Game 22: Orlando Magic ( 7-12) @ Phoenix Suns (7-14)

SunsRback4Good · Post #1 » by **SunsRback4Good** » Sun Dec 9, 2012 6:10 pm

Who: Orlando Magic @ Phoenix Suns

When: Tonight, 8:00pm ET ( 6:00pm PT)

Where: US Airways Center, Phoenix, AZ

Orlando Magic starting lineups:

C- Vucevic
Pf- Davis
Sf- Harkless
Sg- Afflalo
Pg- Nelson

Reserves: Reddick/Moore/Ayon/Jones/Nicholson

Phoenix Suns starting lineups:

C- Gortat
Pf- Morris
Sf- Dudley
Sg- Brown
Pg- Dragic

Reserves: Scola/Beasley/Telfair/Oneal/Tucker

Post #2 » by **TASTIC** » Sun Dec 9, 2012 6:40 pm

I think the sad thing is that's probably our 'best' lineup...and it still sucks

I hate watching this team right now...just...awful...

Post #3 » by **rsavaj** » Sun Dec 9, 2012 6:57 pm

We haven't lost 7 straight since the 03/04 season.

Soon thereafter, we traded Penny and Steph and then signed some scrub the next offseason...

GrantHill · Post #4 » by **GrantHill** » Sun Dec 9, 2012 6:59 pm

rsavaj wrote:Soon thereafter, we traded Penny and Steph and then signed some scrub the next offseason...

Come on, Q-Rich was pretty good that year.

Post #5 » by **ATTL** » Sun Dec 9, 2012 7:21 pm

Jim Jackson was pretty good for us too.

SunsRback4Good · Post #6 » by **SunsRback4Good** » Sun Dec 9, 2012 7:39 pm

So was Barbosa

SunsRback4Good · Post #7 » by **SunsRback4Good** » Sun Dec 9, 2012 7:40 pm

I'm hoping this is like the 02-03 version and in a year or so we get some all-stars and turn this team around. But Sarver is our owner so I doubt that happens.

GrantHill · Post #8 » by **GrantHill** » Sun Dec 9, 2012 7:40 pm

Barbosa was already in Phoenix when we brought in Richardson and Jackson.

Post #9 » by **ATTL** » Sun Dec 9, 2012 8:50 pm

And he was pretty bad until 05-06. Seemed like he lacked confidence, similar to joe while penny was here.

Moochthemonkey · Post #10 » by **Moochthemonkey** » Sun Dec 9, 2012 11:05 pm

DragicTime85 wrote:I'm hoping this is like the 02-03 version and in a year or so we get some all-stars and turn this team around. But Sarver is our owner so I doubt that happens.

Your post is misleading

it was the 03-04 team that had a bad record, if that's what you meant
Robert Sarver bought the team during that season
Joe Johnson, Amare Stoudemire, and Shawn Marion were already on the team
We went on to get a borderline all star that offseason...

In fact as a starter Dragic was statistically more or less just as good as Nash in his season with Dallas prior to signing him...

Nash: 14.5 PPG/8.8 APG/2.7 TO/3.0 RPG/0.9 SPG
Dragic:18.0 PPG/8.0 APG/3.1 TO/3.5 RPG/2.1 SPG

As much as the Suns invested in player development in the offseason I have been unimpressed so far.
I've never been on the fire Gentry bandwagon, but maybe he needs to go.
Johnson and Marshall need to see playing time, even though that means less or no P/T for Brown, Tucker, and Telfair. And the last two players deserve to see minutes for their hustle on the court.
I haven't totally given up on SuperSleepyBleas and Co. just yet, I see this as a 3 year improvement process, not something they need to get together instantly. Just because he's a few years under 20 and has played 4 years now doesn't mean he's too old too significantly improve.

SunsRback4Good · Post #11 » by **SunsRback4Good** » Sun Dec 9, 2012 11:11 pm

Moochthemonkey wrote:
DragicTime85 wrote:I'm hoping this is like the 02-03 version and in a year or so we get some all-stars and turn this team around. But Sarver is our owner so I doubt that happens.

Your post is misleading

it was the 03-04 team that had a bad record, if that's what you meant
Robert Sarver bought the team during that season
Joe Johnson, Amare Stoudemire, and Shawn Marion were already on the team
We went on to get a borderline all star that offseason...

In fact as a starter Dragic was statistically more or less just as good as Nash in his season with Dallas prior to signing him...

Nash: 14.5 PPG/8.8 APG/2.7 TO/3.0 RPG/0.9 SPG
Dragic:18.0 PPG/8.0 APG/3.1 TO/3.5 RPG/2.1 SPG

As much as the Suns invested in player development in the offseason I have been unimpressed so far.
I've never been on the fire Gentry bandwagon, but maybe he needs to go.
Johnson and Marshall need to see playing time, even though that means less or no P/T for Brown, Tucker, and Telfair. And the last two players deserve to see minutes for their hustle on the court.
I haven't totally given up on SuperSleepyBleas and Co. just yet, I see this as a 3 year improvement process, not something they need to get together instantly. Just because he's a few years under 20 and has played 4 years now doesn't mean he's too old too significantly improve.

Yeah, my bad. I meant the 03-04 Suns. Thank you

sunsdragic · Post #12 » by **sunsdragic** » Sun Dec 9, 2012 11:11 pm

lead early, gentry messes the rooster on 4th.
But I think this game will be winnable.

Hope dragic doesn't get owned by Reddick clutching from 3s.

Post #13 » by **ATTL** » Sun Dec 9, 2012 11:30 pm

bad luck picture

raczej1980 · Post #14 » by **raczej1980** » Sun Dec 9, 2012 11:35 pm

ATTL wrote:

bad luck picture

you just made my day:)))))) and it's already Monday for me:)

Post #15 » by **ATTL** » Sun Dec 9, 2012 11:40 pm

raczej1980 wrote:
ATTL wrote:

bad luck picture

you just made my day:)))))) and it's already Monday for me:)

I have a bunch, trying to spread them out over game threads to increase this losing streak

SunsRback4Good · Post #16 » by **SunsRback4Good** » Sun Dec 9, 2012 11:57 pm

ATTL wrote:

bad luck picture

YUMMMMM, especially the one on the right. Id hit it any day of the week.

Frank Lee · Post #17 » by **Frank Lee** » Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:10 am

Vegas says
Phnx by 4
O/U.... 198 1/2

SunsRback4Good · Post #18 » by **SunsRback4Good** » Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:31 am

Frank Lee wrote:Vegas says
Phnx by 4
O/U.... 198 1/2

On AzRepuclic sports section, Suns are 4 1/2 point favorites I believe reading it this morning.

sunsdragic · Post #19 » by **sunsdragic** » Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:45 am

15 mins..

sunsdragic · Post #20 » by **sunsdragic** » Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:02 am

taking about beasley hehe