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How do you guys have space for Aldridge ?

NBAMAN4LIFE wrote:How do you guys have space for Aldridge ?

A sign and trade with the Morris brother and Tucker most likely.

BKnight's new 5 year contract only has a $8,9 mill cap hold because we own his bird's rights. That can go a long way

How much more dinero can we offer thru S&T rather than SA signing him as a UFA? I think there needs to be a significant financial difference to pull ahead of the Spurs.

DirtyDez wrote:How much more dinero can we offer thru S&T rather than SA signing him as a UFA? I think they're needs to be a significant financial difference to pull ahead of the Spurs.

We would find a way even if we have to give away two first rounders next year to unload the twins and/or Tucker. Philly would take the twins if they got draft picks...they have good contracts and would give their frontcourt serious depth and some experience...they only have rookie contracts so they need to hit the salary floor.

bwgood77 wrote:

DirtyDez wrote:How much more dinero can we offer thru S&T rather than SA signing him as a UFA? I think they're needs to be a significant financial difference to pull ahead of the Spurs.

We would find a way even if we have to give away two first rounders next year to unload the twins and/or Tucker. Philly would take the twins if they got draft picks...they have good contracts and would give their frontcourt serious depth and some experience...they only have rookie contracts so they need to hit the salary floor.

I was thinking Philly would be a good place to bring up but they just traded for Landry, Thompson and Stauskas.

That doesn't help us getting LMA richer than the Spurs would, though.

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I always thought you could go over cap with Bird Rights (EG. Knight).

PLAYER 2015/16
PJ Tucker $5,500,000
Alex Len $3,807,120
Tyson Chandler $13,000,000
Markieff Morris $8,000,000
Marcus Morris $5,000,000
TJ Warren $2,041,080
Archie Goodwin $1,160,160
Eric Bledsoe $13,500,000
Devin Booker $1,773,200
Brandon Knight $8,900,000 Cap hold
Danny Granger $2,100,000
Reggie Bullock $1,252,400
Jon Leuer $1,035,000
Jerel McNeal $ 845,059

TOTAL $67,914,019

CAP $69,000,000?

CAP SPACE - approx $1,085,981

LaMarcus Aldridge Max $20,300,000

It seems we'd have to get rid of the twins, PJ and Granger or Bullock and McNeal.

if we do a sign and trade with Portland would he then be eligible to sign for the 5 yr max?

rottenbanana36 wrote:if we do a sign and trade with Portland would he then be eligible to sign for the 5 yr max?

Yea that would be the only reason for sign and trade

I think the Morrii plus the Miami trade exception and a pick suffice trading for max deal on lma. Tucker could very well go too. We'd lose perimeter defense but warrens still young and could learn under granger. Granger may have a resurgence this year simply due to health and all the open looks he will have if lma comes to town.


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Couldn't we also just hold off on signing Knight to his contract since we can go over cap to sign him

That's already a given. The challenge is finding room for him AND Chandler

franksredhot wrote:

rottenbanana36 wrote:if we do a sign and trade with Portland would he then be eligible to sign for the 5 yr max?

Yea that would be the only reason for sign and trade

No. 5 year S&T's are not allowed in the current CBA.

bwgood77 wrote:PLAYER 2015/16
PJ Tucker $5,500,000
Alex Len $3,807,120
Tyson Chandler $13,000,000
Markieff Morris $8,000,000
Marcus Morris $5,000,000
TJ Warren $2,041,080
Archie Goodwin $1,160,160
Eric Bledsoe $13,500,000
Devin Booker $1,773,200
Brandon Knight $8,900,000 Cap hold
Danny Granger $2,100,000
Reggie Bullock $1,252,400
Jon Leuer $1,035,000
Jerel McNeal $ 845,059

TOTAL $67,914,019

CAP $69,000,000?

CAP SPACE - approx $1,085,981

LaMarcus Aldridge Max $20,300,000

It seems we'd have to get rid of the twins, PJ and Granger or Bullock and McNeal.

Revised:

PJ Tucker $5,500,000
Alex Len $3,807,120
Tyson Chandler $12,154,671*
Markieff Morris $8,000,000
TJ Warren $2,041,080
Archie Goodwin $1,160,160
Eric Bledsoe $13,500,000
Devin Booker $1,773,200
Brandon Knight $8,900,000 Cap hold
Jon Leuer $1,035,000
Jerel McNeal $ 845,059

*To create a little more cap room, I'd presume Tyson Chandler's contract is probably structured to use 4.5% raises each year, starting at $12.154,671 and ending at $13,870,497 in year 4.

TOTAL $58,716,290

CAP $69,000,000?

CAP SPACE - approx $10,283,710

LaMarcus Aldridge Max $20,300,000

Jon Leur and Jerel Mcneal being waived or traded for players to be waived would raise the cap space to $12,163,769.

Moving Markieff would free up $20,163,769 of cap space....so freaking close lol. I dont think Tyson Chandler would mind shaving off 136,231 if it meant signing Aldridge. It's also a possibility that Tucker, Booker or Goodwin gets packaged in a S&T with Markieff.

This projected cap space also assumes that Goran Dragic's of 5.5 m$ trade exception is renounced. IIRC, it's legal albeit highly unlikely to use his trade exception to trade for a player making up to 8.25 m$ (150% of the trade exception) that can be waived to create an additional 2.75 m$ in cap room.

Moochthemonkey wrote:

bwgood77 wrote:PLAYER 2015/16
PJ Tucker $5,500,000
Alex Len $3,807,120
Tyson Chandler $13,000,000
Markieff Morris $8,000,000
Marcus Morris $5,000,000
TJ Warren $2,041,080
Archie Goodwin $1,160,160
Eric Bledsoe $13,500,000
Devin Booker $1,773,200
Brandon Knight $8,900,000 Cap hold
Danny Granger $2,100,000
Reggie Bullock $1,252,400
Jon Leuer $1,035,000
Jerel McNeal $ 845,059

TOTAL $67,914,019

CAP $69,000,000?

CAP SPACE - approx $1,085,981

LaMarcus Aldridge Max $20,300,000

It seems we'd have to get rid of the twins, PJ and Granger or Bullock and McNeal.

Revised:

PJ Tucker $5,500,000
Alex Len $3,807,120
Tyson Chandler $12,154,671*
Markieff Morris $8,000,000
TJ Warren $2,041,080
Archie Goodwin $1,160,160
Eric Bledsoe $13,500,000
Devin Booker $1,773,200
Brandon Knight $8,900,000 Cap hold
Jon Leuer $1,035,000
Jerel McNeal $ 845,059

*To create a little more cap room, I'd presume Tyson Chandler's contract is probably structured to use 4.5% raises each year, starting at $12.154,671 and ending at $13,870,497 in year 4.

TOTAL $58,716,290

CAP $69,000,000?

CAP SPACE - approx $10,283,710

LaMarcus Aldridge Max $20,300,000

Jon Leur and Jerel Mcneal being waived or traded for players to be waived would raise the cap space to $12,163,769.

Moving Markieff would free up $20,163,769 of cap space....so freaking close lol. I dont think Tyson Chandler would mind shaving off 136,231 if it meant signing Aldridge. It's also a possibility that Tucker, Booker or Goodwin gets packaged in a S&T with Markieff.

This projected cap space also assumes that Goran Dragic's of 5.5 m$ trade exception is renounced. IIRC, it's legal albeit highly unlikely to use his trade exception to trade for a player making up to 8.25 m$ (150% of the trade exception) that can be waived to create an additional 2.75 m$ in cap room.

I think Aldridge's max might be a tad less than that, but it depends on what the cap # comes in at. But yeah, it looks like Kieff has to go if we get Aldridge, and I like Kieff, but it's obviously worth it.

But if Aldridge commits, we should try to send Kieff elsewhere for a first round pick and not involve him in a S&T if we can create the cap space difference with McNeal and Leuer.