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All-defensive teams named; PJ did not make it

Posted: Mon Jun 2, 2014 6:30 pm
by spanishninja
http://www.nba.com/2014/news/06/02/2014 ... ef:nbahpts

Pretty solid selections overall I guess, but I feel Jordan had a case ahead of Hibbert, especially with the way Hibs declined during the second half of the season. Tucker and Bled both got some votes, which is not bad I guess.

only All-NBA left now for the reg season awards...super anxious to find out whether Goran made one of them!

Re: All-defensive teams named; PJ did not make it

Posted: Mon Jun 2, 2014 6:49 pm
by bwgood77
spanishninja wrote:http://www.nba.com/2014/news/06/02/2014-all-defense-team/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts

Pretty solid selections overall I guess, but I feel Jordan had a case ahead of Hibbert, especially with the way Hibs declined during the second half of the season. Tucker and Bled both got some votes, which is not bad I guess.

only All-NBA left now for the reg season awards...super anxious to find out whether Goran made one of them!


Wow, LeBron tied with Iguodala with 57 first team votes each but Iguodala takes it because of more second team votes. I wonder if he's pissed and if that will give him any extra motivation in the finals.

Re: All-defensive teams named; PJ did not make it

Posted: Mon Jun 2, 2014 6:51 pm
by spanishninja
I just noticed James Harden and Monta Ellis got votes. WTF

Re: All-defensive teams named; PJ did not make it

Posted: Mon Jun 2, 2014 9:11 pm
by RunDogGun
spanishninja wrote:I just noticed James Harden and Monta Ellis got votes. WTF

That should explain things right there. :lol:

Re: All-defensive teams named; PJ did not make it

Posted: Mon Jun 2, 2014 10:15 pm
by WeekapaugGroove
spanishninja wrote:I just noticed James Harden and Monta Ellis got votes. WTF
wait what.. they should definitely revoke the voting rights of any writer who voted for either of these two. Harden might literally be the worst defender in the NBA.

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Re: All-defensive teams named; PJ did not make it

Posted: Tue Jun 3, 2014 1:56 am
by b-ball forever
Whoever voted for Harden was clearly trolling

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Re: All-defensive teams named; PJ did not make it

Posted: Tue Jun 3, 2014 4:26 am
by bwgood77
b-ball forever wrote:Whoever voted for Harden was clearly trolling

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It was a girl from Southsports. I can't tell if she is an active Rockets fan, but I think that is the fox sports affiliate for Houston home games.

As for Monta Ellis, that writer was affiliated with Dallas media.

I don't think media should vote for these. I think it should be coaches who have a better idea of who is a bigger defensive problem than others, and they shouldn't be allowed to vote for players on their own team.

Re: All-defensive teams named; PJ did not make it

Posted: Tue Jun 3, 2014 12:14 pm
by TASTIC
David Lee got a vote too AND Granger who played less than 900min...That is ridiculous.

Wade, Bosh and Curry all received 1st or 2nd team votes!?!?

Re: All-defensive teams named; PJ did not make it

Posted: Tue Jun 3, 2014 3:26 pm
by Djedefre
It looks like many names pop up automatically.

Re: All-defensive teams named; PJ did not make it

Posted: Tue Jun 3, 2014 6:08 pm
by Revived
How did Tony Allen not make it? He made MVP Durant his b**ch for most of the first round.

Re: All-defensive teams named; PJ did not make it

Posted: Tue Jun 3, 2014 6:51 pm
by gaspar
Tony Allen missed 27 games and played only 23 mpg last year.

Re: All-defensive teams named; PJ did not make it

Posted: Tue Jun 3, 2014 7:18 pm
by Miklo
bwgood77 wrote:I don't think media should vote for these. I think it should be coaches who have a better idea of who is a bigger defensive problem than others, and they shouldn't be allowed to vote for players on their own team.


Agreed 100%, Monta or Harden getting even a fraction of one vote should automatically disband the current voting system :banghead:

Whether or not PJ makes it, looking purely from an objective NBA fan standpoint, the all-defensive team designation means absolutely zero if people with that kind of bias get a vote. This isn't the all-star game...

Re: All-defensive teams named; PJ did not make it

Posted: Tue Jun 3, 2014 8:25 pm
by spanishninja
especially since we've had several cases of the defensive player of the year not making the 1st team.

Re: All-defensive teams named; PJ did not make it

Posted: Tue Jun 3, 2014 8:34 pm
by RaisingArizona
TASTIC wrote:David Lee got a vote too AND Granger who played less than 900min...That is ridiculous.

Wade, Bosh and Curry all received 1st or 2nd team votes!?!?


Al McCoy voted for David Lee... or so I heard.

Re: All-defensive teams named; PJ did not make it

Posted: Tue Jun 3, 2014 10:18 pm
by bwgood77
ginobiliflops wrote:
TASTIC wrote:David Lee got a vote too AND Granger who played less than 900min...That is ridiculous.

Wade, Bosh and Curry all received 1st or 2nd team votes!?!?


Al McCoy voted for David Lee... or so I heard.


Al McCoy's votes

1st team - PJ Tucker, Deng, Hibbert, Paul, Matt Barnes
2nd team - Ibaka, David Lee, Howard, Bledsoe, Butler

http://www.nba.com/official/

Re: All-defensive teams named; PJ did not make it

Posted: Wed Jun 4, 2014 7:11 pm
by NTB
bwgood77 wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:
TASTIC wrote:David Lee got a vote too AND Granger who played less than 900min...That is ridiculous.

Wade, Bosh and Curry all received 1st or 2nd team votes!?!?


Al McCoy voted for David Lee... or so I heard.


Al McCoy's votes

1st team - PJ Tucker, Deng, Hibbert, Paul, Matt Barnes
2nd team - Ibaka, David Lee, Howard, Bledsoe, Butler

http://www.nba.com/official/


Very reasonable choices, except David Lee.

Re: All-defensive teams named; PJ did not make it

Posted: Thu Jun 5, 2014 8:26 am
by TASTIC
^Matt Barnes over Ibaka or Butler or Noah - you think is reasonable? Over Lebron?

Bledsoe will get there, but playing LESS than half the season should not be worthy of a vote...

Barnes isn't one of the top 30 defenders let alone top 5...

Re: All-defensive teams named; PJ did not make it

Posted: Thu Jun 5, 2014 1:21 pm
by NTB
TASTIC wrote:^Matt Barnes over Ibaka or Butler or Noah - you think is reasonable? Over Lebron?

Bledsoe will get there, but playing LESS than half the season should not be worthy of a vote...

Barnes isn't one of the top 30 defenders let alone top 5...


Lol i mean Al McCoy is always making terrible decisions. These are lesser terrible. These choices are very reasonable "for him".