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Eric Gordon, Part Deux
Posted: Mon Apr 8, 2013 6:33 pm
by rsavaj
http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2013/ ... uld-pounceSo...what do you guys think?
I haven't made up my mind one way or the other.
Re: Eric Gordon, Part Deux
Posted: Mon Apr 8, 2013 6:39 pm
by gaspar
Bad knees, bad ankle, bad attitude, bad contract. No, thank you.
Re: Eric Gordon, Part Deux
Posted: Mon Apr 8, 2013 6:46 pm
by RunDogGun
It's tougher now. Last offseason it was a gamble, and they tried for a quick rebuild. After NOH matching, and the whiff on Beasley, it seems silly to cripple our cap for EG.
Many teams will be looking to make some moves to get under the cap, and we are in a position to get some good things by fascilitaing those deals. Everyone wants us to use the Seattle/OKC model, well that's how it started. They had good cap space, raped us in the KT deal, and had a bad season where they would have picked fourth or fifth (I don't remember), got the second pick, and lucked out that Portland took Oden. I doubt we will be that lucky, but we are in the best position to follow that model, if we don't throw a max (or trade for one) at someone not named Howard.
Re: Eric Gordon, Part Deux
Posted: Mon Apr 8, 2013 6:47 pm
by Kerrsed
gaspar wrote:Bad knees, bad ankle, bad attitude, bad contract. No, thank you.
Re: Eric Gordon, Part Deux
Posted: Mon Apr 8, 2013 7:05 pm
by RunSunRun
New Orleans matching Eric Gordon was the best thing to happen to the Suns future, saved us from taking on a mediocre player on a terrible contract. We better not blow it by trading for him.
Re: Eric Gordon, Part Deux
Posted: Mon Apr 8, 2013 7:51 pm
by Sun Scorched
I like Gordon and think he would be a great running buddy next to Dragic, but I personally don't want to give up assets now. It made sense when we could sign him outright. It doesn't make sense to give up assets in order to absorb his contract.
And by assets I mean Dragic, Scola, Dudley, Gortat, picks, cash, Tucker.
If they want Frye, Beasley, Morris^2, Brown, Marshall, Johnson, etc., I'm fine with that.
Re: Eric Gordon, Part Deux
Posted: Mon Apr 8, 2013 8:10 pm
by ATF
Im open to it. Depends on what they want of course.
Re: Eric Gordon, Part Deux
Posted: Mon Apr 8, 2013 10:26 pm
by ATTL
Do not want.
Did not want.
Will not want.
Undersized shooting guard and he hasn't played near a full season in how long? Take a shooting guard in the draft and be done with it.
Re: Eric Gordon, Part Deux
Posted: Mon Apr 8, 2013 11:03 pm
by LukasBMW
Kerrsed wrote:gaspar wrote:Bad knees, bad ankle, bad attitude, bad contract. No, thank you.
THIS. /thread
Re: Eric Gordon, Part Deux
Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2013 12:30 am
by snowthedirtbub
I don't want to get people too excited but when we signed EG last season I made a team in NBA 2k11 of Dragic/Gordon/Dudley/Beasley/Gortat and I won the championship on pro.
Unless we get Noel, chances are were picking a SG in top 5, seems a bit redundant.
Re: Eric Gordon, Part Deux
Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2013 1:45 am
by phrazbit
snowthedirtbub wrote:
Unless we get Noel, chances are were picking a SG in top 5, seems a bit redundant.
Nah, because Gordon will probably miss 65 games. We would still need a SG.
Re: Eric Gordon, Part Deux
Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2013 7:25 am
by DirtyDez
Non-playoff team over the cap? Nah thanks I'm good...
Re: Eric Gordon, Part Deux
Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2013 7:49 am
by phrazbit
This would be akin to escaping a burning building... then dousing yourself in gasoline and running back inside.
Re: Eric Gordon, Part Deux
Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2013 1:00 pm
by TruthTelling
not even straight up for Beasley
Re: Eric Gordon, Part Deux
Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2013 2:09 pm
by TruthTelling
Reasons against Gordon?
- 6'3 SG
- always injured
- suspect defense
- suspect efficiency
- poor character
- extremely overpaid
- never contributed to a team that was not one of the worst in the NBA
- no star appeal
Re: Eric Gordon, Part Deux
Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2013 7:45 pm
by jcsunsfan
snowthedirtbub wrote:I don't want to get people too excited but when we signed EG last season I made a team in NBA 2k11 of Dragic/Gordon/Dudley/Beasley/Gortat and I won the championship on pro.
Unless we get Noel, chances are were picking a SG in top 5, seems a bit redundant.
Too late. We're all excited now. Gotta get him. Guaranteed 'ship.
Re: Eric Gordon, Part Deux
Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2013 9:26 pm
by ATF
EJ (Eric Jr.) is really an NFL Runningback. He's 6'3" 215 and cuts on the dime like Adrian Peterson. I mean come on. He's that star at the end of games everybody keeps talking about and they don't grow on trees.
We have the best training staff in the league, their talent is being wasted on scrubs.
Re: Eric Gordon, Part Deux
Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2013 10:35 pm
by phrazbit
ATF wrote:EJ (Eric Jr.) is really an NFL Runningback. He's 6'3" 215 and cuts on the dime like Adrian Peterson. I mean come on. He's that star at the end of games everybody keeps talking about and they don't grow on trees.
We have the best training staff in the league, their talent is being wasted on scrubs.
End of what games? The perception is skewed because he beat the Suns on a big shot... I have a hard time buying that a guy who has spent his entire career on 25 win teams is a secretly forth quarter star.
Re: Eric Gordon, Part Deux
Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2013 11:56 pm
by ATF
phrazbit wrote:End of what games? The perception is skewed because he beat the Suns on a big shot... I have a hard time buying that a guy who has spent his entire career on 25 win teams is a secretly forth quarter star.
http://www.hickory-high.com/?p=2144-Gordon’s clutch TS% of 72.5% was almost 20 points higher than his average for the full season. I have mental list of guys I’d like to take a final shot, and Gordon just jumped up quite a few spots.
That outlandish 72% puts him way ahead of Guys like: Nowitzki, LeBron, Kobe, Durant, Paul Pierce and Melo, among others.
He's been/is on bad teams. You have to be close in the fourth to have a chance. And he's still coming into his own, which is scary.
Re: Eric Gordon, Part Deux
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:26 am
by phrazbit
ATF wrote:phrazbit wrote:End of what games? The perception is skewed because he beat the Suns on a big shot... I have a hard time buying that a guy who has spent his entire career on 25 win teams is a secretly forth quarter star.
http://www.hickory-high.com/?p=2144-Gordon’s clutch TS% of 72.5% was almost 20 points higher than his average for the full season. I have mental list of guys I’d like to take a final shot, and Gordon just jumped up quite a few spots.
That outlandish 72% puts him way ahead of Guys like: Nowitzki, LeBron, Kobe, Durant, Paul Pierce and Melo, among others.
He's been/is on bad teams. You have to be close in the fourth to have a chance. And he's still coming into his own, which is scary.
No, its not scary, what is scary is his injury history. The thought that a guy ending his 5th year in the league is "coming into his own" is silly... not scary.
And you're using a small sample size from 3 years ago... and a season in which his brilliant "clutch" play resulted in 29 wins for his team.
Eric Gordon... extremely overpaid... extremely injury prone... headcase... selfish... empty stat... loser.