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Weird game...

At least it didn't go to OT?

-3 Earl "The family man" Watson
In a season where emphasis should be on developing youth, you give the 3 1 rd picks total combined of 1 minute?? All that in favour of players like Knight, Tucker and Len who mostly provided negative impact so far. Really?

-2 Knight

-1 Tucker

+3 Booker
+2 Warren
+1 Chandler

+3 Booker
+2 Warren
+1 Len (close with Chandler but got nearly as many boards in far fewer minutes, fewer turnovers, didn't shoot too much)

-3 Knight
-2 Barbosa
-1 Tucker

LacosteM wrote:-3 Earl "The family man" Watson
In a season where emphasis should be on developing youth, you give the 3 1 rd picks total combined of 1 minute?? All that in favour of players like Knight, Tucker and Len who mostly provided negative impact so far. Really?

-2 Knight

-1 Tucker

+3 Booker
+2 Warren
+1 Chandler

Yeah, Watson should get -3 every time for that...I can somewhat understand playing the vets in the 2nd unit if they play well, but if they are playing like dog ****, time to put the young guys in. I won't vote for him thought because 90% of people vote for players, so voting for him is a throwaway vote in the season long compilation.

+3 Booker
+2 Warren - These two are quickly becoming the dynamic duo that the suns have been looking for.
+1 Chandler

-1 Len
-2 Tucker
-3 Knight

+3 Booker
+2 Warren
+1 Chandler

-1 LB
-2 Tucker
-3 Watson for adding another rookie to his doghouse. Keep it up

3. TJ
2. Book (Had a lot to do with our first half woes)
1. Chandler (played with fire)

-3. BK
-2. Earl
-1. PJ

+3 Booker: Good game on offense, but he was getting taken 1 on 1 a lot on the defensive end by guys like Swaggy P and ****.
+2 Warren: Couldn't get his touch going to start the game but he started getting his shot to fall later in the game. Decent game but he gave up a big turnover when the game was close dribbling the ball carelessly.
+1 Len: Once he focused on getting boards and just dunking the ball he looked okay out there. I'd like to see him have more presence on defense, especially on pick and rolls.

-3 Knight: Total disappointment for that sixth man role so far this year, he's just bad.
-2 Tucker: What was Tucker doing on the court for 20 minutes? 0 points, 1 rebound, 1 block and that's it? It's not like he was playing good defense either. I never was big PJ fan but jeez, you have to contribute somehow.
-1 Bledsoe: He'd done an okay job all year taking care of the ball, but this game was bad. His 3 pointer is not dropping right now either, he needs to take the cue and start getting to the bucket more (preferably without the offensive fouls/turnovers).

Extremely frustrating, sloppy game. I've been patient with Watson and his rotation lacking rookies, but I don't see how they can do any worse than PJ, LB, and Knight do.

I dont know...i cant give the -3 to Watson. IMO vets get the benefit of the doubt and have to prove that they dont belong in the game. When they prove that, then you can justify not playing guys like Tucker/Knight/Barbosa.

Tonight we got ourselves a step closer to PROVING that Tucker/Knight should not be played in favor of the youth.

Watson is a "family" guy and in order to do things like playing youth vs. vets you need justify moves.

My hope is that next game he pulls AT LEAST Tucker aside and says "you know what, you've underperformed since the start, i need to give minutes to the youth." And for Knight.....the realization is that he's NEVER starting, and i hope that Watson can convince him to play hard so that he can get himself traded. Because at this point, he doesnt deserve minutes, and doesnt deserve to be traded.

+3 Booker
+2 TJ
+1 Len

-3 Knight
-2 PJ
-1 Chriss/Bender. They must have done something wrong

3. Booker
2. TJ
1. Chandler

-3. Knight - get off the team already
-2. Watson - No one producing off the bench and he still refuses to play ulis or Bender and on top of that Chriss only gets a minute
-1. Bledsoe - Not worth the money he is getting, still can't run an offense or do anything but drive to the basket and play D.

+3 Booker
+2 TJ
+1 Len

-3 Knight
-2 PJ
-1 Barbosa

asudevil wrote:I dont know...i cant give the -3 to Watson. IMO vets get the benefit of the doubt and have to prove that they dont belong in the game. When they prove that, then you can justify not playing guys like Tucker/Knight/Barbosa.

Tonight we got ourselves a step closer to PROVING that Tucker/Knight should not be played in favor of the youth.

Watson is a "family" guy and in order to do things like playing youth vs. vets you need justify moves.

My hope is that next game he pulls AT LEAST Tucker aside and says "you know what, you've underperformed since the start, i need to give minutes to the youth." And for Knight.....the realization is that he's NEVER starting, and i hope that Watson can convince him to play hard so that he can get himself traded. Because at this point, he doesnt deserve minutes, and doesnt deserve to be traded.

I'm pretty sure there would be zero chance ANY team would have any interest in Knight right now. If they just look at his numbers and watch his play, what he provides (or the better word is subtracts) is not worth what he gets paid. He helps you lose, not win.

+3 Chandler: Boards and a clean game
+2 Warren: 1st half was huge
+1 Booker: 2nd half was huge

-1 Our Guards Defense: Someone gave up 65 to their guards
-2 PJ: Didn't have an +impact in 20min
-3 Knight: Bad shots, Bad D, No ball movement

bwgood77 wrote:

asudevil wrote:I dont know...i cant give the -3 to Watson. IMO vets get the benefit of the doubt and have to prove that they dont belong in the game. When they prove that, then you can justify not playing guys like Tucker/Knight/Barbosa.

Tonight we got ourselves a step closer to PROVING that Tucker/Knight should not be played in favor of the youth.

Watson is a "family" guy and in order to do things like playing youth vs. vets you need justify moves.

My hope is that next game he pulls AT LEAST Tucker aside and says "you know what, you've underperformed since the start, i need to give minutes to the youth." And for Knight.....the realization is that he's NEVER starting, and i hope that Watson can convince him to play hard so that he can get himself traded. Because at this point, he doesnt deserve minutes, and doesnt deserve to be traded.

I'm pretty sure there would be zero chance ANY team would have any interest in Knight right now. If they just look at his numbers and watch his play, what he provides (or the better word is subtracts) is not worth what he gets paid. He helps you lose, not win.

It would take a team believing he just needs to get a change of scenery and be in the role he is comfortable in. I don't know who that is. Hopefully the Kings lol.

+3 Booker
+2 Warren
+1 Dude who hit the half court shot for like $35K

-3 Watson for playing Tucker
-2 Tucker for playing like himself
-1 Knight for morfing into a shell of himself in a role he should be excelling in.

+3 Booker
+2 Warren
+1 Chandler

-3 Watson - not playing Chriss....or Bender....or Ullis. WTF are we doing - we are a lottery team and we are not playing our high draft picks. Unacceptable.
-2 Knight
-1 Tucker - trade this drunk

ATTL wrote:+3 Booker
+2 TJ
+1 Len

-3 Knight
-2 PJ
-1 Barbosa

This

Glad to see Watson get some flak

-3 Watson - overplaying guys like Knight, Tucker when neither were productive over our young players who may have made a difference. When we needed some ball movement and clear direction on the floor, he kept Ulis on the bench. Why not try something else?
-2 PJ/Knight - Wasn't productive at all. PJ played 20minutes and he recorded 1r, 1blk, 1TO and 2fls...??? Knight similarly brought nothing to the table. Leads right back to Watson's coaching.
-1 Bledsoe - A starting PG in the NBA who brought no leadership when we needed it most. 2 assist is just not good enough.

+3 Booker - stunk it up for way too long but woke up at a critical time in the game.
+2 Chandler - at certain points in the game, he was the only one who seem to be able to get himself high percentage shots.
+1 Len - I would've given this to Warren for consistency but I wanted to highlight this is Len's 2nd double digit rebounding effort in under 18mpg. Keep it up young fella!m

+3 Booker
+2 Warren
+1 Len/Chandler

-3 Knight
-2 Tucker
-1 Barbosa