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Suns centers

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:30 am
by Damkac
Who of them you want to keep?

Re: Suns centers

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:03 am
by Mulhollanddrive
dont think it makes any difference tbh.

Re: Suns centers

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:10 am
by sunskerr
Len for the right price. He's, imo, serviceable although he'll never be a top level player I think. If he plays starters minutes I think we would view him like a Robin Lopez-level player. If he wants anything more than whatever the FO thinks he's worth though, then quickly move on from him.

Alan Williams keep.

I think Monroe is who he is. There's no point bringing him back because his defense really is as bad as everyone (including Bucks fans) was saying it is. There are other plodding bigs who managed to develop skills to defend better (Zaza, Kanter) and shoot the three (Vucevic,Cousins, many more)...But Monroe hasn't developed that. In fact, he's never even shown signs that he's tried to improve in those areas. So pass on him.

Tyson Chandler is old and and it shows every now and then. But he's on the books unfortunately for another year after this so we're stuck with him unless a team wants an expiring in a trade next season.

Re: Suns centers

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:50 am
by bwgood77
I picked Williams. A lot depends on the draft and we will probably have Tyson anyway unless we want to give up an asset to move him (though his expiring might be a desirable asset next year). I wouldn't totally mind Len but he can be frustrating. He still gobbles up boards and gets blocks so I wouldn't mind him for cheap as I've always said but I can't really say I "want him" here.

Williams is good for chemistry, as a teammate, energy, big effort guy, etc, so definitely at his price.

Re: Suns centers

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:42 am
by kennydorglas
Big Sauce & DeAndre Ayton

Re: Suns centers

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:03 pm
by Damkac
I voted for Chandler and Williams. Young players needs veteran presence and Chandler seems to be OK with being on rebuilding team. Willaims is cheap rotation player with great energy and enthusiasm.

Len is the definition of mediocrity and could be replaced easily in free agency.

Re: Suns centers

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:55 pm
by wheezy
Damkac wrote:I voted for Chandler and Williams. Young players needs veteran presence and Chandler seems to be OK with being on rebuilding team. Willaims is cheap rotation player with great energy and enthusiasm.

Len is the definition of mediocrity and could be replaced easily in free agency.


Same here. Both of those guys seem to bring something to the table, even when they're not playing, that the other guys don't, i.e. leadership, support, and energy. Also both of them seem to actually like being here.

Re: Suns centers

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:05 am
by lilfishi22
I haven't seen a big man brick as many under the basket shots as Len. He's got some of the worst feel around the basket in the league. I mean, he's got a great attitude (even when he only plays 10mpg), I know he's a hard worker in practice and an overall good team mate but his lack of an offensive touch is really the only thing that keeps him from being a starter quality big man. The guy finds a way to miss a lay up against a PG defender...

I want to keep him but I find it really hard to fathom him sticking around for a bargain contract or ever developing a touch around the rim.

Re: Suns centers

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:27 pm
by garrick
Alan is cheap and a good rebounder but the scouting reports are probably out on him now that he can't finish strong at the rim and he's a poor short blocker.

Still he is on a cheap contract and good as your 3rd center off the bench.

I like Len for what he is and he might never be a starting center but at least he can rebound and shoot FTs at a decent clip, Tyson is already starting to drop off so I think he needs to go and Monroe provides a low post scoring option which we haven't had in awhile.

Re: Suns centers

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:46 pm
by Neal25
Tyson Chandler and Alan Williams. Tyson is a good pro and Phoenix needs some vets to teach to the young players. Alan Williams has a cheap contract and is a decent backup C. Monroe is obvious that he will go before trade deadline and Len needs a change. In the future Chriss and even Bender will play as C.

Re: Suns centers

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:40 pm
by Damkac
Bender may play as C but Chriss is too small imo.

Re: Suns centers

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:24 am
by nevetsov
This year:
Monroe, Len, Chandler

Next year:
Ayton, Williams, Chandler

Re: Suns centers

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:06 pm
by Neal25
Damkac wrote:Bender may play as C but Chriss is too small imo.

Chriss
Listed height 6 ft 10 in (2.08 m)
Listed weight 240 lb (109 kg)

Re: Suns centers

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:22 pm
by lilfishi22
Neal25 wrote:
Damkac wrote:Bender may play as C but Chriss is too small imo.

Chriss
Listed height 6 ft 10 in (2.08 m)
Listed weight 240 lb (109 kg)

Chriss got that long neck 6'10, like Kieff and Bosh. If he had a normal length neck, he's probably like 6'9. Having a long neck doesn't really give you more basketball impacting length. I think his 6'10 listed height is deceptive.

Bender, on the hand, is a legit 7 footer. Dude was almost 7ft without shoes in 2015 as an 18yo. Doesn't have the same weight as Chriss but length (height and wing span) makes up for a lot of that in today's NBA where big 270-280lb 4's and 5's aren't the norm anymore.

Re: Suns centers

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:15 am
by MathiasPW
You need smarts and/or experience as a Center nowadays to guide your perimeter defense and switches. Chris is not abundant in any of those.