Brandon Knight Needs to be Traded ASAP

[BoomShakaLuka]

Knight sucks closing out basketball games. Tonight he shoots 6-20 with six assists against five turnovers. On the season he's averaging 5 assists and 3.3 turnovers per game. He is not a floor general in the slightest and can't defend anyone's shadow. Suns need to get rid of him by Feb. Maybe the Knicks will take him they seem desperate for a PG right now.

Knight and Goodwin for Calderon and Afflalo.

[DRK]

i would like Knight to play the Barbosa role off the bench. Start Bled and Booker next season, and allow Knight to come off the bench as a secondary ball handler.

Dream scenario is we get Simmons and he can play point guard for the second unit.

[bwgood77]

i would like Knight to play the Barbosa role off the bench. Start Bled and Booker next season, and allow Knight to come off the bench as a secondary ball handler.

Dream scenario is we get Simmons and he can play point guard for the second unit.

I agree with this. Knight should come off the bench and Simmons isn't ready to start, but would be killer point forward in a second unit.

[sunskerr]

I'm now beginning to side with the people who say Knight and Bledsoe can't coexist. Having 1 primary ball handler mitigates the problem of ball stopping because there isn't a secondary guy trying to force the play and get his numbers, which seemed to be happening when both Bledsoe and Knight play at the same time.

So I agree with Knight coming off the bench when we get Bledsoe back next year.

[Fo-Real]

Would much rather have I.T. aka MIGHTY MOUSE, AKA EAST ALLSTAR!!!

[Mr Puddles]

i would like Knight to play the Barbosa role off the bench. Start Bled and Booker next season, and allow Knight to come off the bench as a secondary ball handler.

Dream scenario is we get Simmons and he can play point guard for the second unit.

I agree with this. Knight should come off the bench and Simmons isn't ready to start, but would be killer point forward in a second unit.

Bledsoe / Booker / Warren / PF* / Chandler
Knight/ Luwawu / Tucker / Simmons / Len


*Leuer, Mirza, Tucker, Morris (Jones?) - whatever our status is moving into next season.

Luwawu, Tucker, and Len = potential solid and versatile defensive second unit.
Tucker / Simmons /Luwawu / Len = great rebounding potential
Knight / Simmons = Run offense through Simmons, Knight plays much better off the ball and should be able to take advantage of opposing second unit guards.

I would still look to trade either Bledsoe or Knight when they're at peak value and ideally get a pass first defensive minded point guard instead who can hit open shots. We have ample weapons on offense, but really need some glue guys to round out our rotation IMO.

[bwgood77]

i would like Knight to play the Barbosa role off the bench. Start Bled and Booker next season, and allow Knight to come off the bench as a secondary ball handler.

Dream scenario is we get Simmons and he can play point guard for the second unit.

I agree with this. Knight should come off the bench and Simmons isn't ready to start, but would be killer point forward in a second unit.

Bledsoe / Booker / Warren / PF* / Chandler
Knight/ Luwawu / Tucker / Simmons / Len


*Leuer, Mirza, Tucker, Morris (Jones?) - whatever our status is moving into next season.

Luwawu, Tucker, and Len = potential solid and versatile defensive second unit.
Tucker / Simmons /Luwawu / Len = great rebounding potential
Knight / Simmons = Run offense through Simmons, Knight plays much better off the ball and should be able to take advantage of opposing second unit guards.

I would still look to trade either Bledsoe or Knight when they're at peak value and ideally get a pass first defensive minded point guard instead who can hit open shots. We have ample weapons on offense, but really need some glue guys to round out our rotation IMO.

I agree, I would trade those guys at peak value, but I am not sure what exactly that might be......maybe some team desperate will give up something but right now I don't really think either have much trade value.

[Mr Puddles]

I agree with this. Knight should come off the bench and Simmons isn't ready to start, but would be killer point forward in a second unit.

Bledsoe / Booker / Warren / PF* / Chandler
Knight/ Luwawu / Tucker / Simmons / Len


*Leuer, Mirza, Tucker, Morris (Jones?) - whatever our status is moving into next season.

Luwawu, Tucker, and Len = potential solid and versatile defensive second unit.
Tucker / Simmons /Luwawu / Len = great rebounding potential
Knight / Simmons = Run offense through Simmons, Knight plays much better off the ball and should be able to take advantage of opposing second unit guards.

I would still look to trade either Bledsoe or Knight when they're at peak value and ideally get a pass first defensive minded point guard instead who can hit open shots. We have ample weapons on offense, but really need some glue guys to round out our rotation IMO.

I agree, I would trade those guys at peak value, but I am not sure what exactly that might be......maybe some team desperate will give up something but right now I don't really think either have much trade value.

I think our best bet is a team that is currently competitive, but needs an upgrade at the PG spot to take the next step. Especially, if it's a defensive minded team that is in need of a scorer. Anyway, Bledsoe is not going to be traded until he fully recovers and has played a few games at the same level as early this season.

- Bledsoe would be great for Utah, but they don't really have anything of interest for us (at least nothing that they'd be willing to trade, e.g. Favors).
- Orlando potentially if they become disenchanted with Payton as a starter. Aaron Gorden + Oladipo? I'd prefer Hezonja actually because I think he would excel in Phoenix but don't think that Orlando would be willing to part with him.

Not sure yet at this stage. The Suns should definitely not rush things though, just wait it out and see when a good offer presents itself.

[ATTL]

Which teams are in the market for a scoring guard that is trending downwards, takes dumb shots, and can't lead a team efficiently?
I'd love to flip knight or bledsoe to get Payton from the magic but I don't think that's possible.

[bwgood77]

Which teams are in the market for a scoring guard that is trending downwards, takes dumb shots, and can't lead a team efficiently?
I'd love to flip knight or bledsoe to get Payton from the magic but I don't think that's possible.

I don't think Scott Skiles would be game for that. McD is willing to pay $14 million a year for it though. Lets hope he somehow proves right on this one in the long run.

[Saberestar]

I completely agree. If McDonough can get a good player or a decent pick we need to move Knight ASAP.

I have said sometimes that we can go after Oladipo...probably Knight & Cavs pick for Oladipo & Frye works. We can try this with a third team involved if is needed.

Teams that need a PG....
NYK?
Houston?
Indiana?

I do not see too many options out there, but if we have the opportunity we have to trade him.... or play him like instant offense coming from the bench, just that.

[bwgood77]

I completely agree. If McDonough can get a good player or a decent pick we need to move Knight ASAP.

I have said sometimes that we can go after Oladipo...probably Knight & Cavs pick for Oladipo & Frye works. We can try this with a third team involved if is needed.

Teams that need a PG....
NYK?
Houston?
Indiana?

I do not see too many options out there, but if we have the opportunity we have to trade him.... or play him like instant offense coming from the bench, just that.

MAYBE Houston, since Harden is primary ball handler and they do best with spot up shooting pg. But doubtful any team will trade for him.

[bigfoot]

I posted about trading Bledsoe a while back ... viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1418933#start_here

It obvious playing the two together creates an enormous blackhole where over 1) 50% of the shots are taken and 2) 50% of the turnovers are made by these two players. It just doesn't make sense to play them together.

I'm in favor of jettisoning either one of them but I think it would be easier to trade Bledsoe. However, that was before his latest injury. Now I'm uncertain about trading either one of them and getting value in return. What we have to look at is their contract value. Next year Knight and Bledsoe make $12.6M and $14M. Sounds like a lot but the max contracts are going to be low-to-mid $20Ms. They still should be fairly easy to move next year.

If not it is absolutely time for Knight to take on the sixth man role. Could fill in much more like Barbosa.

[nevetsov]

I think BK would make a lot of sense in Chicago as a third guard:

- He can play SG alongside Rose.
- He can play off ball PG alongside Butler.
- They can go small with BK at SG and Butler at SF for spurts/ crunch time.
- He is a solid contingency in case of Rose injury.

If we could bag some assets from them, we could always flip them to contenders for picks.

[RunDogGun]

His confidence seems low, and he seems to play off his confidence. It isn't anything new for us. Goran was/is the same way. Hopefully he finds his way while Bledsoe is out. If not, it will be a bad contract.

[rsavaj]

He would thrive in the 6th man microwave scorer role. Problem is I don't think he'd accept it.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Am I the only one on this board who likes Brandon Knight? Admittedly, not worth what we gave up for him, but still a very good player with a lot of room left for growth.

[rsavaj]

He's not a bad player...he just has a lot of bad habits that end up negating his effectiveness.

[TASTIC]

76ers could use a high character guy like him, locked up long-term and he'd give their team some much needed scoring.

Though they got Ish Smith for dirt cheap and he's been killing it and playing superbly with Noel.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

He's not a bad player...he just has a lot of bad habits that end up negating his effectiveness.

I agree, but I also think he's shown a willingness to pass that I haven't seen from Bledsoe. I like the threat that his outside shooting gives us - one of the best 3 point shooters at the PG spot in the league. I'm hopeful that playing with Booker and TJ will decrease his turnovers as he's not having to force as much on offense. He's right that he's not an SG - he's a PG, both offensively and defensively.

For as much as I love our college scouting, I'm not nearly as confident in our NBA scouting - why we thought we could start Knight at SG I'll never know.