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Argument for Suns: All that we said about the Grizzlies? Now double it. The Suns just logged their 50th season, yet somehow have never earned an NBA championship or the No. 1 pick -- the oldest team in the league to own such distinctions. The bad luck behind that stat is a monolith of pain.

It started in the franchise’s second offseason, when a coin flip would determine whether the Suns or Milwaukee Bucks would get the top overall pick -- and a chance to Draft a guy named Lew Alcindor (later Kareem Abdul-Jabbar). The Suns picked heads. The coin showed tails and Phoenix wound up with Neal Walk.

Fast forward to 1987. Again, it was down to just Phoenix and one other team: the San Antonio Spurs. The unquestioned top pick of that year’s draft was a Navy guy named David Robinson. The Suns’ logo showed up on the second-to-last envelope, and they drafted Armen Gilliam instead.

As recently as last year, Phoenix had the second-best odds of landing the No. 1 pick. Instead, the Lakers and 76ers leap-frogged them, dropping the Suns to fourth.

In terms of being due blindingly good luck, Phoenix probably has the most historic case in the league.

Argument against Suns: It happened with Connie Hawkins in the 1970s. It occurred Charles Barkley in the '90s. And it happened when Nash was dealt in 2012: Whenever Phoenix has dealt its star player to a rival, the team is punished with a tumultuous transition.

Maybe the lottery gods are still offended at seeing Nash in Laker purple and gold. Maybe they’ll point to 21-year-old Devin Booker and say, “You know what? You’re good.” Maybe Phoenix just isn’t allowed to have nice things.

DarkHawk wrote: Just to get this thread moving, how about everyone go to tankathon and do 5 simulations with the 5th one being what we'll actually select. So 4 warmups and then our actual pick.

m1chal wrote:

DarkHawk wrote: Just to get this thread moving, how about everyone go to tankathon and do 5 simulations with the 5th one being what we'll actually select. So 4 warmups and then our actual pick.

Obviously, I got 4th pick, behind Memphis, Dallas and Atlanta. JJJ, here we come!

bwgood77 wrote:So the Lakers pick is owned by Philly if it doesn't move up or moves up to 1 but if it goes to 2 or 3 it goes to Boston. So will have they have reps from both teams sitting up there I wonder?

It's pretty ridiculous that they have all those people sitting up there to rep the teams, because they don't do anything. They just get introduced I think and maybe the winner interviewed afterwards.

DarkHawk wrote:

bwgood77 wrote:So the Lakers pick is owned by Philly if it doesn't move up or moves up to 1 but if it goes to 2 or 3 it goes to Boston. So will have they have reps from both teams sitting up there I wonder?

It's pretty ridiculous that they have all those people sitting up there to rep the teams, because they don't do anything. They just get introduced I think and maybe the winner interviewed afterwards.

Like last year. Imagine if Magic was sitting up there but the Lakers lost their pick. That'd be awkward as hell

bwgood77 wrote:I guess we will have one female representative. The Hawks co owner's wife Jami Gertz is representing them. She's actually an actress...was in some old 80s movies like Less than Zero and The Lost Boys.

JMac1 wrote:
What about Twister?!? Lol!

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