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Top 50 Suns ever

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:47 pm
by bwgood77

Re: Top 50 Suns ever

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:08 pm
by spanishninja
meh, slideshow lists...

Majerle was way too low. He stuck with the Suns way longer than KJ and Barkley.

Re: Top 50 Suns ever

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:08 pm
by Calvin Klein
Those hoopshype lists are usually pretty random. Just based statistics and years with the franchise. Doesn't make much sense.

Re: Top 50 Suns ever

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:23 pm
by bigfoot
I'm more inclined to something like this with a few tweaks here and there

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... rder_by=ws

Re: Top 50 Suns ever

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:16 pm
by bwgood77
bigfoot wrote:I'm more inclined to something like this with a few tweaks here and there

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... rder_by=ws


Yeah, that's a good list, though Marion should probably be moved down 2-4 spots.

Re: Top 50 Suns ever

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:33 am
by AZWildByNature
How is Danny Ainge not in the Top 50 Suns?

Re: Top 50 Suns ever

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:33 pm
by pidi
how is barbosa so high rated? jared dudley over danny manning??

Re: Top 50 Suns ever

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:08 pm
by csavage658
pidi wrote:how is barbosa so high rated? jared dudley over danny manning??


Barbosa? How about Diaw? That one was a little out there to me

Re: Top 50 Suns ever

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:30 am
by GMATCallahan
spanishninja wrote:meh, slideshow lists...

Majerle was way too low. He stuck with the Suns way longer than KJ and Barkley.


You mean in a post-playing career? Majerle played eight seasons with the Suns, fewer than K.J.'s ten full seasons and parts of two others in Phoenix. Yes, Majerle was the last of the three to play for the Suns, but only because he retired a couple years after his former teammates.

Plus, while Majerle was very good, he was essentially a supplementary player and not remotely in the league of Barkley and K.J., one of the greatest forwards and guards, respectively, in NBA history.

Case in point?

Barkley, K.J., and Majerle played in three Games Sevens together, with the following averages:

Barkley: 28.7 points, 20.0 rebounds, 3.3 assists, 1.7 steals, .509 field goal percentage, .843 free throw percentage (27-32, 10.7 FTA)

K.J.: 30.0 points, 10.0 assists, 3.75:1.00 assists-to-turnover ratio, 1.7 steals, 1.0 blocks, .933 free throw percentage (42-45, 15.0 FTA), .581 True Shooting Percentage

Majerle: 8.3 points, 3.3 assists, 4.3 rebounds, .241 field goal percentage (7-29), .159 three-point field goal percentage (2-13), .379 True Shooting Percentage

Re: Top 50 Suns ever

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:45 am
by GMATCallahan
AZWildByNature wrote:How is Danny Ainge not in the Top 50 Suns?


Ainge proved exceptionally clutch. He also played in the three Game Sevens that I cited in my previous post, and here were his averages, all off the bench in 29.3 minutes per contest:

Ainge: 16.7 points, 0.3 turnovers (1 total), .538 field goal percentage, .571 three-point field goal percentage (12-21, 7.0 FGA), .909 free throw percentage, .806 True Shooting Percentage

Indeed, one would be hard-pressed to find two guards more clutch, as a tandem, than K.J. and Ainge. In Game Seven of the 1995 Western Conference Semifinals versus Houston, they each scored 13 points in the fourth quarter (but Hakeem Olajuwon scored 16).