Most Disappointing Part of 16-17

ImNotMcDiSwear · Post #1 » by **ImNotMcDiSwear** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:44 pm

Year's not over, but... it sort of is. There are a lot of contenders here. I don't think everyone on this list is a disappointment, but others are bound to feel differently. And I guess it all depends on what your expectations were coming in.

Have at it...

Mr Puddles · Post #2 » by **Mr Puddles** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:56 pm

Easily Brandon Knight. I had high hopes for him becoming a Jason Terry type of player off the bench, on paper that role looks perfect for him.

Post #3 » by **Qwigglez** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:11 pm

Gotta agree with Brandon Knight. I did not expect such a poor performance from him. I was at least expecting 14-15 points a game on 43-44 FG%. Not sure why he couldn't adapt to this role.
Alex Len and TJ Warren are tied for 2nd. Len I was hoping he'd have a bigger role on the team but Chandler is playing so great that Len can't find time. Partly Len's fault for not stepping up, but I had higher hopes for him. Warren started the year off great, and I kind of predicted he could play that well. I didn't anticipate his defense being up there though. After his head injury it's like he forgot how to play basketball. I still think both of these guys can become key pieces to our rebuild so I haven't give up on them just yet.

m1chal · Post #4 » by **m1chal** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:25 pm

Knight is a no-brainer here, so I went with Len ;-)

I just expected more and Alex hasn't delivered so far. Inconsistency, dumb decisions and then a really good game and when you think he finally got it, soon after that it all starts anew.

ImNotMcDiSwear · Post #5 » by **ImNotMcDiSwear** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:55 pm

My vote is Warren. I really thought he would emerge as a cornerstone this season. I had him pegged as a part of the core. Now, I doubt it.

Whereas BK was never going to be a part of the core and my expectations for Len had already been tempered, I had high expectations for TJ - and his failure to step up really does set this franchise back. So for me, this is a no-brainer.

Jarlaxle0204 · Post #6 » by **Jarlaxle0204** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:05 pm

I actually thought coming off the bench as a microwave scorer against 2nd units was going to be good for Knight and us. Boy, was I wrong. I had him pegged as a 6th man of the year candidate.

carey · Post #7 » by **carey** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:12 pm

McDonough. He built this ship and is standing on the docks watching it sink 100 yards out of the harbor. Maybe he should do something to fix it?

carey · Post #8 » by **carey** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:14 pm

cosmofizzo wrote:My vote is Warren. I really thought he would emerge as a cornerstone this season. I had him pegged as a part of the core. Now, I doubt it.

I think Warren should be exempt until we know exactly what this mysterious injury was. He was damn near averaging 19ppg before his injury & playing great defense. Something isn't right & I really hope it isn't a Zarko situation.

jcsunsfan · Post #9 » by **jcsunsfan** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:27 pm

Brandon Knight by far. He had his chance to be a super sub off the bench, but his play has been horrible.

I think McD is doing and excellent job as GM. He has made a few mistakes but most of what he has done has been solid. There really isn't much better out there. I think the expectations are a bit unreasonable.

ImNotMcDiSwear · Post #10 » by **ImNotMcDiSwear** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:42 pm

carey wrote:
cosmofizzo wrote:My vote is Warren. I really thought he would emerge as a cornerstone this season. I had him pegged as a part of the core. Now, I doubt it.

I think Warren should be exempt until we know exactly what this mysterious injury was. He was damn near averaging 19ppg before his injury & playing great defense. Something isn't right & I really hope it isn't a Zarko situation.

I don't think that's reasonable; I am disappointed. The reason for my disappointment doesn't seem particularly relevant. If the team plane were to crash, I wouldn't say that I'm not disappointed if I found out that the pilot and the mechanic did everything they could. Regardless the reason, TJ's my biggest disappointment so far.

carey wrote:McDonough. He built this ship and is standing on the docks watching it sink 100 yards out of the harbor. Maybe he should do something to fix it?

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darealjuice · Post #11 » by **darealjuice** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:45 pm

carey wrote:McDonough. He built this ship and is standing on the docks watching it sink 100 yards out of the harbor. Maybe he should do something to fix it?

This ship was never going to sail unless guys like Knight, Len, and TJ seriously stepped up to the plate for the entire season, and they sure didn't. This roster just isn't built to win games right now. We start 2 players that are 20 or younger and another that's only 23, still don't have a legit starting power forward until our 2 19 year olds start to develop more, even Booker was struggling at times this year, and our play at small forward has also been below average since TJ got hurt. TJ had a really good start to the season, but after whatever that head injury was he's struggled to return to that form, while Knight has just been pure disappointment all season after being hyped as a possible 6MOY candidate through preseason. I think it's way too early to be upset McD hasn't made moves. There's no real rush when we're losing games regardless, the trade deadline is only in a few weeks, and he's given plenty of indication that something will happen.

As for me, I feel like the obvious vote is Knight. He went from being talked about as a 6th man of the year candidate to losing minutes to a second round rookies and an aging Barbosa before even half the season had passed. Even my girlfriend thinks he sucks, and she knows next to nothing about basketball. I can't vote TJ because he had to deal with that mysterious injury and want taken out of the loop for a good amount of time after starting the season hot, and I can't vote for Len because I never had expectations for him to begin with.

Post #12 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:53 pm

carey wrote:
cosmofizzo wrote:My vote is Warren. I really thought he would emerge as a cornerstone this season. I had him pegged as a part of the core. Now, I doubt it.

I think Warren should be exempt until we know exactly what this mysterious injury was. He was damn near averaging 19ppg before his injury & playing great defense. Something isn't right & I really hope it isn't a Zarko situation.

I totally agree here. The man was on fire early and among the league leaders in steals. He should be a part of the core. Even if it's just 6th or 7th rotation guy.

As far as the season goes, I thought Knight would be better, but I'm not surprised, as he did this last year too.

But as a whole, I am pretty happy with the season. I expected us to be among the 3 worst (or maybe 4th worst), we will have to check prediction thread, but the encouraging thing is seeing more of the rookies for me. That may have hurt us in the win/loss thing, but that's not a bad thing either because they higher the pick, the better the long term future as long as the right pick is made.

nashrambler13 · Post #13 » by **nashrambler13** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:38 pm

This was way tougher than I thought it would be. At first I just took it as "worst", which, of course Brandon Knight. He's been an embarrassment and is now worth nothing. To be fair though, I was not expecting him to be THAT much better than he has been, he has been nothing but garbage for the most part anyways?

So, from least disappointing to most disappointing...

9 (least): The Gorilla: Stellar work as always.
8: Booker: Had some rough patches, but this dude is figuring it out again. The %s are on the upswing, and to be the main focus of a team at 20 and average 20 is just impressive, 42.3% shooting or not. Plus, like I said, the %s are on the upswing. I think he'll be at 45% and 38% from 3 by the end of the year. Unless we trade Bled, in which case, things might get rough for a bit.
7: Ryan McDonough: I am pleased with where we are to be honest. I think we are in position to have an incredible young nucleus, and I think drafting young is going to pay off. This is not to say he's been perfect, but compared to everyone else on this list...
6/5 (tie): Bender and Chriss: I expected more from Bender, but they have both been "trash"-- I am still very encouraged by both of their progress and play though, so if I'm being realistic: "not very disappointed".
4: TJ Warren: Started off great, and then has been pretty bad. He gets a pass for sure bc of the mystery injury, but he has still been more disappointing than the rest. If for no other reason, bc I am still not sure of his durability-- this dude is hurt a lot in really random ways, that certainly isn't a GOOD sign. It could be fine, but I was reallyyy hoping for a full season.
3: BK: I voted for BK in the poll but I have no idea why? I didn't expect him to be good, I expected him to be gone. And I am certainly not disappointed in his TC skills. He has for sure been the worst, and now has no value (like I said above) but not super "disappointing".
2: Earl: It just blows that there were better coaches out there and we had to hire Earl because he was so well-loved. The culture is nice, and I see that he has some value for sure, but looking back, I am disappointed in his hiring. He can still turn it around though, I think.
1 (most): Alex Len: I'm as surprised as anyone, but I am most disappointed in Alex Len?? The dude is just hot garbage, and he doesn't deserve anything right now. I legit am not even rooting for him to take Tyson's spot anymore: I know he can't. Right now, he is not the Center of the Future for us, IMO. Him turning it around would be, at this point, a shock.

I'll def revisit this at the end of the year though, cool thread.

nashrambler13 · Post #14 » by **nashrambler13** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:41 pm

bwgood77 wrote:But as a whole, I am pretty happy with the season. I expected us to be among the 3 worst (or maybe 4th worst), we will have to check prediction thread, but the encouraging thing is seeing more of the rookies for me. That may have hurt us in the win/loss thing, but that's not a bad thing either because they higher the pick, the better the long term future as long as the right pick is made.

Forgot to mention this, but yeah- for all the disappointments, I am far more encouraged by this season than discouraged. For the most part, it has been super fun to watch, and I'm glad I have the Suns (and hell, the forum again*) to distract me from the dumpster fire that is the world right now.

*Just recently saw the new "nickname" thing I've got, v happy about it hahaha

sleepyvato · Post #15 » by **sleepyvato** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:56 pm

I voted Knight, not because I'm disappointed in his absolutely garbage play but because I'm disappointed that he's still on the roster.

RaisingArizona · Post #16 » by **RaisingArizona** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:27 pm

So many disappointments so little choices.

carey · Post #17 » by **carey** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:38 pm

cosmofizzo wrote:
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Damkac · Post #18 » by **Damkac** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:48 pm

cosmofizzo wrote:My vote is Warren. I really thought he would emerge as a cornerstone this season. I had him pegged as a part of the core. Now, I doubt it.

Whereas BK was never going to be a part of the core and my expectations for Len had already been tempered, I had high expectations for TJ - and his failure to step up really does set this franchise back. So for me, this is a no-brainer.

Same here.

I feared that Knight will be mad about losing starting 5 spot and we will have another Markieff situation. But he isn't complaining so I'm not disappointed with him

kennydorglas · Post #19 » by **kennydorglas** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:57 pm

I'm disappointed for whoever is this new TJ Warren.

Zelaznyrules · Post #20 » by **Zelaznyrules** » Wed Feb 1, 2017 8:36 am

Knight. Had Brandon played to the loftier expectations (serious 6th man of the year candidate) we're probably looking at a February trade to bolster our chances of moving in front of the Clippers. Had Brandon just played like your typical 6th man off the bench, I think we'd be playing roughly .500 ball and looking like the Warriors first playoff victim this season. As it is, with Knight playing like he's one of the worst players in the NBA, we're looking like a good bet for a top 3 draft pick. So yeah, Knight, unless you think there's a Tim Duncan, Kobe Bryant and Lebron James in this draft. In which case, long live the Tank Commander.

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