The Draft (Postseason Edition): 1/16/31/59 (NEW POLL)

[lilfishi22]

You guys talk about weight with bamba, and I agree he will have to put on some weight but guys like Marcus Camby, Tyson Chandler, Whiteside are all examples of skinny dudes have success in the NBA. I don't think weight is as much of an issue in today's NBA. And then theres the fact that he lives in the Tree canopys.

I don't think there's much comparison. Whiteside is a giant dude, like well over 260lbs (he's listed at 265lb). Camby and Tyson were both over 240 and closer to 250. These might "look" skinny but they are strong as hell and were also long as well. A lot of that weight and strength comes from the lower half. I agree weight isn't as much of an issues these days without many high level post up threats and it is really strength and length that's the key. The problem is his extremely poor lower body strength.

- Very poor lower body strength. Gets put under the basket by bigs that aren’t particularly heavy. How will he deal with Jokic/Embiid types in the post?
- Rarely boxes out on defense. Will have to do that in NBA as bigger interior players will push him around on the inside.
- Doesn’t always finish plays on defense. Sometimes seems content after getting a block rather than chasing down rebound or recovering to contest another shot.
- Not very physical as a screen setter. More concerned with trying to float open for three-point looks than setting good screens.

[bwgood77]

You guys talk about weight with bamba, and I agree he will have to put on some weight but guys like Marcus Camby, Tyson Chandler, Whiteside are all examples of skinny dudes have success in the NBA. I don't think weight is as much of an issue in today's NBA. And then theres the fact that he lives in the Tree canopys.

I don't think there's much comparison. Whiteside is a giant dude, like well over 260lbs (he's listed at 265lb). Camby and Tyson were both over 240 and closer to 250. These might "look" skinny but they are strong as hell and were also long as well. A lot of that weight and strength comes from the lower half. I agree weight isn't as much of an issues these days without many high level post up threats and it is really strength and length that's the key. The problem is his extremely poor lower body strength.

I don't think much of Tyson's strength or weight comes from lower half.

[lilfishi22]

You guys talk about weight with bamba, and I agree he will have to put on some weight but guys like Marcus Camby, Tyson Chandler, Whiteside are all examples of skinny dudes have success in the NBA. I don't think weight is as much of an issue in today's NBA. And then theres the fact that he lives in the Tree canopys.

I don't think there's much comparison. Whiteside is a giant dude, like well over 260lbs (he's listed at 265lb). Camby and Tyson were both over 240 and closer to 250. These might "look" skinny but they are strong as hell and were also long as well. A lot of that weight and strength comes from the lower half. I agree weight isn't as much of an issues these days without many high level post up threats and it is really strength and length that's the key. The problem is his extremely poor lower body strength.

I don't think much of Tyson's strength or weight comes from lower half.

Wasn't this a photoshop job?

[bwgood77]

I don't think there's much comparison. Whiteside is a giant dude, like well over 260lbs (he's listed at 265lb). Camby and Tyson were both over 240 and closer to 250. These might "look" skinny but they are strong as hell and were also long as well. A lot of that weight and strength comes from the lower half. I agree weight isn't as much of an issues these days without many high level post up threats and it is really strength and length that's the key. The problem is his extremely poor lower body strength.

I don't think much of Tyson's strength or weight comes from lower half.

Wasn't this a photoshop job?

Not that I know of. Look at the other photos in this article. https://deadspin.com/i-cant-stop-looking-at-this-picture-of-tyson-chandler-903307042

[lilfishi22]

I don't think much of Tyson's strength or weight comes from lower half.

Wasn't this a photoshop job?

Not that I know of. Look at the other photos in this article. https://deadspin.com/i-cant-stop-looking-at-this-picture-of-tyson-chandler-903307042

I've read in the past that this was shopped. Either way, he doesn't have Steven Adam sized legs but compared to Bamba, his are solid. He was also a DPOY in an era where the Dwight, Bynum, Gasol and even Pekovic were relevant.

[Mr Puddles]

Inspired by a similar Memphis trade on the RealGM trade board. If the Cavs go full rebuild, would you consider:

Love + #8

for

#2 + #31 + Knight

We could likely draft Young or Bamba at #8:

Young
Booker
Jackson
Love
Bender

Or

Sexton (#16)
Booker
Jackson
Love
Bamba

- I personally wouldn't do it if Doncic is still available, but it's still intriguing IMO

No, that is horrible. The trade you based it off of was:

Kevin Love/#8 to Memphis for Chandler Parsons/#2

So why would we pay more (Adding in the #31) when we would be giving up a way way way way way way less toxic of a contract? Parsons is trash. I love that SJAX called him out on not having any real love for the game and just sitting back collecting a check. He is owed $50M over the next two seasons......and you replaced that with Knights #30M and still decided that we would need to add in the #31? No, not even close. I wouldnt touch that even with the 2nd taken out. You are basically dropping down 6 spots in the draft to pay what would be a disgruntled Kevin Love $25M for a season before he leaves in FA. Thats just utterly gross and why i cant get behind any Love trade.

Who thinks we would welcome a trade to the Suns (Even if we have a bright future or not) after spending the past 4 seasons in Cleveland, always competing for a title? That would be taking a huge step backwards for him. He would be his mopey self here and leave the first chance he got. He doesnt have 4-5 more years for us to mature enough to be a champion contender. He's already at the top now. So that would be us throwing away the highest pick we have had in decades just to dump and extra season of Knight, which really isnt dumping an extra season as we would pretty much be paying Knights 2 year salary to Love in that one season (Ok, a little more, but still the point is valid).

The Chandler Parsons trade also had Memphis' second rounder (just not in the title of the thread - OP wrote it in the description)

I'm clearly higher on Love than you but I also wouldn't do it for the #2 pick. I think the value is quite fair but I'm very high on Doncic - and think he's a perfect fit for us - and Ayton has enough upside for me to not pull the trigger.

HOWEVER, If our pick drops to 3 or 4 - I'd do this trade without much hesitation. 3-8 is a toss-up in my book so we'd basically be picking up love for a bad contract and the #31.

[thamadkant]

You think Grizzlies would trade Pick 3 or 4 along with Parsons
for
Warren, Chriss and Pick 16?

[oddity]

You think Grizzlies would trade Pick 3 or 4 along with Parsons
for
Warren, Chriss and Pick 16?

No.

[King4Day]

You think Grizzlies would trade Pick 3 or 4 along with Parsons
for
Warren, Chriss and Pick 16?

No.

I dunno. If they landed the #4 pick, they might not be as high on it and would be willing to dump Parsons' contract for that coup.
The real question is, would the Suns? I don't think we would.

[lilfishi22]

I don't think I would. As tempting as that #3 or 4 might be, that Parsons deal (and the player) is going to seriously shut us out of any potential FA's. That's more a move you make early on in a rebuild and we're clearly done adding youth assets/tanking and looking to take the next step forward towards competitiveness.

[King4Day]

I don't think I would. As tempting as that #3 or 4 might be, that Parsons deal (and the player) is going to seriously shut us out of any potential FA's. That's more a move you make early on in a rebuild and we're clearly done adding youth assets/tanking and looking to take the next step forward towards competitiveness.

Exactly. Though, it would be kinda cool to add both Ayton and Young

[bwgood77]

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That further illustrates why im so against us drafting Bamba.

JUST SAY NO.....to Mo!

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[Stix]

I really don't see the hype behind JJJ, he looks like a journeyman roleplayer to me. In a draft that is top heavy with superstar potential, i just don't see the top 5 hype. I would most definitely want Bagley over him.

[Kerrsed]

I really don't see the hype behind JJJ, he looks like a journeyman roleplayer to me. In a draft that is top heavy with superstar potential, i just don't see the top 5 hype. I would most definitely want Bagley over him.

He is supposedly more substance over flash. One of those guys that will give you great pay on the court, but flies under the radar and isnt in the headlines.

[sunsbum]

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Kind of a weird article. They talk about hum getting blown by, by a bunch of guards that he has to come out to the 3pt line and defend. I mean, what do you expect? In the few clips I watched he actually did fairly well.

Then they compare his body to rudy goberts talking about the weight difference yet gobert has had 3 years to get that NBA build.

[kennydorglas]

They keep hating on my guy Bamba.
He's going to be the Myles Turner of this draft.
'Ohhh he's skinny, he moves funny, cant create his offense... let's take Jahlil Okafor''

I'm so ready for this.
#BambaStrong #BAMBASQUAD

[TOO]

They keep hating on my guy Bamba.
He's going to be the Myles Turner of this draft.
'Ohhh he's skinny, he moves funny, cant create his offense... let's take Jahlil Okafor''

I'm so ready for this.
#BambaStrong #BAMBASQUAD

You are not alone, friend.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I really don't see the hype behind JJJ, he looks like a journeyman roleplayer to me. In a draft that is top heavy with superstar potential, i just don't see the top 5 hype. I would most definitely want Bagley over him.

I've heard multiple draft guys say he has the best defensive instincts of anyone they have scouted since Anthony Davis. He's a natural shot blocker who can also switch onto guards. Advanced stats love him with a 10 DBPM compared to 4 for Ayton and 3 for Bagley.

Offensively he's still a work in progress but he shot nearly 80% from the FT line which is a good indicator and he shot around 40% from 3 in college on a decent volume. So basically he's a 3 and D Center.

Some of the reason his counting stats don't jump off the page is MSU played 4 bigs in their rotation and had other guys like Bridges that took on more of the offensive role.