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The reason we suck so much on defense is because we switch on everything. Not an exaggeration, I honestly don’t think I have seen a player fight through a screen this season, so it tells me that’s what Monty Williams wants. It’s creates mismatches which lead to helping from other defenders which lead to open 3s which is why the Suns are the 5th worst team in the league at guarding the 3.
Suns need to look at how teams like Boston defend and learn from that and use that. They don’t switch on every single action like the Suns do.
Suns need to look at how teams like Boston defend and learn from that and use that. They don’t switch on every single action like the Suns do.
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Revived wrote:The reason we suck so much on defense is because we switch on everything. Not an exaggeration, I honestly don’t think I have seen a player fight through a screen this season, so it tells me that’s what Monty Williams wants. It’s creates mismatches which lead to helping from other defenders which lead to open 3s which is why the Suns are the 5th worst team in the league at guarding the 3.
Suns need to look at how teams like Boston defend and learn from that and use that. They don’t switch on every single action like the Suns do.
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We should be more selective with out switches, especially since I don't think our guys are experienced enough to help on rotations when the other teams forces the mismatches. The good thing is that, imo we do have switchable defenders. Rubio, Bridges, Oubre, Ayton and even Saric do a decent job when they have to switch and defend. Even Booker has been putting more effort on that end this season although he's still not an average defender yet.
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Still waiting after almost a year...
Deandre Ayton ready to 'take over' after record 16th straight loss by Phoenix Suns
ATLANTA — Deandre Ayton sat in the visiting locker room at Quicken Loans Arena on the wrong end of another loss that set the wrong kind of record for the Phoenix Suns.
The Suns (11-49) dropped their 16th straight game Thursday night, falling to the Cleveland Cavaliers.
That didn’t sit well with the rookie 7-footer — and stoked an urge to take matters into his own hands.
“I gave them enough time to let them run what they got to run,” Ayton said. “Now I’m about to just take over now. It’s about that time to take over and not really look back.”
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handsome salary wrote:Still waiting after almost a year...Deandre Ayton ready to 'take over' after record 16th straight loss by Phoenix Suns
ATLANTA — Deandre Ayton sat in the visiting locker room at Quicken Loans Arena on the wrong end of another loss that set the wrong kind of record for the Phoenix Suns.
The Suns (11-49) dropped their 16th straight game Thursday night, falling to the Cleveland Cavaliers.
That didn’t sit well with the rookie 7-footer — and stoked an urge to take matters into his own hands.
“I gave them enough time to let them run what they got to run,” Ayton said. “Now I’m about to just take over now. It’s about that time to take over and not really look back.”
I think he says all these "confident" wordings to keep himself from falling off the cliff. His confidence level after being removed from the starting lineup must be at an all-time low. He puts in the effort but his confidence level isn't there.
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GoodBehavior wrote:handsome salary wrote:Still waiting after almost a year...Deandre Ayton ready to 'take over' after record 16th straight loss by Phoenix Suns
ATLANTA — Deandre Ayton sat in the visiting locker room at Quicken Loans Arena on the wrong end of another loss that set the wrong kind of record for the Phoenix Suns.
The Suns (11-49) dropped their 16th straight game Thursday night, falling to the Cleveland Cavaliers.
That didn’t sit well with the rookie 7-footer — and stoked an urge to take matters into his own hands.
“I gave them enough time to let them run what they got to run,” Ayton said. “Now I’m about to just take over now. It’s about that time to take over and not really look back.”
I think he says all these "confident" wordings to keep himself from falling off the cliff. His confidence level after being removed from the starting lineup must be at an all-time low. He puts in the effort but his confidence level isn't there.
Those are quotes from last season that show how bad he felt in Igor's offense. In a few games this season you see much improved chemistry with Booker. I was hoping to see this two man game last season, good they are working on it now. Everybody should feed off these two. His confidence is fine, in last game looked in a better physical shape as well.
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I actually think it's the opposite. Being taken out of the starting line up means he has less pressure from being a starter and he gets to go up against 2nd tier dudes and players that's already been a little be drained before he got on the court.GoodBehavior wrote:handsome salary wrote:Still waiting after almost a year...Deandre Ayton ready to 'take over' after record 16th straight loss by Phoenix Suns
ATLANTA — Deandre Ayton sat in the visiting locker room at Quicken Loans Arena on the wrong end of another loss that set the wrong kind of record for the Phoenix Suns.
The Suns (11-49) dropped their 16th straight game Thursday night, falling to the Cleveland Cavaliers.
That didn’t sit well with the rookie 7-footer — and stoked an urge to take matters into his own hands.
“I gave them enough time to let them run what they got to run,” Ayton said. “Now I’m about to just take over now. It’s about that time to take over and not really look back.”
I think he says all these "confident" wordings to keep himself from falling off the cliff. His confidence level after being removed from the starting lineup must be at an all-time low. He puts in the effort but his confidence level isn't there.
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lilfishi22 wrote:I actually think it's the opposite. Being taken out of the starting line up means he has less pressure from being a starter and he gets to go up against 2nd tier dudes and players that's already been a little be drained before he got on the court.GoodBehavior wrote:handsome salary wrote:Still waiting after almost a year...
I think he says all these "confident" wordings to keep himself from falling off the cliff. His confidence level after being removed from the starting lineup must be at an all-time low. He puts in the effort but his confidence level isn't there.
Maybe, but it's humiliating to lose a starting position, no matter how Monty tries to spin it. Especially for a number one overall pick. You can tell by his demeanor post-game, which was previously playful and joking, has taken a more depressing tone.
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Look around the league and see how much talent is it out there. Also how much incoming talent.
That said, I think Suns should consider cutting their loss with Ayton and trade him while his value is still relatively high.
That said, I think Suns should consider cutting their loss with Ayton and trade him while his value is still relatively high.
There’s never been a time in history when we look back and say that the people who were censoring free speech were the good guys.
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76ciology wrote:Look around the league and see how much talent is it out there. Also how much incoming talent.
That said, I think Suns should consider cutting their loss with Ayton and trade him while his value is still relatively high.
For what? What can we get that is better than Ayton in terms of potential and is available?
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76ciology wrote:Look around the league and see how much talent is it out there. Also how much incoming talent.
That said, I think Suns should consider cutting their loss with Ayton and trade him while his value is still relatively high.
For who?
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lilfishi22 wrote:76ciology wrote:Look around the league and see how much talent is it out there. Also how much incoming talent.
That said, I think Suns should consider cutting their loss with Ayton and trade him while his value is still relatively high.
For what? What can we get that is better than Ayton in terms of potential and is available?
Maybe someone like Jonathan Isaac or Aaron Gordon. Jarett Allen? Julius Randle? Jarett Culver? Derrick Jones Jr and picks? Vucevic? Jonas Valanciunas? Knox? Hachimura?
You guys can always ask for extra picks if you want to bridge the gap in value
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76ciology wrote:lilfishi22 wrote:76ciology wrote:Look around the league and see how much talent is it out there. Also how much incoming talent.
That said, I think Suns should consider cutting their loss with Ayton and trade him while his value is still relatively high.
For what? What can we get that is better than Ayton in terms of potential and is available?
Maybe someone like Jonathan Isaac or Aaron Gordon. Jarett Allen? Julius Randle? Jarett Culver? Derrick Jones Jr and picks? Vucevic? Jonas Valanciunas? Knox? Hachimura?
You guys can always ask for extra picks if you want to bridge the gap in value
Ayton for Knox and Booker for Kuzma sound like good ideas - SAS
fromthetop321 wrote:I got Lebron number 1, he is also leading defensive player of the year. Curry's game still reminds me of Jeremy Lin to much.
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Thats the problem with using a center as an asset. You can only put one center in the game, making its demand low. And all teams have already a good center, most of them even got 2 good centers.
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76ciology wrote:Thats the problem with using a center as an asset. You can only put one center in the game, making its demand low. And all teams have already a good center, most of them even got 2 good centers.
If relatively high is still low because demand is low, what sense does it make to sell at a low?
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lilfishi22 wrote:76ciology wrote:Thats the problem with using a center as an asset. You can only put one center in the game, making its demand low. And all teams have already a good center, most of them even got 2 good centers.
If relatively high is still low because demand is low, what sense does it make to sell at a low?
Better than zero or a negative.
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76ciology wrote:lilfishi22 wrote:76ciology wrote:Thats the problem with using a center as an asset. You can only put one center in the game, making its demand low. And all teams have already a good center, most of them even got 2 good centers.
If relatively high is still low because demand is low, what sense does it make to sell at a low?
Better than zero or a negative.
How is Ayton a zero, let alone a negative?
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lilfishi22 wrote:76ciology wrote:lilfishi22 wrote:If relatively high is still low because demand is low, what sense does it make to sell at a low?
Better than zero or a negative.
How is Ayton a zero, let alone a negative?
In value.
If he becomes a dime a dozen (not allstar) = zero
Once he is a dime a dozen with contract extension = negative
If you are a number one pick, Stats shows you’re most likely going to get a max.
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Soon we're going to have to throw in an unprotected FRP to get rid of this bum. SMH.
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I would be open to trade him IF the value is there.
Like I said on another thread, Collins from the Hawks would be a nice addition.
Not sure why the Hawks would trade him, but this is the type of player that I would love to get in a trade for Ayton.
Like I said on another thread, Collins from the Hawks would be a nice addition.
Not sure why the Hawks would trade him, but this is the type of player that I would love to get in a trade for Ayton.