick. I hear Machado is planning on playing for the Raptors Summer League team.

Well I know you dont like Machado so you dont care lol...But why Toronto!

Actually, im really high on Machado. Always have been.

Dragic13 · Post #5 » by **Dragic13** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:13 am

Kerrsed wrote:
Dragic13 wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:I would love if we could pick up Drew Gordon. He was one of the guys i was hoping we would snag with a 2nd round pick. I hear Machado is planning on playing for the Raptors Summer League team.

Well I know you dont like Machado so you dont care lol...But why Toronto!

Actually, im really high on Machado. Always have been.

Oh, lol I guess I read into your post in the other thread wrong when I mentioned him.

My bad

There edited the post

Revived · Post #6 » by **Revived** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:18 am

Add Jet Chang to that list too! Kid has a lot of potential and can be our starter at SG.

Plus Sarver can make $$ off his marketing value!

http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/20 ... jet-chang/

Dragic13 · Post #7 » by **Dragic13** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:22 am

sunsfan88 wrote:Add Jet Chang to that list too! Kid has a lot of potential and can be our starter at SG.

Plus Sarver can make $$ off his marketing value!

http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/20 ... jet-chang/

"While checking out Terrence Ross and Arnett Moultrie in L.A., we were pleasantly surprised with the addition of a player that we had never seen (or heard of, for that matter) before. 6-5 Tsung-hsien Chang, more commonly known as “Jet”, matched up against Ross and showed that he could be the next Asian that you hear coming across your TV screen."

:lol:

I checked out his workout video and the game where he dropped 43 points.

He looks pretty solid.

To bad there isnt to much more.

For a summer league team it would be a good gamble. He would be excited he is given another shot to make the NBA. And if he proves himself we need a SG.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_woi6G2F3Q[/youtube]

Dragic13 · Post #8 » by **Dragic13** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:32 am

Kerrsed wrote:I would love if we could pick up Drew Gordon. He was one of the guys i was hoping we would snag with a 2nd round pick. I hear Machado is planning on playing for the Raptors Summer League team.

If we can somehow get rid of Frye I would be ok with another PF.

I dont think we can get rid of Warrick that easily.

But I am sure some1 will be interested in Frye.

Frye doesnt play in the paint, rebound, or is physical so I would be estatic if we cold get a player like Gordon that could do just all those things.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8TGsKdbE3I[/youtube]

GrantHill · Post #9 » by **GrantHill** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:36 am

Gordon already signed with the Maverick's Summer League Team.

Coro mentioned that Dowdell might make a comeback.

Dragic13 · Post #10 » by **Dragic13** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 7:26 pm

2012 NBA Summer League Game Schedule:
All Times listed are PACIFIC

Friday July 13
• COX Pavilion
1 PM -- Atlanta vs. Washington
3 PM -- Houston vs. Toronto
5 PM -- Golden State vs. LA Lakers
7 PM -- Sacramento vs. Charlotte

Saturday July 14
• COX Pavilion
1 PM -- Memphis vs. New York
3 PM -- Golden State vs. Denver
5 PM -- LA Lakers vs. Sacramento
7 PM -- Houston vs. Washington

Sunday July 15
• COX Pavilion
1 PM -- New York vs. Phoenix
3 PM -- Denver vs. Dallas
5 PM -- San Antonio vs. Atlanta
7 PM -- Washington vs. NBA D-League

• Thomas & Mack
3:30 PM -- Toronto vs. Miami
5:30 PM -- Cleveland vs. Charlotte
7:30 PM -- New Orleans vs. Portland

Monday July 16
• COX Pavilion
1 PM -- Atlanta vs. Boston
3 PM -- Dallas vs. Toronto
5 PM -- Cleveland vs. NBA D-League
7 PM -- LA Clippers vs. Minnesota

• Thomas & Mack
3:30 PM -- Houston vs. Sacramento
5:30 PM -- LA Lakers vs. Miami
7:30 PM -- Milwaukee vs. New Orleans

Tuesday July 17
• COX Pavilion
1 PM -- Denver vs. New York
3 PM -- Washington vs. Memphis
5 PM -- Portland vs. Houston
7 PM -- Chicago vs. Boston

• Thomas & Mack
3:30 PM -- San Antonio vs. LA Lakers
5:30 PM -- Cleveland vs. Phoenix
7:30 PM -- Minnesota vs. Charlotte

Wednesday July 18
• COX Pavilion
1 PM -- Milwaukee vs. Washington
3 PM -- Chicago vs. Houston
5 PM -- Atlanta vs. Dallas
7 PM -- San Antonio vs. LA Clippers

• Thomas & Mack
3:30 PM -- Sacramento vs. Toronto
5:30 PM -- New Orleans vs. Phoenix
7:30 PM -- Golden State vs. Miami

Thursday July 19
• COX Pavilion
1 PM -- New York vs. Toronto
3 PM -- Portland vs. Atlanta
5 PM -- Cleveland vs. Minnesota
7 PM -- NBA D-League vs. Milwaukee

• Thomas & Mack
3:30 PM -- Boston vs. Sacramento
5:30 PM -- LA Clippers vs. LA Lakers
7:30 PM -- Charlotte vs. Denver

Friday July 20
• COX Pavilion
1 PM -- New York vs. Cleveland
3 PM -- Denver vs. Portland
5 PM -- Miami vs. San Antonio
7 PM -- NBA D-League vs. Phoenix

• Thomas & Mack
3:30 PM -- Memphis vs. Charlotte
5:30 PM -- Chicago vs. Golden State
7:30 PM -- Dallas vs. New Orleans

Saturday July 21
• COX Pavilion
1 PM -- Portland vs. Miami
3 PM -- Dallas vs. San Antonio
5 PM -- NBA D-League vs. Minnesota
7 PM -- Memphis vs. Phoenix

• Thomas & Mack
3:30 PM -- Golden State vs. New Orleans
5:30 PM -- Chicago vs. LA Clippers
7:30 PM -- Milwaukee vs. Boston

Sunday July 22
• COX Pavilion
1 PM -- Chicago vs. Milwaukee
3 PM -- Boston vs. LA Clippers
5 PM -- Memphis vs. Minnesota

• SCHEDULE SUBJECT TO CHANGE
• All Times listed are PACIFIC

Dragic13 · Post #11 » by **Dragic13** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 7:29 pm

GrantHill wrote:Gordon already signed with the Maverick's Summer League Team.

Coro mentioned that Dowdell might make a comeback.

Zabian is only a year younger than Telfair. I like the guy but we should be keeping our eye on some younger prospects.

I mean if we are going to invite Zabian we might as well send Telfair. They are roughly the same player and same age. I know we wouldnt but you get the point....We already have "that" guy.

Spying younger talent is the way to go.

Dragic13 · Post #12 » by **Dragic13** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 7:31 pm

Grizzlies:
Cameron Tatum has known since Wednesday that he'll don a Memphis Grizzlies jersey in the 2012 NBA Summer League in Las Vegas.
Matt Janning and Courtney Sims will play for the Memphis Grizzlies in Vegas Summer League.

Bucks:
Jordan Taylor is leaning toward accepting an offer to play on the Milwaukee Bucks’ Summer League team in Las Vegas next month.

Cavaliers:
The Cavaliers will probably invite more and more players as Summer League gets closer, but so far they have invited Kevin Jones and Rob Jones (not related) to join them (and me) in Las Vegas.

Pacers:
Reggie Hamilton Will leave for Orlando in the middle of next week and hope to impress Indiana — or another team watching — enough to make their roster for the fall.
Pacers also invite:
Ndaiye
Kramer

Magic:
South Dakota guard Charlie Westbrook said Friday he accepted an invitation to play for the Orlando Magic NBA Summer League team this summer.
Undrafted guard Maalik Wayns will play for the Orlando Magic's summer league team.

Pistons:
Casper Ware, Yancy Gates, Armon Johnson will be on ‪Pistons‬ summer league roster in Orlando.

Nets:
Ashton Gibbs, who wasn’t selected in Thursday’s NBA Draft, said he received an offer to play for the Brooklyn Nets’ summer league team but is mulling other opportunities.
Edwin Ubiles and Al Thornton will play the Summer League in Orlando with the Brooklyn Nets.

Warriors:
Wendell Mckines will play for the Golden State Warriors' summer league team.
Andre Smith (played at North Dakota State / leading scorer in Italy last year) will be playing summer league with the Golden State Warriors.

Heat:
Undrafted guard J'Covan Brown will play for the Miami Heat's summer league team.
Robert Dozier will play for the Miami Heat's summer league team

Sixers:
Clay Tucker and Devin Searcy are expected to join Xavier Silas on the Sixers roster.

Lakers:
Wichita State guard Toure Murray will play for the Lakers in Vegas.
Greg Somogyi and Australian forward Julian Khazzouh are both expected to play with the Lakers in Vegas.

Jazz:
Trey Johnson will be playing with the Utah Jazz in Summer League.

Kings:
Willie Reed will play for the Sacramento Kings' summer league team.

Bulls:
Demetri McCamey will play with the Chicago Bulls' summer league team.

Knicks:
Belgian League MVP Chris Copeland will play for the Knicks in the Vegas Summer League.
Jerome Jordan and Josh Harrellson are expected to be on the Knicks' Summer League roster.
Undrafted guard Chris Smith will play for the New York Knicks' summer league team

Portland:
Marcus Lewis will be playing for the Portland Trail Blazers in Vegas Summer League.

Hawks:
Brad Wanamaker will play for the Atlanta Hawks' summer league team.
Derrick Caracter will play for the Atlanta Hawks' summer league team.

Dragic13 · Post #13 » by **Dragic13** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 7:59 pm

Matt Gatens will go to Vegas with the Phoenix Suns.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... att-gatens

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvqO-xEVldI[/youtube]

Matt Howard will play the NBA Summer League in Las Vegas with the Phoenix Suns. Howard has spent his rookie season in Europe with Olympiacos and EnBW Ludwigsburg with whom he has scored 12.1ppg, grabbing 5.8rpg and dishing 2.2apg in 13 games in Bundesliga Sportando

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DcUyDAnxfU[/youtube]

Diante Garrett, the son of former Bucks guard Dick Garrett who finished last season playing in France, will be playing for Phoenix in the NBA Summer League in Las Vegas.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Dia ... rett-5775/

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72gyWcKBeMA[/youtube]

Dragic13 · Post #14 » by **Dragic13** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:24 pm

What our Roster could look like based on what we know atm:

Kendall Marshall/Diante Garrett
Matt Gatens/?
Josh Childress/?
Markieff Morris/Matt Howard
Robin Lopez/?

How does this team do against other projected rosters? note: We will not be playing any of these teams.

SuperReggie31 wrote:
Rosters

INDIANA PACERS

Lance Stephenson
Jeff Pendergraph
Miles Plumlee
Paul George (?)
Orlando Johnson
Matt Janning
Chris Kramer
Reggie Hamilton
Hamady Ndiaye

ORLANDO MAGIC

Andrew Nicholson
Kyle O' Quinn
Justin Harper
DeAndre Liggins
Charlie Westbrook
Maalik Wayns

OKC THUNDER

Cole Aldrich
Reggie Jackson
Lazar Hayward
Perry Jones III

UTAH JAZZ

Kevin Murphy
Alec Burks
Derrick Favors
Enes Kanter
Jeremy Evans
Gordon Hayward (?)
Trey Johnson

BROOKLYN NETS

Marshon Brooks
Jordan Williams
Tyshawn Taylor
Damion James
Armon Johnson
Edwin Ubiles
Adam Morrison (yes, THAT Adam Morrison)
Julian Wright
Taurean Green
Jeff Foote
Ashton Gibbs
Yancy Gates
Al Thorton

BOSTON CELTICS

Etwaun Moore
JaJuan Johnson
Fab Melo
Jared Sullinger
Greg Steisma
Othello Hunter
Jamar Smith
Dionte Christmas
Johnathan Gibson
Sean Williams

DETROIT PISTONS

Andre Drummond
Brandon Knight
Vernon Macklin
Khris Middleton
Walker Russell
Kim English
Austin Daye
Kyle Singler
Casper Ware

Philadelphia 76ers

Evan Turner
Arnett Moultrie
Mo Harkless
Craig Brackins
Lavoy Allen
Xavier Silas
Nikola Vucevic
Clay Tucker
Devin Searcy

Again, these rosters are only temporary until the official ones come out. This is a sense of what the teams will look like.

DRK · Post #15 » by **DRK** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 2:57 am

Renardo Sidney would be a good addition. Once a damn good prospect, DAMN he's fallen off the face of the Earth. Would be worth a look.

charley barkles · Post #16 » by **charley barkles** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 3:28 am

Dragic13 wrote:What our Roster could look like based on what we know atm:

Kendall Marshall/Diante Garrett
Matt Gatens/?
Josh Childress/?
Markieff Morris/Matt Howard
Robin Lopez/?

No way Childress plays in the summer league. I'd be absolutely shocked if Lopez did too.

Post #17 » by **TASTIC** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 3:50 am

Yeah Lopez won't and Chill definitely won't

Get Sean Williams out here. Scottie Reynolds...Matt Janning again?

JohnVancouver · Post #18 » by **JohnVancouver** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 9:24 pm

Dragic13 wrote:Derrick Caracter will play for the Atlanta Hawks' summer league team.

LA released him?

YouTube · Post #19 » by **Kerrsed** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 5:13 am

Jonathan Feigen: Some interesting names lined up for Rockets summer team, besides, you know 1/2 the actual tm: Scott Machado, Zoran Dragic, Dionte Christmas. via Twitter

I hate Houston. I really do. :evil:

DRK · Post #20 » by **DRK** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 10:44 am

Kerrsed wrote:
Jonathan Feigen: Some interesting names lined up for Rockets summer team, besides, you know 1/2 the actual tm: Scott Machado, Zoran Dragic, Dionte Christmas. via Twitter

I hate Houston. I really do.

**** me sideways.

The Rockets keep pissing on us.