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Around the NBA

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 1:52 pm
by bwgood77
For talk about coaching changes, offseason moves, lottery results, etc...please try and keep playoff talk in that thread, if only because we often have similar conversations in two places.

Re: Around the NBA - The looming lottery - The Suns await their fate

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 4:11 am
by Gorilla Warfare
Permission to talk about the playoffs in this thread...?

Re: Around the NBA - The looming lottery - The Suns await their fate

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 4:34 am
by bwgood77
Gorilla Warfare wrote:Permission to talk about the playoffs in this thread...?


Well, there is a playoffs thread, so you would probably get more activity there. I was hoping this would be more for discussion on what happens with teams outside of the playoffs, the draft lottery, and then once the finals are over, that thread will die and it all comes here.

Re: Around the NBA - The looming lottery - The Suns await their fate

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 6:08 am
by Frank Lee
what is the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow?

Re: Around the NBA - The looming lottery - The Suns await their fate

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 6:08 am
by Frank Lee
wrong thread?

Re: Around the NBA - The looming lottery - The Suns await their fate

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 6:15 am
by MrMiyagi
Can we make predictions for the top 3? I'll start: #1 - Los Angeles Lakers, #2 - New Orleans Pelicans, #3 - Boston Celtics.

Re: Around the NBA - The looming lottery - The Suns await their fate

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 6:22 am
by darealjuice
#1 Suns #2 Suns #3 Suns

Re: Around the NBA - The looming lottery - The Suns await their fate

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 10:49 am
by Qwigglez
1. Pelicans 2. Wizards 3. Sixers

Re: Around the NBA - The looming lottery - The Suns await their fate

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 12:57 pm
by Mulhollanddrive
I imagine Brooklyn and Lakers positions will be of interest to Ryan McDonough.

Hope we didn't swap 3 useless wins and Brandon Knight for picks 1 and 4.

Re: Around the NBA - The looming lottery - The Suns await their fate

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 2:34 pm
by Gorilla Warfare
bwgood77 wrote:
Gorilla Warfare wrote:Permission to talk about the playoffs in this thread...?


Well, there is a playoffs thread, so you would probably get more activity there. I was hoping this would be more for discussion on what happens with teams outside of the playoffs, the draft lottery, and then once the finals are over, that thread will die and it all comes here.


I was just hoping for a simple "permission denied" so I could add to the joke, but you ruined it. It's over now.

Re: Around the NBA - The looming lottery - The Suns await their fate

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 4:37 pm
by bwgood77
Gorilla Warfare wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Gorilla Warfare wrote:Permission to talk about the playoffs in this thread...?


Well, there is a playoffs thread, so you would probably get more activity there. I was hoping this would be more for discussion on what happens with teams outside of the playoffs, the draft lottery, and then once the finals are over, that thread will die and it all comes here.


I was just hoping for a simple "permission denied" so I could add to the joke, but you ruined it. It's over now.


:dontknow:

Re: Around the NBA - The looming lottery - The Suns await their fate

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 4:40 pm
by bwgood77
Our worst possible outcome.

1. Utah
2. Minnesota
3. Washington
4. Philly
5. Philly via Lakers
6. Boston via Brooklyn
7. Phoenix

Our chief young rivals going forward get top two and we lose Washington pick. Or Pelicans get top two also to add one of those guys to AD. Minnesota will probably be set anyway with who they have plus Hield or Murray or Ellenson.

Re: Around the NBA - The looming lottery - The Suns await their fate

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 10:06 pm
by jcsunsfan
bwgood77 wrote:Our worst possible outcome.

1. Utah
2. Minnesota
3. Washington
4. Philly
5. Philly via Lakers
6. Boston via Brooklyn
7. Phoenix

Our chief young rivals going forward get top two and we lose Washington pick. Or Pelicans get top two also to add one of those guys to AD. Minnesota will probably be set anyway with who they have plus Hield or Murray or Ellenson.


Might as well contemplate the possibility.

Re: Around the NBA - The looming lottery - The Suns await their fate

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 10:15 pm
by Gorilla Warfare
bwgood77 wrote:Our worst possible outcome.

1. Utah
2. Minnesota
3. Washington
4. Philly
5. Philly via Lakers
6. Boston via Brooklyn
7. Phoenix


This is how I expect the lottery to go, as the Suns cannot catch a break, nor will they ever catch a break.

Re: Around the NBA - The looming lottery - The Suns await their fate

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 10:50 pm
by letsgosuns
Where the Suns pick in this year's draft will impact the franchise for the next 10 or more years. If they get the number one pick and the player they draft ends up being a superstar, the Suns could become a real contender within a few years if they make the right moves. If they do not get at least a top three pick, the chances of the player they draft becoming a superstar drops off significantly, and so does the outlook of the franchise. Amazing how the NBA draft lottery can actually make or break a franchise. The NBA is the only league I can think of where building a champion is based more on luck than anything else. The Suns have never won the draft lottery before and they have never won a championship.

Re: Around the NBA - The looming lottery - The Suns await their fate

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 12:17 pm
by DRK
Had a dream last night that we drafted Ben Simmons.

Re: Around the NBA - The looming lottery - The Suns await their fate

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 4:48 pm
by Waylay13
If we get one of the top two players in the draft the future becomes very different for the Suns. We can start to look to build a very good team. If we dont get a high draft pick and find some players to fill our needs then expect the Suns to do what they have been doing in the off season and that is over pay to bring in a few players who will hold them into the late lottery for the foreseeable future.

Re: Around the NBA - The looming lottery - The Suns await their fate

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 8:53 pm
by ATTL
Wizards won the lottery first two times I simmed it today.
2 days away from finding out who we will be propping up for the next month until the draft where puke gifs will run rampant.

Re: Around the NBA - The looming lottery - The Suns await their fate

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 9:12 pm
by bwgood77
ATTL wrote:Wizards won the lottery first two times I simmed it today.
2 days away from finding out who we will be propping up for the next month until the draft where puke gifs will run rampant.

I simmed it a few times this morning also and Suns got 2nd pick first two tries. They probably got first a couple others out of the 7 or 8 times I did it and 5th or 6th the rest.

Re: Around the NBA - The looming lottery - The Suns await their fate

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 11:37 pm
by saintEscaton
Call me greedy but I wouldn't be satisfied even if by some miracle we land Simmons/Ingram, that doesn't transform us into a contender overnight and we still need a complete roster overhaul/influx of talent to get there which may require actively tanking. Neither are can't miss prospects. Simmons is more a sure thing but his skillset is a novelty for his position, I see him capping out as an All-Star alternate if he remains a tweener defensively with limited range and no killer instinct. Ingram would rank behind several wings in past classes, but he has a higher two-way ceiling , has that "it factor" and is just what the modern NBA is looking for. Its unlikely but I don't think its out of the possibility that someone taken outside the Top 2 becomes the best player in this draft, it just won't be one of the guards IMO