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Frank Lee wrote:You guys with your drool cups focussing on the 2014 lotto exemplify the 'quick fix'. Putting all in for one or two touted 'the next LeBron' teenagers is your path to contention ? Thats the all mighty rebuild ? Come on.


I'll take a good draft pick, a solid Free Agent , and a sneaky good trade this yr and roll with that. There is no shame in making the playoffs. And nuts to you all who do not think that a team does not have a chance if they are the 6th, 7th, or 8th seed. Go check your history book and look up 1976.

example of part 2 rebuild for my liking....

Sign Iguodala
trade for a signed Aminu*
draft Oladipo
Sign ONeal

* three way deal....
theG + #30 to ATL for #18 and #20
Scola + #20 to NO for Aminu
#18 + Aminu to PHX For theG + Scola + #30

Draft Whithey or Dieng with #18

Dragic / Marshall
Olapido / Dudley
Iggy / Tucker / Mo2 / Measley
Aminu / Frye / Mo1
Oneal / Dieng or Withey

Then hire Jerry Sloan


Now go ahead and tell me we will be better off tanking for a big F-n may be top pick.

Questions arise as Phoenix Suns’ Lon Babby’s contract nears the end
By Scott Bordow, columnistazcentral sports

A couple of weeks ago we asked Lon Babby, the Suns’ president of basketball operations, about the future of coach Lindsey Hunter.

We knew his answer even before we asked the question:

“We said all along we’re going to wait until the end of the year to assess the full body of work, and that’s what we’re going to do,” Babby replied. “There have been positives, but you’re not going to trick me into answering your question. I’m not going to give an interim report on the interim coach.”

Fair enough. But it’s what Babby didn’t say — or couldn’t say — that intrigues us. Will he be around to make the call on Hunter?

As hard as this is to believe, who coaches the Suns next season isn’t as important as who’s making the basketball decisions. Phoenix isn’t going to be a playoff contender in 2013-14, and its championship hopes are years away. What’s paramount is that the right people are building the team, so whoever’s the coach has a fighting chance down the road.

(Say amen, Alvin Gentry.)

Babby is in the final year of his contract. General Manager Lance Blanks has a year remaining after this season. The question owner Robert Sarver has to ask himself is this: Does he trust the two of them to run his franchise?

If Babby and Blanks stay, then Hunter almost assuredly will remain as coach, with the interim tag removed. But if Sarver cleans house, it’s hard to imagine a new GM retaining Hunter. It’s not as if Hunter has been a miracle worker and accomplished something Gentry couldn’t.

As to what Sarver is thinking, who knows? He hasn’t been heard from since the coaching change. But he can’t be happy. The Suns will miss the playoffs for the third straight year, and they’re about to finish the second-worst regular season in franchise history. That’s not exactly what Sarver signed on for when he hired Babby in the summer of 2010.

Babby and Blanks can say with some justification that this is the first season they’ve truly put their stamp on the Suns. The past two years were about holding onto Steve Nash and Grant Hill in an attempt to remain competitive while rebuilding.

(Maybe they should have moved on sooner, but trading an icon such as Nash is never easy.)

The front office did make some astute moves during that time, most notably not giving Amar’e Stoudemire and his achy-breaky knees a max contract. Imagine how handcuffed the franchise would be today had the Suns given into Stoudemire’s demands.

For argument’s sake, however, let’s go ahead and judge Babby and Blanks on what they did this year. A couple of their decisions — signing P.J. Tucker and acquiring Wesley Johnson in the three-team deal involving Robin Lopez — have worked out.

But they also gave Michael Beasley $18 million and, in a move we still don’t understand, drafted point guard Kendall Marshall just a week before they reacquired Goran Dragic. Seems to us if you’re going to give Dragic $34 million and say he’s your starting point guard, you might want to go a different direction in the draft.

At best, Babby and Blanks have had mixed results. But if Sarver shoved them out the door, he’d essentially be admitting he made a mistake three years ago. Is he willing to do that?

Whatever decision Sarver makes likely will come soon after the season. Phoenix will have a high lottery pick in the June draft; it’s important the front office is in place long before that to evaluate talent, consider trades, etc.

Our advice for Sarver is simple: Make a phone call.

Hey, Phil Jackson, doing anything the next couple of years? If not, how’d you like to be in charge of our basketball operations?

Can’t hurt to ask.

Frank Lee wrote:
Dragic / Marshall
Olapido / Dudley
Iggy / Tucker / Mo2 / Measley
Aminu / Frye / Mo1
Oneal / Dieng or Withey

Then hire Jerry Sloan

Saberestar wrote:

Questions arise as Phoenix Suns’ Lon Babby’s contract nears the end
By Scott Bordow, columnistazcentral sports

A couple of weeks ago we asked Lon Babby, the Suns’ president of basketball operations, about the future of coach Lindsey Hunter.

We knew his answer even before we asked the question:

“We said all along we’re going to wait until the end of the year to assess the full body of work, and that’s what we’re going to do,” Babby replied. “There have been positives, but you’re not going to trick me into answering your question. I’m not going to give an interim report on the interim coach.”

Fair enough. But it’s what Babby didn’t say — or couldn’t say — that intrigues us. Will he be around to make the call on Hunter?

As hard as this is to believe, who coaches the Suns next season isn’t as important as who’s making the basketball decisions. Phoenix isn’t going to be a playoff contender in 2013-14, and its championship hopes are years away. What’s paramount is that the right people are building the team, so whoever’s the coach has a fighting chance down the road.

(Say amen, Alvin Gentry.)

Babby is in the final year of his contract. General Manager Lance Blanks has a year remaining after this season. The question owner Robert Sarver has to ask himself is this: Does he trust the two of them to run his franchise?

If Babby and Blanks stay, then Hunter almost assuredly will remain as coach, with the interim tag removed. But if Sarver cleans house, it’s hard to imagine a new GM retaining Hunter. It’s not as if Hunter has been a miracle worker and accomplished something Gentry couldn’t.

As to what Sarver is thinking, who knows? He hasn’t been heard from since the coaching change. But he can’t be happy. The Suns will miss the playoffs for the third straight year, and they’re about to finish the second-worst regular season in franchise history. That’s not exactly what Sarver signed on for when he hired Babby in the summer of 2010.

Babby and Blanks can say with some justification that this is the first season they’ve truly put their stamp on the Suns. The past two years were about holding onto Steve Nash and Grant Hill in an attempt to remain competitive while rebuilding.

(Maybe they should have moved on sooner, but trading an icon such as Nash is never easy.)

The front office did make some astute moves during that time, most notably not giving Amar’e Stoudemire and his achy-breaky knees a max contract. Imagine how handcuffed the franchise would be today had the Suns given into Stoudemire’s demands.

For argument’s sake, however, let’s go ahead and judge Babby and Blanks on what they did this year. A couple of their decisions — signing P.J. Tucker and acquiring Wesley Johnson in the three-team deal involving Robin Lopez — have worked out.

But they also gave Michael Beasley $18 million and, in a move we still don’t understand, drafted point guard Kendall Marshall just a week before they reacquired Goran Dragic. Seems to us if you’re going to give Dragic $34 million and say he’s your starting point guard, you might want to go a different direction in the draft.

At best, Babby and Blanks have had mixed results. But if Sarver shoved them out the door, he’d essentially be admitting he made a mistake three years ago. Is he willing to do that?

Whatever decision Sarver makes likely will come soon after the season. Phoenix will have a high lottery pick in the June draft; it’s important the front office is in place long before that to evaluate talent, consider trades, etc.

Our advice for Sarver is simple: Make a phone call.

Hey, Phil Jackson, doing anything the next couple of years? If not, how’d you like to be in charge of our basketball operations?

Can’t hurt to ask.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/heatind ... s-end.html

TruthTelling wrote:You can't be serious........

Frank Lee wrote:

TruthTelling wrote:You can't be serious........

Isn't being bad one of your objectives ?

You guys have no answers.... its always Wiggins wiggins wiggins

I lay out an example of how we are flexible, how we can go many different routes.

And yes, I agree about Sloan, if you cared to read my PS above you would save yourself making a point, but then you can't go #1 without a #2 right.

BTW, what is so bad about a team built on defense and athleticism ? Don't underrate Aminu as he is the type of player who is on the verge of being a stud night in and out. I guess there is no need for an 'Ibaka' type player here eh? Nor Iguodala, who might be the best wing available and w AZ ties. Yet you will bitch about a team who has one or two guys in their thirties ? You do realize LeBron is 28 and Wade is 31.

And how about we draft McLemore instead ? Or Dieng ? Or better yet...Whoever YOU suggest.... To fit the plan your plan of suck of another yr. WTFU, and see that will not be the route we take. Its not healthy. Efforts will be are to improve upon this yr. And BTW, there are other ways to get a top pick other than being a crap team.

So why don't you come up with something Truth ? Or is the lack of a creative original thought a Telling sign ? Seriously, as we approach the draft/off season you have to consider that we will very likely have 5 or 6 new faces here and there are multiple ways we can get them.

I am open to suggestions, but grow F-n tired of this same old 5h!t that we should tank. Be real, it isn't going to happen.... not intentionally anyway.

EricAnderson wrote:

Frank Lee wrote:

TruthTelling wrote:You can't be serious........

Isn't being bad one of your objectives ?

You guys have no answers.... its always Wiggins wiggins wiggins

I lay out an example of how we are flexible, how we can go many different routes.

And yes, I agree about Sloan, if you cared to read my PS above you would save yourself making a point, but then you can't go #1 without a #2 right.

BTW, what is so bad about a team built on defense and athleticism ? Don't underrate Aminu as he is the type of player who is on the verge of being a stud night in and out. I guess there is no need for an 'Ibaka' type player here eh? Nor Iguodala, who might be the best wing available and w AZ ties. Yet you will bitch about a team who has one or two guys in their thirties ? You do realize LeBron is 28 and Wade is 31.

And how about we draft McLemore instead ? Or Dieng ? Or better yet...Whoever YOU suggest.... To fit the plan your plan of suck of another yr. WTFU, and see that will not be the route we take. Its not healthy. Efforts will be are to improve upon this yr. And BTW, there are other ways to get a top pick other than being a crap team.

So why don't you come up with something Truth ? Or is the lack of a creative original thought a Telling sign ? Seriously, as we approach the draft/off season you have to consider that we will very likely have 5 or 6 new faces here and there are multiple ways we can get them.

I am open to suggestions, but grow F-n tired of this same old 5h!t that we should tank. Be real, it isn't going to happen.... not intentionally anyway.

.......Nobody is calling for a 15 year rebuild simply letting contracts expires play the young guys and let the chips fall where they may.......

JasonDaPsycho wrote:we should be learning from Sam Presti - draft two franchise players...