The Draft Thread: Ayton Vs Doncic 1

[Frank Lee]

What PG do we add then if Ayton is the choice ?

(Elephant in the room)

[8on]

What PG do we add then if Ayton is the choice ?

(Elephant in the room)

$12M/3 to Elf and get it over with

[bigfoot]

who would be harder to stop on offense: Doncic or Ayton?

Doncic may be the way the league is going, but those teams never had a chance at a guy like Ayton.

He’s big enough that you can’t put PJ Tucker on him, and he has enough range that he can stay on the floor. I could see him defending the perimeter, even if he can’t do it yet.

Easier for a 19 year old to learn things than Towns, and that’s because his brain has six years to develop. That’s scientific fact.

Except he's from the Bahamas and hits the ganja pretty hard

What the actual ****?

[JMac1]

I’m happy for Sac, they deserve a player like Doncic. We get to see him 4 times a year and I’m sure he will be gunning for us.

[MrMiyagi]

What PG do we add then if Ayton is the choice ?

(Elephant in the room)

There's this guy in Europe who averaged 15.8 ppg and 4.2 apg. To compare, Luka averaged 14.5 ppg and 4.7 apg.

Spoiler:

Mike James.

[Mjee]

I would love to have a big that could get me 20 and 10 per night ...... cough * ayton cough *



All star bigs do not grow on trees

1) Offensive-oriented all-star bigs not currently playing in conference finals
2) Al Horford, a defensive big averaging 14/8 for his career, is the last all-star big standing.
3) Current seven+ footers in the playoffs seeing limited minutes
4) Not sure Ayton is going to get the volume of shots needed to get 20 per game (Booker, Jackson will take more)

Doncic is a 21/7.6/6.7 per 36 minute player in Euroleague.

NBA players who have averaged 20/6/6 per 36 ... http://bkref.com/tiny/483dU




There isn’t a lot of good centers in the NBA period. Ayton is unique because he has such a good offensive skill set. He can play in the post and shoot the midrange with ease. Very similar game to a David Robinson.

I disagree with you in that Deandre would get his touches and shots. The main reason why Jackson had such a high usage rate at the end of the season was because Devin was hurt and we had nobody to carry the offensive load. Book and Ayton would become our primary two scorers. Ayton would give us the big we have longed for. Another reason why most centers are on the bench during crunch time is because of free throw shooting. Ayton doesn’t have that flaw in his game.

Marquese Chriss and Dragan Bender will never become serious offensive threats in this league. We need someone down low that can get points on the block and demand attention. We can’t have all wings on this team and be successful in the long term.

I like Doncic, I really do but I would be disappointed if we passed on Ayton.

Ceilings:
Doncic = taller Ginobili / Gordon Hayward
Ayton = David Robinson/Patrick Ewing

Easy choice ....

[Frank Lee]

What PG do we add then if Ayton is the choice ?

(Elephant in the room)

$12M/3 to Elf and get it over with

(Yawn) yes, likely as any

But I’d like to see a sneaky Teodosic addition. We need a playmaker in the worst way .... and a PF ... and and and

[8on]

What PG do we add then if Ayton is the choice ?

(Elephant in the room)

There's this guy in Europe who averaged 15.8 ppg and 4.2 apg. To compare, Luka averaged 14.5 ppg and 4.7 apg.

Spoiler:

Mike James.

Maybe we can trade down to 2 for him. A point guard as good as Luka??? Could be the steal of the draft

[MrMiyagi]

What PG do we add then if Ayton is the choice ?

(Elephant in the room)

Honestly, I want Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. I know, I know, ANOTHER Kentucky guard. But dude fits well with Booker and Jackson on the perimeter. If need be, I'd trade 16 and 31 to LAC for one of their picks to secure him.

[bigfoot]

I would love to have a big that could get me 20 and 10 per night ...... cough * ayton cough *



All star bigs do not grow on trees

1) Offensive-oriented all-star bigs not currently playing in conference finals
2) Al Horford, a defensive big averaging 14/8 for his career, is the last all-star big standing.
3) Current seven+ footers in the playoffs seeing limited minutes
4) Not sure Ayton is going to get the volume of shots needed to get 20 per game (Booker, Jackson will take more)

Doncic is a 21/7.6/6.7 per 36 minute player in Euroleague.

NBA players who have averaged 20/6/6 per 36 ... http://bkref.com/tiny/483dU




There isn’t a lot of good centers in the NBA period. Ayton is unique because he has such a good offensive skill set. He can play in the post and shoot the midrange with ease. Very similar game to a David Robinson.

I disagree with you in that Deandre would get his touches and shots. The main reason why Jackson had such a high usage rate at the end of the season was because Devin was hurt and we had nobody to carry the offensive load. Book and Ayton would become our primary two scorers. Ayton would give us the big we have longed for. Another reason why most centers are on the bench during crunch time is because of free throw shooting. Ayton doesn’t have that flaw in his game.

Marquese Chriss and Dragan Bender will never become serious offensive threats in this league. We need someone down low that can get points on the block and demand attention. We can’t have all wings on this team and be successful in the long term.

I like Doncic, I really do but I would be disappointed if we passed on Ayton.

Ceilings:
Doncic = taller Ginobili / Gordon Hayward
Ayton = David Robinson/Patrick Ewing

Easy choice ....

Post up ... the worst shot in basketball

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[MrMiyagi]

1) Offensive-oriented all-star bigs not currently playing in conference finals
2) Al Horford, a defensive big averaging 14/8 for his career, is the last all-star big standing.
3) Current seven+ footers in the playoffs seeing limited minutes
4) Not sure Ayton is going to get the volume of shots needed to get 20 per game (Booker, Jackson will take more)

Doncic is a 21/7.6/6.7 per 36 minute player in Euroleague.

NBA players who have averaged 20/6/6 per 36 ... http://bkref.com/tiny/483dU




There isn’t a lot of good centers in the NBA period. Ayton is unique because he has such a good offensive skill set. He can play in the post and shoot the midrange with ease. Very similar game to a David Robinson.

I disagree with you in that Deandre would get his touches and shots. The main reason why Jackson had such a high usage rate at the end of the season was because Devin was hurt and we had nobody to carry the offensive load. Book and Ayton would become our primary two scorers. Ayton would give us the big we have longed for. Another reason why most centers are on the bench during crunch time is because of free throw shooting. Ayton doesn’t have that flaw in his game.

Marquese Chriss and Dragan Bender will never become serious offensive threats in this league. We need someone down low that can get points on the block and demand attention. We can’t have all wings on this team and be successful in the long term.

I like Doncic, I really do but I would be disappointed if we passed on Ayton.

Ceilings:
Doncic = taller Ginobili / Gordon Hayward
Ayton = David Robinson/Patrick Ewing

Easy choice ....

Post up ... the worst shot in basketball

Read on Twitter

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And yet, Golden State still runs post-up opportunities. Because it opens up all the other stuff. And they have a 7 footer who's unguardable.

But yeah, who could ever want Ayton?

[Mjee]

1) Offensive-oriented all-star bigs not currently playing in conference finals
2) Al Horford, a defensive big averaging 14/8 for his career, is the last all-star big standing.
3) Current seven+ footers in the playoffs seeing limited minutes
4) Not sure Ayton is going to get the volume of shots needed to get 20 per game (Booker, Jackson will take more)

Doncic is a 21/7.6/6.7 per 36 minute player in Euroleague.

NBA players who have averaged 20/6/6 per 36 ... http://bkref.com/tiny/483dU




There isn’t a lot of good centers in the NBA period. Ayton is unique because he has such a good offensive skill set. He can play in the post and shoot the midrange with ease. Very similar game to a David Robinson.

I disagree with you in that Deandre would get his touches and shots. The main reason why Jackson had such a high usage rate at the end of the season was because Devin was hurt and we had nobody to carry the offensive load. Book and Ayton would become our primary two scorers. Ayton would give us the big we have longed for. Another reason why most centers are on the bench during crunch time is because of free throw shooting. Ayton doesn’t have that flaw in his game.

Marquese Chriss and Dragan Bender will never become serious offensive threats in this league. We need someone down low that can get points on the block and demand attention. We can’t have all wings on this team and be successful in the long term.

I like Doncic, I really do but I would be disappointed if we passed on Ayton.

Ceilings:
Doncic = taller Ginobili / Gordon Hayward
Ayton = David Robinson/Patrick Ewing

Easy choice ....

Post up ... the worst shot in basketball

Read on Twitter

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Thats the beauty of it ... Ayton has the best all-round offensive game for a center we have seen in the Draft in quite some time! He can literally score in a variety of ways. A 7’1 center that is an athletic freak who can rebound and score at a high rate. He is a generational talent that we can’t pass on .

[bigfoot]

1) Offensive-oriented all-star bigs not currently playing in conference finals
2) Al Horford, a defensive big averaging 14/8 for his career, is the last all-star big standing.
3) Current seven+ footers in the playoffs seeing limited minutes
4) Not sure Ayton is going to get the volume of shots needed to get 20 per game (Booker, Jackson will take more)

Doncic is a 21/7.6/6.7 per 36 minute player in Euroleague.

NBA players who have averaged 20/6/6 per 36 ... http://bkref.com/tiny/483dU




There isn’t a lot of good centers in the NBA period. Ayton is unique because he has such a good offensive skill set. He can play in the post and shoot the midrange with ease. Very similar game to a David Robinson.

I disagree with you in that Deandre would get his touches and shots. The main reason why Jackson had such a high usage rate at the end of the season was because Devin was hurt and we had nobody to carry the offensive load. Book and Ayton would become our primary two scorers. Ayton would give us the big we have longed for. Another reason why most centers are on the bench during crunch time is because of free throw shooting. Ayton doesn’t have that flaw in his game.

Marquese Chriss and Dragan Bender will never become serious offensive threats in this league. We need someone down low that can get points on the block and demand attention. We can’t have all wings on this team and be successful in the long term.

I like Doncic, I really do but I would be disappointed if we passed on Ayton.

Ceilings:
Doncic = taller Ginobili / Gordon Hayward
Ayton = David Robinson/Patrick Ewing

Easy choice ....

Post up ... the worst shot in basketball

Read on Twitter

?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sbnation.com%2Fcollege-basketball%2F2016%2F12%2F29%2F14115482%2Fmarshall-basketball-analytics-dan-dantoni-shut-down-reporter&tfw_site=SBNation

And yet, Golden State still runs post-up opportunities. Because it opens up all the other stuff. And they have a 7 footer who's unguardable.

But yeah, who could ever want Ayton?

So suddenly Ayton is the next Durant ??? And Durant is a 7 footer??

[Mjee]

Neither Ayton or Doncic will be busts. Both will be great contributors to their respective teams !!!

Therefore, Ryan will account for positional need. And the player with the highest ceiling/potential.

Guess who he’s choosing!????

In addition, if you think our star and face of our franchise (DBook) wants Doncic over Ayton, you are sadly mistaken . Guarantee he makes a point of wanting to draft DA

[Hesh]

get rid of the anonymity! list the voters! divide the board further!

we are tied at 49 a piece. Ayton had the slight edge for the most part up until now

[Mjee]

get rid of the anonymity! list the voters! divide the board further!

we are tied at 49 a piece. Ayton had the slight edge for the most part up until now

Awesome points by everyone IMO ..... in the end we all are on the same team and want what’s best for our city !!!!!

[bigfoot]

Neither Ayton or Doncic will be busts. Both will be great contributors to their respective teams !!!

Therefore, Ryan will account for positional need. And the player with the highest ceiling/potential.

Guess who he’s choosing!????

In addition, if you think our star and face of our franchise (DBook) wants Doncic over Ayton, you are sadly mistaken . Guarantee he makes a point of wanting to draft DA

People are counting on Ayton to be able to step out and hit the 3 pointer (17% at NBA range).

McD is a modern analytics guy ... the Suns need three point shooting, great passing, and multiple players to spread the floor. Ayton doesn't bring that. He will draft Doncic.

[8on]

He’s already my favorite Phoenix Sun.

https://www.slamonline.com/nba/deandre-ayton-slam-cover/

[Moochthemonkey]

What PG do we add then if Ayton is the choice ?

(Elephant in the room)

There's this guy in Europe who averaged 15.8 ppg and 4.2 apg. To compare, Luka averaged 14.5 ppg and 4.7 apg.

Spoiler:

Mike James.

[bigfoot]

I'm not going be upset if we get Ayton ... just think Doncic is the generational talent that will get us to the finals. He's been in a lot of meaningful championship games already at just 19.