OT: important medical mj information for Arizona residents

[mybloodisorange]

Hey guys I just wanted everyone to know that I am a medical marijuana advocate as well a liscensed grower. Over the past 2 years there has been alot of pressure applied by antipot groups to slow or stop the process but the good news is that phase is now over. About 2 weeks ago the state held the official lottery to see who gets to open a dispensory; keep in mind im not talking about your stoner uncle - you need $150k in startup capitol as well as a solid buisiness plan to even get into the lottery.

At this point you may be asking yourself "why is this fellow suns fan going on and on about medical mj"?

There is indeed a very specific and inportant reason that I created this thread. I wanted to educate people to the fact that in about 60-90 days dispensories will start to open across the state. The reason this is important is because when you get approved for a medical mj liscense you can also receive a cultivation liscense for 12 plants at no extra charge. Once a dispensory is put up within 25 miles of your residence you can no longer legally grow your own medicine. However there is a minor loophole. As long as you have your liscense issued BEFORE the dispensory opens its doors you can legally continue to grow until your annual card runs out. So there are many people next month going through and renewing early because of this.

Just so im clear on this, everything im discussing is 100% legal. In Arizona you are legally allowed to sell your excess medicine to dispensories or caregiver collectives as long as it passes an a quality inspection (there is a company that does it) and they pay you about $175 per oz.

If you know your stuff and use the right strains you can get upwards of a pound per plant. Which comes out to about 30k per harvest not counting overhead or your own use. A typical grower can get 3 harvests in per year. If anyone needs any information regarding this issue I have it please dont hesitate to ask. Time is of the essence.

[navysully]

Came here for Michael Jordan. Was disappointed.

[lilfishi22]

Came here for Michael Jordan. Was disappointed.

LOL

[mybloodisorange]

I'm not even high and that made me laugh, thank you.

[EB2]

I love me some weed (medical of course ).

[mybloodisorange]

Did you read my post Beas? If you havent got your card yet now is the time else you lose out on the cultivation loophole.

If you dont know a good doc dont just pick one off the internet I know a doc that is really good. She did the evaluation on my friend and works with Dr. Peachy who did my mothers eval. Her name is Dr. Burns believe it or not and no I am not making that up. I couldnt believe it either at first lol.

Just remember when you do your evaluation make sure you check yes for the box that says 'cultivation'. I know it sounds obvious but they only ask once and its just one little box so make sure not to skip it.

One week later you get a lamenated green ID card with your picture (a liscense to burn) and your in business.

[mybloodisorange]

http://www.weedmaps.comThis website is like a weed locator but even better. Just put in your zip code and find the nearest collective. Also can be used to determine if there are any dispensories within 25 miles which is also useful because of how the law is worded. And the best part is when you click on the dispensory or caregiver collective, it also shows you which weed they have in stock at that moment, the thc and cbd levels, all the details its great!

Check out my collective it is completely pro-its called Elements (Cavecreek&cactus). They even have a full kitchen in the back and have a 5 star chef they employ cook all their edibles. On cinco de mayo he had guacamole and salsa very cool stuff. So for example if I need some medicine I go and check then order by phone. They even take credit cards and deliver. Welcome to the future.

Crazy thing that isnt even the best part. Once you have a cultivation liscense and get your first harvest in, from that point in you will never have to pay for your medicine again. And you are legally allowed to sell your excess back to the collective for the other members consumption. And the answer to your next question is online seebanks. There about 30,000 currently on the internet but id recommend going with one of the big guys like Herbies.

And yes I did go to weed college.

[DirtyDez]

I smoked a lot in HS but started getting tested for my work. I've heard it's 10x worse on your lungs than cigs though. Seems like the brownies/tea thing is a way better option for people who really need it.

[LukasBMW]

Interesting thread.

So assuming I legally did 3 harvests a year I could earn up to $90,000.00 a year from just selling my excess medicine? Sounds awesome!

But what about the feds?

Aren't all the dispensaries in California under attack from the federal government? I know a bunch of dispensaries in San Diego were raided and shut down by DEA agents last spring. Now most of the dispensaries in San Diego are "delivery service" only (and have no physical business address).

Additionally, what do you do about taxes? Aren't the feds attacking this problem through the IRS as well? If you document on your tax returns that you earn income because you are selling marijuana (even for medical purposes) in addition to admitting that you are selling marijuana and earning income from it (which would absolutely screw you in federal court) isn't it true that the IRS will not allow you to deduct ANY expenses? So if you claim $90,000.00 in income and have expenses of $30,000.00, then instead of being taxed on the $60,000.00 profit like a normal business, the government taxes you on the $90,000.00 figure.

Of course I guess you could try not to claim the money at all, but I'd bet that the dispensaries you sell to WILL issue you a 1099. That means if you don't pay taxes at all, you will still have IRS problems.

I support medical marijuana, and I'm very interested in this thread, but I am curious to see how you respond to these questions. A good friend owned a dispensary in California and made a ton of money. However he shut everything down due to the pressure from the DEA and IRS.

[mybloodisorange]

Also dont forget California garners alot of attention because they are a liberal bastion and they passed the law first. Add to that the outspoken social activism of the Oaksterdam type operations and the fact that many dispensories in CA werent adhering to the law. Basically the greedy ones who are over reaching are brigning this down on them.

As my friend who is a lawyer likes to say. If a law isnt enforced and you keep a low profile you will never have a problem. They dont care about 1 person growing his own medicine in his spare bedroom trust me. A perfect example is the constitution says that the federal government is responsible for protecting our borders but they simply dont have the resources to do it. My point is simply that if you or I (no offense) will never be important enough to even register on the radar. Dont forget they have already issued tens of thousands of cultivation liscenses.

I'm not talking about owning or operating a dispensory. I'm simply talking about legally growing your own medicine and selling off your excess to the dispensories. Within 6 months there will be over 90 dispensories in the state and every one of them will rely on people like us to provide medicine.

[mybloodisorange]

Here is all the info directly from the state.

http://www.azdhs.gov/medicalmarijuana/faqs/dispensaries.htm

•A dispensary can acquire marijuana from other registered nonprofit dispensaries or from a registered qualifying patient or designated caregiver if the patient or caregiver is not compensated for the marijuana.

^The last part is the important part. And yes acquire also means purchase I already double checked; cant be too safe with the wording. I dont want anyone to take my word on things this important thats why im happy to provide links to this stuff.

As far as how you want to handle your taxes that is completely up to you. I'm sure any lawyer or tax attorney can help you with that but I dont want to give any advice in that area over the internet if you know what I mean. I'm just here to spread info not to piss off the IRS lol.

[SILERtheDEFILER]

Hey I was actually going to do this but I was told I would have to move 25 miles away from the nearest dispensary. If I could have a full year to grow before moving that would make this all possible again. I also thought that you have to register at a police station? Thanks for all the info, I tried to message you but couldnt for some reason. If you could give me some more directions on what steps I should take after contacting this Burns woman I would be so grateful. THANKS

[mybloodisorange]

Yes Siler thats exactly what it means. I am curious where you heard that you have to register with the police; I have honestly never heard of such a law or regulation. Can you find out where you heard that so I can fact/source check it?

So bottom line is get approved before a dispensory opens its doors within 25 miles of your residence. You can legally grow until you come up for renewell. Just call Dr. Burns and get your eval out of the way; if you put it off too long and a shop pops up within the 25 radius you legally forfeit the right to grow mj for a full year. Getting that card is the most important step and dont forget to check the box labeled CULTIVATION... I cannot stress that enough.

http://www.evaluationtoday.com/
Take your time and go over the site. This is a real medical evaluation so make sure you understand the perameters of what medical mj can be used for. Like muscle spasms or chronic pain for example. I lucked out since I have epilepsy mine was a no brainer. I have gran mal seizures a couple times a year.

[mybloodisorange]

Once you have that set up just start watching youtube how to videos on grow room planning and construction. Most people I know grow using coconut husk as a medium.

Heres some good info for after you get the card. Don't be impatient there is a learning curve but this is the best tutorial that exists. This one video can turn a novice into a master (assuming he isnt lazy or stupid); they pretty much hit on every area.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxV7n8vz7rk&feature=related[/youtube]

My favorite bank-use the search field on the left & put in indoor and check out the options. They have awesome selection and very good prices (not to mention track record). Click on each strain as you search to get more specific info like flowering time, average yield, type of medicinal effect and more.
http://www.herbiesheadshop.com/

[SILERtheDEFILER]

http://azgreencaregivers.com/ is the site I heard all my info from but it appears they stopped paying for the domain or something.

That was the website I was at back in february of last year where I heard I had to register at the police station. The guy who ran it said I couldnt grow within 25 miles even within the first year. So I think that he just had his sources wrong.

Thanks so much for all the info, I'll definitely be contacting you when I have some more questions.

[mybloodisorange]

Ya the guy had his facts wrong on the law and now the site is gone. There are a lot of bs'ers out there im sure he was talkin out his butt. Let me know what you think of the video or herbies once you have time to chek them out.

I am still going to talk to my contacts regarding that to see what they think or if they have ever heard of such a law; it never hurts to be safe.

[LukasBMW]

Making an easy $90,000.00 a year sounds great to me.

That said, you never really addressed my question about the FEDS (DEA and IRS).

If you get a 1099 for selling your extra medicine. The IRS KNOWS you had income. Therefore you have to report it. Report the income, or the IRS comes knocking.

If you don't get a 1099, and you get income from your extra medicine and don't report it, then you are committing TAX EVASION.

So, you can either commit tax evasion and not claim any money received from the sale of your medicine or you can file a federal IRS form telling the federal goverment just how much you made selling marijuana (which is still a federally controlled substance).

Technically, the DEA could arrest you on a street corner, throw you in a call, and show the court your federal tax returns where you claimed $90,000.00 from selling medicine for $175 an ounce. "That means (ladies and gentleman of the jury) that over a 12 month peroid, the defendant admits on a FEDERAL DOCUMENT that he sold over 514 ounces (32 pounds) of marijuana." With your tax returns on file they don't even have to catch you with one SEED! They can just throw your own tax returns back in your face.

Again, I support medical marijuana, but until the federal goverment stops its internal war on marijuana, then this is something you don't want to touch. My buddy wouldn't have walked away from making millions (seriously) of dollars selling medical marijuana if the DEA/IRS wasn't an issue.

[EB2]

Did you read my post Beas? If you havent got your card yet now is the time else you lose out on the cultivation loophole.

If you dont know a good doc dont just pick one off the internet I know a doc that is really good. She did the evaluation on my friend and works with Dr. Peachy who did my mothers eval. Her name is Dr. Burns believe it or not and no I am not making that up. I couldnt believe it either at first lol.

Just remember when you do your evaluation make sure you check yes for the box that says 'cultivation'. I know it sounds obvious but they only ask once and its just one little box so make sure not to skip it.

One week later you get a lamenated green ID card with your picture (a liscense to burn) and your in business.

I don't live around that area, but I just wanted to chime in because I love the greens.

[mybloodisorange]

This website has all the info you could ever need as far as the law.

Regardng growing-http://www.azdhs.gov/medicalmarijuana/faqs/cultivation.htm

And you can see the other links at the top for the same info on dispensories, person use etc. All the legal info on 1 site.

[SILERtheDEFILER]

Is Dr. Burns at the north Phoenix or Scottsdale location?