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All Star Weekend

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:06 am
by bwgood77
Who will be the Rising Stars MVP?

I was going to use the espn "expert" picks for the poll options, but I decided to take out Bogdanovic and add Ingram and Tatum

I could see Kuzma or Mitchell doing it.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22441917/experts-picks-every-all-star-weekend-event-nba

Spoiler:
Experts' Picks: Rising Stars
RISING STARS
WINNER RISING STARS
MVP
Micah
Adams USA Kyle Kuzma
Kevin
Arnovitz World Jamal Murray
Ian
Begley USA Ben Simmons
Nick
DePaula World Ben Simmons
Jeremias
Engelmann World Ben Simmons
Chris
Forsberg World Ben Simmons
Andrew
Han World Lauri Markkanen
Baxter
Holmes World Ben Simmons
Tim
MacMahon World Joel Embiid
Bobby
Marks World Bogdan Bogdanovic
Dave
McMenamin USA Joel Embiid
Kevin
Pelton World Ben Simmons
Marc
Spears USA Dennis Smith Jr.
Brian
Windhorst World Buddy Hield
Michael
Wright World Ben Simmons
Royce
Young USA Donovan Mitchell
Ohm
Youngmisuk World Ben Simmons


https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-all-star-weekend-2018-ranking-every-player-in-the-rising-stars-challenge/

Spoiler:
RANKING EVERY PLAYER IN THE RISING STARS GAME

1 Joel Embiid
PHILADELPHIA 76ERS C
2017-18 stats: 23.7 points, 11.1 rebounds, 3.1 assists

Pretty easy one here, since Embiid is the only player in the game who's also an All-Star (and a starter, at that). His ceiling is also higher than any other player in the Rising Stars game, provided that he can stay healthy, so he easily claims the top spot.

2 Donovan Mitchell
UTAH JAZZ SG
2017-18 stats: 19.6 points, 3.5 rebounds, 3.5 assists

It's certainly close between Mitchell and Ben Simmons, but what Mitchell has shown us over the last few weeks has been truly extraordinary. Forget projecting him into the future, he's already proven that he can carry a potential playoff team offensively -- something rookies and second-year players can't often do.

3 Ben Simmons
PHILADELPHIA 76ERS PG
2017-18 stats: 16.4 points, 7.8 rebounds, 7.3 assists

It really comes down to this between Simmons and Mitchell: It's really hard to name something obvious that Mitchell CAN'T do on the court, whereas Simmons' flaw is glaring. The 6-foot-10 point guard has been great this season and is a borderline All-Star, but the fact that he can't shoot -- like, at all -- takes him down a notch.

4 Jayson Tatum
BOSTON CELTICS SF
2017-18 stats: 13.5 points, 5.1 rebounds, 1.4 assists

Despite some recent shooting struggles, Tatum has been consistent all year on both sides of the ball for the Celtics, who have been the top team in the Eastern Conference for most of the season. He's the fourth-best player in the Rising Stars game right now, and the 19-year-old has plenty of potential still to be unfurled.

5 Jamal Murray
DENVER NUGGETS PG
2017-18 stats: 16.5 points, 3.5 rebounds, 2.9 assists

Murray has really come into his own over the past few months, and is proving to be an explosive scorer capable of dropping 30 on any given night. He needs to work on his consistency and defense, but the Nuggets are a tremendous offensive team when he's got it going.

6 Jaylen Brown
BOSTON CELTICS SG
2017-18 stats: 14.0 points, 5.4 rebounds, 1.6 assists

Brown certainly isn't a perfect player, but he has fit into the Celtics system with an increased offensive role due to Gordon Hayward's absence. His near-40 percent 3-point shooting has been a pleasant surprise.

7 Brandon Ingram
LOS ANGELES LAKERS SF
2017-18 stats: 16.2 points, 5.2 rebounds, 3.7 assists

The jury's still out on what kind of player Ingram will become, but right now he's a pretty good scorer who you can plug into most starting lineups in the NBA. He's played well when running the point with Lonzo Ball out, which has showcased a playmaking ability we hadn't consistently seen before.

8 Dario Saric
PHILADELPHIA 76ERS PF
2017-18 stats: 14.7 points, 6.9 rebounds, 2.7 assists

Often an overlooked member of The Process, Saric has been great for the Sixers this season. He's averaged almost 15 points per game while shooting nearly 40 percent 3-pointers and pulling down seven rebounds per game. You know what you're getting from Saric on a nightly basis, which is important for a young team.

9 Kyle Kuzma
LOS ANGELES LAKERS PF
2017-18 stats: 15.7 points, 5.9 rebounds, 1.8 assists

Kuzma still lacks development in other areas, but he's proven that at the very least he's a heat-check scorer off the bench. As he starts to implement more playmaking on offense and hopefully starts to play better defense, his ceiling could keep rising.

10 Dennis Smith Jr.
DALLAS MAVERICKS PG
2017-18 stats: 14.8 points, 3.9 rebounds, 4.9 assists

He's incredibly inefficient and he frustrates Rick Carlisle to no end on some nights, but there's no denying Smith's game-changing ability. He needs to work on shot selection and limiting turnovers, but the potential is definitely there to be the Mavericks' franchise point guard for years to come.

11 Lauri Markkanen
CHICAGO BULLS PF
2017-18 stats: 15.3 points, 7.7 rebounds, 1.3 assists

Markkanen's quick development has been a great surprise for the Baby Bulls. He's done what everyone thought he could do -- shoot -- but his offensive versatility and rebounding are already ahead of schedule.

12 De'Aaron Fox
SACRAMENTO KINGS PG
2017-18 stats: 11.3 points, 2.6 rebounds, 4.3 assists

Fox has seen an uptick in production since the Kings traded away George Hill -- a clear sign that the team now belongs to the young point guard. His shooting has been terrible, but his quickness and ability to get to the rim could one day approach elite levels.

13 Kris Dunn
CHICAGO BULLS PG
2017-18 stats: 13.5 points, 4.6 rebounds, 6.3 assists

Dunn has come into his own with increased playing time and responsibility for a young Chicago team. He's still not shooting the ball well, but he's proven that he can do other things on the court that make his team better.

14 Bogdan Bogdanovic
SACRAMENTO KINGS SG
2017-18 stats: 11.5 points, 2.7 rebounds, 3.2 assists

Bogdanovic has come on since becoming a starter in Sacramento. He's already proving to be a good shooter (46 percent from the field, 40 percent from 3), but also has playmaking ability that has started to come out more recently. At 25 years old, his potential for improvement isn't quite as high as some of the other guys on this list, but he's already a good player.

15 Domantas Sabonis
INDIANA PACERS C
2017-18 stats: 12.1 points, 8.2 rebounds, 2.2 assists

After shooting two 3-pointers per game last season with the Thunder, Sabonis has taken his game inside the arc and appears to much more comfortable. He's a talented low-post scorer and rebounder, but his value would skyrocket if he were able to extend his range out beyond the 3-point line.

16 Buddy Hield
SACRAMENTO KINGS SG
2017-18 stats: 12.5 points, 3.4 rebounds, 1.5 assists

Hield has been asked to be a bench scorer for the Kings for most of the season, and he's been pretty good. He's making over two 3-pointers per game and shooting 43 percent, which borders on elite. There are still questions about the rest of his game, but it appears at the very least he's going to be in the league a long time because of his shooting ability.

17 John Collins
ATLANTA HAWKS PF
2017-18 stats: 10.2 points, 7.0 rebounds, 1.0 assists

Collins is a stat machine when he's in the game, an incredibly active rebounder who can finish around the rim (evidenced by his 58 percent field-goal shooting). He's beginning to stretch his range out to the 3-point line, which adds intrigue to his offensive game. He's a solid shot-blocker, but he still struggles defensively.

18 Taurean Waller-Prince
ATLANTA HAWKS SF
2017-18 stats: 12.2 points, 4.7 rebounds, 2.3 assists

Prince showed some offensive flashes last season, but hasn't really taken the step forward this season that the Hawks were hoping that he would. His per-36 minute numbers are nearly identical to last season, although he is shooting 3-pointers better at 37 percent.

19 Dillon Brooks
MEMPHIS GRIZZLIES SF
2017-18 stats: 9.0 points, 3.1 rebounds, 1.3 assists

Brooks was a dominant scorer in college and has been solid for a struggling Grizzlies team, shooting 45 percent from the field and 37 percent on 3-pointers. The potential may not be as high as other players, but Brooks would be a consistent rotation player for most teams in the league.

20 Frank Ntilikina
NEW YORK KNICKS PG
2017-18 stats: 5.2 points, 2.0 rebounds, 3.2 assists

It's still very early to judge Ntilikina as a player, but he's shown flashes of being a solid playmaker with strong defensive potential. His shooting has been atrocious, so it's tough to rank him highly on this list.

Re: Who will win the Rising Stars MVP?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:05 am
by RaptorsLife
Murray again

Re: Who will win the Rising Stars MVP?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:07 am
by Dominator83
The better question is who will actually watch it? The defense is non existent in that game. My team actually has 2 guys in it and I'm still not intrigued

Re: Who will win the Rising Stars MVP?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:08 am
by Feel_the_Heat15
Fultz.

Re: Who will win the Rising Stars MVP?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:10 am
by draftbarnes
Lonzo ball

Re: Who will win the Rising Stars MVP?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:11 am
by xxSnEaKyPxx
Considering Domantas Sabonis is the father to the rest of the players, I'mma say him.

Re: Who will win the Rising Stars MVP?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:02 am
by bwgood77
If someone told me before the season Josh Jackson wouldn't even be selected for this game, I wouldn't have believed it.

Re: Who will win the Rising Stars MVP?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:08 am
by Cappy_Smurf
It's gonna be a world player. This US team is everybody for themselves. Come down and jack a 3, and make sure not to pass because you don't want to help someone score more points than you.

Really though, the way this game is being played, MVP is pretty trivial. The MVP of grabass basketball.


My pick is Bogdanovic. Dude is on fire.

Re: Who will win the Rising Stars MVP?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:08 am
by 3Diamantidis
bwgood77 wrote:If someone told me before the season Josh Jackson wouldn't even be selected for this game, I wouldn't have believed it.



Jackson isn't selected?
I've just noticed that. :o

Re: Who will win the Rising Stars MVP?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:33 am
by thamadkant
Seeing the way Chriss is now... So regret trading Bogdanovic for him...

Re: Who will win the Rising Stars MVP?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:52 am
by JJ_PR
You didn't list the actual winner in the poll.

Re: Who will win the Rising Stars MVP?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:01 am
by SamSepiol
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Poll backfired.

Re: Who will win the Rising Stars MVP?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:05 am
by Bologna Smasher
Very happy to see Hield and Bogdanovic dominate the game!

Re: Who will win the Rising Stars MVP?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:33 am
by Sactowndog
Poll complete fail!! Kind of like the Rookie of the year poll which has no mention of Bogdanovich

Re: Who will win the Rising Stars MVP?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:36 am
by NBAFan93
bwgood77 wrote:If someone told me before the season Josh Jackson wouldn't even be selected for this game, I wouldn't have believed it.


Yeah - he certainly hasn’t lived up to expectations - could be him, or could be the system that he’s in...who knows. And just think - they didn’t want to give him up in order to get Kyrie.

Re: Who will win the Rising Stars MVP?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:50 am
by kodo
NBAFan93 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:If someone told me before the season Josh Jackson wouldn't even be selected for this game, I wouldn't have believed it.


Yeah - he certainly hasn’t lived up to expectations - could be him, or could be the system that he’s in...who knows. And just think - they didn’t want to give him up in order to get Kyrie.


Also refused Jimmy Butler for that pick.

Re: Who will win the Rising Stars MVP?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:53 am
by 711takeover
Brown wasn't an option for this poll?

Re: Who will win the Rising Stars MVP?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:10 am
by Pelon chingon
Bogie stole the show!

Re: Who will win the Rising Stars MVP?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:25 am
by Cappy_Smurf
711takeover wrote:Brown wasn't an option for this poll?


Nope

Re: Who will win the Rising Stars MVP?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:42 am
by THE J0KER
bwgood77 wrote:...
RANKING EVERY PLAYER IN THE RISING STARS GAME
...

14 Bogdan Bogdanovic
SACRAMENTO KINGS SG
2017-18 stats: 11.5 points, 2.7 rebounds, 3.2 assists

Bogdanovic has come on since becoming a starter in Sacramento. He's already proving to be a good shooter (46 percent from the field, 40 percent from 3), but also has playmaking ability that has started to come out more recently. At 25 years old, his potential for improvement isn't quite as high as some of the other guys on this list, but he's already a good player.
...
Ranking Bogdanovic as #14 in this match based on his 11-2.5-3 stats is wrong. Since December he is Kings starter and his numbers are better 13-3-4 with amazing 60%TS%.