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sunbolt wrote:How about:
Markieff & Archie to Toronto
Patterson & Delon Wright to Phoenix
Raptors don't need Wright at point because Cory Joseph signing in free agency. Suns avoid more complaining from Archie being overloaded at the wing position with Weems / Booker and get a back up point guard for the future. Patterson is a solid rotation stretch four who played with Bledsoe at Kentucky and is on a bargain two year contract. Good chemistry and fits our system.
Bledsoe / Wright / Price
Knight / Booker / Weems
Warren / Tucker / Weems
Chandler / Len
Patterson / Teletovic
Maybe we can get a pick from Toronto too or a swap up to the worse of Knicks/Nuggets pick next year owned by Toronto. Something is up with Markieff mentioning Toronto by name. We also preserve max cap space next summer for free agency or trade. Starting power forward may be the only need at that point.
Frank Lee wrote:You guys clearly place a lot more value on these draft picks than I, and sure are comfortable thinking Dragic has peaked and will be washed up at 33. You also assume we would have paid Dragic the same as Miami (which will likely look like a normal deal as the spending spree escalates) May be consider a happy Dragon would have signed a lessor deal to remain the #1 dog. Two can assume, no?
I see you also neglected to mention we gave up LA's 1st to get Knight along with 2014's #18(Ennis). Who would have thought we'd trade LA's pick (????) AND the #18 which BTW, we got for theGORTAT and 2012's #13 (Marshall) Repeat... Martin GORTAT +2012 #13 ... for Tyler Ennis. How did that one 'Net'-out ? But lets not go there... that fogs up the glasses.
I place little value on the Cleveland pick. Odds are it wont amount to anything tangible for 2-3 yrs (see Goodwin) or may be a draft and stash euro.
Miami's 2017-18 top 7 protected and 2021 1st....As long as Mickey is the owner and Riley the GM... and Miami (the city) doesn't fall off the earth they will be competitive as they are always going to be an attractive FA stop. ...those will likely be mid picks at the best.
Thats a late and two mid 1sts. May be, just may be Miami's 2021 slides into a top slot... but with the current quest to rebuild/retool/regurgitate I think its an even bet Mcduh trades them as he attempts to land a superstar....
and catch his feather in a windstorm.
The best post on where we are ???? Wow. That calls for a new pair
carey wrote:It is 2-time, every time.
saintEscaton wrote:I don't think Kieff will be a Nugget. [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-xdqzQ3-gc[/youtube]
Teams are calling, Suns telling them not interested in trading him at this point
Saberestar wrote:Teams are calling, Suns telling them not interested in trading him at this point
https://mobile.twitter.com/Gambo987/status/632291944459145217
bigfoot wrote:Saberestar wrote:Teams are calling, Suns telling them not interested in trading him at this point
https://mobile.twitter.com/Gambo987/status/632291944459145217
Suns playing this game correctly. We may have to hold onto the misfit until Dec 15 at which time a lot more trade options open up. Kief will be gone. If he acts up one teeny bit the Suns should just send him home until he can be moved.
DarkHawk wrote:At least we know teams are def interested
NavLDO wrote:Frank Lee wrote:You guys clearly place a lot more value on these draft picks than I, and sure are comfortable thinking Dragic has peaked and will be washed up at 33. You also assume we would have paid Dragic the same as Miami (which will likely look like a normal deal as the spending spree escalates) May be consider a happy Dragon would have signed a lessor deal to remain the #1 dog. Two can assume, no?
I see you also neglected to mention we gave up LA's 1st to get Knight along with 2014's #18(Ennis). Who would have thought we'd trade LA's pick (????) AND the #18 which BTW, we got for theGORTAT and 2012's #13 (Marshall) Repeat... Martin GORTAT +2012 #13 ... for Tyler Ennis. How did that one 'Net'-out ? But lets not go there... that fogs up the glasses.
I place little value on the Cleveland pick. Odds are it wont amount to anything tangible for 2-3 yrs (see Goodwin) or may be a draft and stash euro.
Miami's 2017-18 top 7 protected and 2021 1st....As long as Mickey is the owner and Riley the GM... and Miami (the city) doesn't fall off the earth they will be competitive as they are always going to be an attractive FA stop. ...those will likely be mid picks at the best.
Thats a late and two mid 1sts. May be, just may be Miami's 2021 slides into a top slot... but with the current quest to rebuild/retool/regurgitate I think its an even bet Mcduh trades them as he attempts to land a superstar....
and catch his feather in a windstorm.
The best post on where we are ???? Wow. That calls for a new pair
Wow! Impressive. Amazing that you were able to infer that Miami is a much higher regarded FA destination than Phoenix, yet in the same breath, assume that Dragic would've given a 'discount' to sign in this much less favorable FA destination. How does that compute, exactly?
And yes, $17M per for Dragic is about $4M higher than I personally would've been comfortable paying a 29 YO player who has never been recognized via All-Star game, and has only a 3rd Team All-NBA selection to his name. So you fail to recognize Chandler as being good investment at $13M, who has, within the last 4 years been recognized (proving he has 'aged well'), as the NBA's DPOY, 3-time NBA All-Defense, one 3rd Team All-NBA, and an All-Star game. And this all at a position more coveted/difficult to find talent in.
And reactionary? McD has made plenty of trades that were not born out of necessity like Jared Dudley for Bledsoe. So trying to paint McD as a GM that doesn't make trades or FA signings unless it's in reaction to a player's unhappiness is an unfair characterization. As being an 'older' gentleman, Frank, I would think you would be able to rise above the notion of 'immediate gratification', but apparently not. Has McD been perfect? No. Has he been a GM for a long period of time? No. Yet you are awfully quick to judge a GM that has taken this team from a 25-57 team to an overall, above .500 winning % team.
letsgosuns wrote:Seriously I wish I was wrong about the Morris brothers and they would have turned out to be productive players for a winning Suns team. I would have loved to be proven wrong about all the things I said about them. Obviously that is not the case. And unfortunately this Markieff situation has gotten worse than I ever imagined and every day it drags on is just more negativity. I want it to be over already so fans can talk about something positive instead of this garbage.
RunDogGun wrote:letsgosuns wrote:Seriously I wish I was wrong about the Morris brothers and they would have turned out to be productive players for a winning Suns team. I would have loved to be proven wrong about all the things I said about them. Obviously that is not the case. And unfortunately this Markieff situation has gotten worse than I ever imagined and every day it drags on is just more negativity. I want it to be over already so fans can talk about something positive instead of this garbage.
Nice "I told you so" post.![]()
However, you were wrong, they were productive on a winning Suns team. The problem is you hated them from the start. They are just being babies about being separated after taking a collective deal. It's their own fault really, but it doesn't negate their productivity.
Saberestar wrote:Teams are calling, Suns telling them not interested in trading him at this point
https://mobile.twitter.com/Gambo987/status/632291944459145217