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The amazing Goran's All-Star chances
Posted: Thu Jan 9, 2014 10:03 am
by phrazbit
About a month ago it looked like Goron, no matter how well he played, would have almost no hope of making the all-star team. But since then he has had probably the best run of his career and several Western all-star caliber guards have gone down with injuries.
Kobe, Westbrook and Paul are all either confirmed or probably out, Goran also no longer faces competition for the selection from Bledsoe after Eric's recent injuries. That leaves:
Harden (lock)
Curry (lock)
Parker (lock)
Lillard
Lawson
Ellis
Thompson
Conley
Of the guys I dont think are locks the only one I think will most likely get selected over Goran is Lillard. If the West takes 5 or 6 guards then I like Goran's chances, but if Paul comes back early then Goran is probably screwed.
I gotta say, all the people who were comparing Goran's potential role on this team to Manu before the year... kudos. He has displayed a level of craftiness that is very Manu-esque, playing a whole lot like Manu in his prime, except not quite as good from the outside but more dangerous in transition.
Re: The amazing Goran's All-Star chances
Posted: Thu Jan 9, 2014 10:19 am
by Ring_Wanted
Lillard should be a lock too. The Blazers are rolling harder than us and he is playing outstanding ball.
Goran should come before the rest on that list, tho.
Re: The amazing Goran's All-Star chances
Posted: Thu Jan 9, 2014 11:00 am
by Revived
Lillard, like mentioned above, is a lock as well.
It sucks that they are going away from the positional votes for the All Star game. Dragic played SG for much of this season and considering that Harden is the only SG better than Dragic in the West, he would have got in easily if they had kept the old system.
Re: The amazing Goran's All-Star chances
Posted: Thu Jan 9, 2014 11:25 am
by Ring_Wanted
Now that you mention it, yeah, Goran's best chance is to be considered a SG.
Re: The amazing Goran's All-Star chances
Posted: Thu Jan 9, 2014 12:18 pm
by Qwigglez
Goran is putting up better numbers than Parker...
Re: The amazing Goran's All-Star chances
Posted: Thu Jan 9, 2014 1:20 pm
by Maystack
Yeah I don't see how Parker is a lock this season. I think the Suns' surprising record will also hold a lot of sway for Dragic to be selected by the coaches.
Re: The amazing Goran's All-Star chances
Posted: Thu Jan 9, 2014 1:45 pm
by Ring_Wanted
Are we sure Dragic's numbers are better than Parker's? Almost 18-6 at 51%fg and 44%3pt. Pair that with their team record (btw, how is it a surprise?) and I think he is indeed a lock.
Re: The amazing Goran's All-Star chances
Posted: Thu Jan 9, 2014 1:46 pm
by Blackification
how does the voting in system work? I hope dragic doesn't split votes with bledsoe and end up losing because of it.
Or do you guys think it'll come down to silver when people who are voted in can't play and he has to pick their replacements? I don't think position matters at that point right?
Re: The amazing Goran's All-Star chances
Posted: Thu Jan 9, 2014 3:11 pm
by WeekapaugGroove
They just look at guards not pg or sg. I think it will be close if all the injured guys don't play. West will take a minimum of 5 gs and maybe 6. IMO Gorans right in that 5-6 mix.
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Re: The amazing Goran's All-Star chances
Posted: Thu Jan 9, 2014 6:48 pm
by carey
phrazbit wrote: I gotta say, all the people who were comparing Goran's potential role on this team to Manu before the year... kudos. He has displayed a level of craftiness that is very Manu-esque, playing a whole lot like Manu in his prime, except not quite as good from the outside but more dangerous in transition.
I've said it a number of times, even going so far as to suggest (before the season) that he should transition to a 6th man role like Manu. Basically a sub that plays starters minutes but tears up other 2nd units. We've been starting him with Bledsoe but use him much the same way. He goes out really early then comes back at the end of the 1st / early 2nd and dominates opposing 2nd unit PGs. It's a big part of the reason we miss Bledsoe so bad.
Re: The amazing Goran's All-Star chances
Posted: Thu Jan 9, 2014 7:11 pm
by NaturalBuns
His chances are slim but he deserves to be in
Re: The amazing Goran's All-Star chances
Posted: Thu Jan 9, 2014 10:13 pm
by phrazbit
The reason Parker is a lock is because All-Star selection is not entirely about numbers. Parker a multi-year all-star and all NBA player, he is the best player on arguably the best team in the West. He is a lock.
Re: The amazing Goran's All-Star chances
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:05 am
by mixerball
Blackification wrote:how does the voting in system work? I hope dragic doesn't split votes with bledsoe and end up losing because of it.
Or do you guys think it'll come down to silver when people who are voted in can't play and he has to pick their replacements? I don't think position matters at that point right?
it doesnt matter how the votes go. his only chance is to be selected by the coaches.
Re: The amazing Goran's All-Star chances
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:11 am
by lilfishi22
Slim chance but if he can continue to elevate his game with Bledsoe on the bench, he could have a strong case as he is carrying our team as much as Lilliard is carrying his.
Re: The amazing Goran's All-Star chances
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:21 am
by Blackification
mixerball wrote:Blackification wrote:how does the voting in system work? I hope dragic doesn't split votes with bledsoe and end up losing because of it.
Or do you guys think it'll come down to silver when people who are voted in can't play and he has to pick their replacements? I don't think position matters at that point right?
it doesnt matter how the votes go. his only chance is to be selected by the coaches.
If an injured player gets voted in doesnt the commissioner pick their replacement?
Re: The amazing Goran's All-Star chances
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:01 am
by Revived
Blackification wrote:mixerball wrote:Blackification wrote:how does the voting in system work? I hope dragic doesn't split votes with bledsoe and end up losing because of it.
Or do you guys think it'll come down to silver when people who are voted in can't play and he has to pick their replacements? I don't think position matters at that point right?
it doesnt matter how the votes go. his only chance is to be selected by the coaches.
If an injured player gets voted in doesnt the commissioner pick their replacement?
Re: The amazing Goran's All-Star chances
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:31 am
by Blackification
SF88 wrote:Blackification wrote:mixerball wrote:it doesnt matter how the votes go. his only chance is to be selected by the coaches.
If an injured player gets voted in doesnt the commissioner pick their replacement?
It'll be Silver picking this year! Here is to a new beginning!
Re: The amazing Goran's All-Star chances
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:25 am
by No-Man
If nobody miss it due to injury,
Curry
Bryant
Durant
Griffin
Howard
Paul
Parker
Westbrook
Harden
Nowitzki
Love
Aldridge
No Lillard unless some injury, no Ellis (Dirk is better), no Lawson (backcourt crowded), no KThompson, Lee, Parsons, no Randolph, Conley, no Davis, no Dragic or Bledsoe, no Ibaka, no Cousins, no Duncan,...
The West is crowded, but those 7 will go if nobody miss it due to injury.
For Dragic to go you need at least, 3 guys missing it, because both Lillard and Davis will go before Dragic.
Re: The amazing Goran's All-Star chances
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:48 pm
by QuickLikeTheo
EVERYONE BETTER BE VOTING FOR DRAGIC EVERYDAY. VIA TEXT AND NBA.com LETS GET HIM IN
Re: The amazing Goran's All-Star chances
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:58 pm
by Superhuman
sunsfan1313 wrote:EVERYONE BETTER BE VOTING FOR DRAGIC EVERYDAY. VIA TEXT AND NBA.com LETS GET HIM IN
It's virtually impossible for him to be voted in as starter. Our only hope is the coaches.