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Who do you THINK gets moved before the Deadline?

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:27 pm
by ImNotMcDiSwear
If you'd like, explain the reason for your vote. I'll postpone my own for a day to avoid setting any sort of tone...

Could only have 10 poll options, so I removed the KY Best Friends Club and all our minimum salary guys.

Re: Who do you THINK gets moved before the Deadline?

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:40 pm
by WeekapaugGroove
Tucker is the most obvious. Small expiring contract who could help a playoff team and the price tag should be reasonable.

I think they would love to trade knight but hes played so poorly i dont know if anyone would want him.

They should trade tyson and bledsoe if the return was decent.

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Re: Who do you THINK gets moved before the Deadline?

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:49 pm
by OGBAH
Watson is trying to win games...probably no one gets traded

Re: Who do you THINK gets moved before the Deadline?

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:58 pm
by RaisingArizona
Knight and Tucker for sure. Len maybe. Somebody will be traded that will surprise us like Bender if a trade for a star happens.

Re: Who do you THINK gets moved before the Deadline?

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:01 pm
by ImNotMcDiSwear
This chart is starting to resemble a giant middle finger... that was unintentional.

Re: Who do you THINK gets moved before the Deadline?

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:02 pm
by DirtyDez
OGBAH wrote:Watson is trying to win games...probably no one gets traded


Every coach is trying to win games. Trades still happen.

Besides Pop, Doc and SVG I'm not sure anyone has complete control of player personnel... Thibbs?

Re: Who do you THINK gets moved before the Deadline?

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:07 pm
by ImNotMcDiSwear
The most recent BSOTS podcast mentions a discussion with McD in which it was disclosed that McD gets calls about Tucker and Chandler "all the time".

I can imagine that we keep both, though, for different reasons. Tucker, because McD generally does not trade players for less than a first, and he won't get that for Tucker. Chandler, because of Alex's situation, though he may conclude that he owes to Tyson to put him on a competitive team.

The thing that sucks is, the only chance we have to become a competitive and enjoyable team to watch this year is by handing the keys over to Tyler. No, that won't get us into the playoffs this year. Yes, it will make us better. No, it's not going to happen.

On balance, I think Chandler goes. If teams want him, all he's got to do is say "I want out." My guess is he'll say it.

Re: Who do you THINK gets moved before the Deadline?

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:01 pm
by Damkac
I choose Knight, Tucker and Chandler as the most likely. I hope at least 2 first will be moved.
Personally I would trade everyone older than 23 except Dudley and maybe Barbosa. That include Bledsoe who I don't view as future pg of the Suns. I don't trust his knees and I'm not impressed with his playmaking skills. Better trade him to team in win-now mode when he averages 20-5-5 than keep him until he will lose all athleticism.
Trade vets, give Bender, Chriss and Ulis minutes to develop, give Len minutes to decide is he worth keeping and #fallforBall ;)

Re: Who do you THINK gets moved before the Deadline?

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:27 am
by lilfishi22
I think Knight is the most logical choice. He plays a position that's already quite crowded. Chandler and Tucker are both candidates but their position is not crowded and if they were to go, we would be quite thin at the 3 and 5 and possibly 4.

Re: Who do you THINK gets moved before the Deadline?

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:52 am
by nbafan341
Id say knight and tucker for sure. Id say bledsoe but I think a lot of ppl will lowball offers and it might not be possible to get fair value for his production. Chandler also presents a possibility as many teams,including my raptors, could definitely use him

Re: Who do you THINK gets moved before the Deadline?

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:11 pm
by Jarlaxle0204
I think Knight is the smartest move here. He seems unhappy, he's playing poorly, and not a good fit for our team. I think what might hold this one up would be McD needing to save face and wanting to get value but not being able to get it.

I think we could trade Tyson if he really wanted out of here but there have not been any signs of that and the reports are actually to the contrary.

I don't think we'll trade Tucker. In fact, I imagine we'll resign him this off season (to the chagrin of many here).

Re: Who do you THINK gets moved before the Deadline?

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:09 pm
by TeamTragic
We immediately went for Knight (i.e. middle finger). I just think we move Tucker and Len.

Re: Who do you THINK gets moved before the Deadline?

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:58 am
by ImNotMcDiSwear
Just switched my vote from Knight to Bled. So it's Bled, Chandler and Tucker for me.

No idea whom we'll acquire in return, but I expect we'll get a solid long-term back-up swing in return.

Re: Who do you THINK gets moved before the Deadline?

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 5:02 am
by bwgood77
cosmofizzo wrote:Just switched my vote from Knight to Bled. So it's Bled, Chandler and Tucker for me.

No idea whom we'll acquire in return, but I expect we'll get a solid long-term back-up swing in return.


Why? Just because Knight played well recently and Bledsoe could probably get a bigger return? I like Bledsoe much more than Knight, but more importantly, I just don't think they have any desire to trade Bledsoe.

Re: Who do you THINK gets moved before the Deadline?

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 5:14 am
by ImNotMcDiSwear
bwgood77 wrote:
cosmofizzo wrote:Just switched my vote from Knight to Bled. So it's Bled, Chandler and Tucker for me.

No idea whom we'll acquire in return, but I expect we'll get a solid long-term back-up swing in return.


Why? Just because Knight played well recently and Bledsoe could probably get a bigger return? I like Bledsoe much more than Knight, but more importantly, I just don't think they have any desire to trade Bledsoe.


You may be right. But yes, that's basically my reasoning. Too many point guards, one's value is too low right now, so you trade the other. Because why not? You know you have a mess and you know you have to clean it up somehow. Right now, where we are as a team and where our players are in terms of their performance and their careers, it's Bledsoe I'd move. We're bad fits for each other.

I put it another way: Say you had our current roster, except you didn't Knight. Would you add Knight? No. It's a bad fit. Now say that instead, you didn't have Bledsoe. Same answer, right? He's not what the team needs. He's a good player, but would we be willing to shell out more than any other team for him? I doubt it, because there are bound to be teams who are a better fit.

I also consider that Brandon is younger, has a longer term deal, and there's some smidgen of hope that he could do better as a starter (after all, he was a bit better last year). Either way, we all would prefer to pick up a PG in the upcoming draft, so you clear your logjam a bit by selling one of them.

I vote the one who could get us something in return. I vote trade Bledsoe. In the past, the FO and I have been on the same page. Who knows if the same is true for this one.

Re: Who do you THINK gets moved before the Deadline?

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 5:25 am
by bwgood77
cosmofizzo wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
cosmofizzo wrote:Just switched my vote from Knight to Bled. So it's Bled, Chandler and Tucker for me.

No idea whom we'll acquire in return, but I expect we'll get a solid long-term back-up swing in return.


Why? Just because Knight played well recently and Bledsoe could probably get a bigger return? I like Bledsoe much more than Knight, but more importantly, I just don't think they have any desire to trade Bledsoe.


You may be right. But yes, that's basically my reasoning. Too many point guards, one's value is too low right now, so you trade the other. Because why not? You know you have a mess and you know you have to clean it up somehow. Right now, where we are as a team and where our players are in terms of their performance and their careers, it's Bledsoe I'd move. We're bad fits for each other.

I put it another way: Say you had our current roster, except you didn't Knight. Would you add Knight? No. It's a bad fit. Now say that instead, you didn't have Bledsoe. Same answer, right? He's not what the team needs. He's a good player, but would we be willing to shell out more than any other team for him? I doubt it, because there are bound to be teams who are a better fit.

I also consider that Brandon is younger, has a longer term deal, and there's some smidgen of hope that he could do better as a starter (after all, he was a bit better last year). Either way, we all would prefer to pick up a PG in the upcoming draft, so you clear your logjam a bit by selling one of them.

I vote the one who could get us something in return. I vote trade Bledsoe. In the past, the FO and I have been on the same page. Who knows if the same is true for this one.


We might overestimate what he could get us in return, considering he has a serious injury history, the draft is deep and other teams have multiple good point guards like Minnesota.

He also only has two years on his contract after this year, so I think we should draft one, maybe assess trade value at the 2018 deadline, when he still has one and a half years on his contract, so not a huge risk with injuries then, and maybe Ulis and/or drafted PG can take over, and if he is healthy we get more value since there is less risk and he doesn't have much money left on is contract. If he is injured maybe we get an injury exception or can amnesty him if there is that option in new CBA. Knight needs to go because he doesn't add anything consistently that helps other players get going. He won't contribute to winning too many games.

Re: Who do you THINK gets moved before the Deadline?

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 8:41 am
by DaleyBlind
Tucker/Knight have to be traded. Chandler would be a bonus if the deal is right

Re: Who do you THINK gets moved before the Deadline?

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:23 am
by alldayeveryday
All my cousins/friends that are from the Bay Area want Chandler. I told them logically speaking if that were to happen there would need to be another team involved for the Suns to pull the trigger. Is there something on the Dubs roster we want that is actually possible?

Re: Who do you THINK gets moved before the Deadline?

Posted: Sun Jan 1, 2017 6:36 am
by ImNotMcDiSwear
Bump. PJ Tucker loses a vote. Jared Dudley gains one. Explain things I cannot.

Re: Who do you THINK gets moved before the Deadline?

Posted: Mon Jan 2, 2017 3:35 pm
by Zelaznyrules
cosmofizzo wrote:Bump. PJ Tucker loses a vote. Jared Dudley gains one. Explain things I cannot.


Maybe I'm seeing things but it looks to me that Dudley has gained a few pounds and it cost him a quarter step and that's one guy that can't afford to lose any speed at all. And Tucker has gradually become less effective this season than he has been the past 2. He still plays far too many minutes for his output but at least he's no longer looking like the worst rotation player in the NBA.