JDLAW wrote:bwgood77 wrote:JDLAW wrote:
Your statements age just flat out ignorant.
I think top 20 is fairly reasonable given his lack of all NBA (and not even close in voting particularly behind a number of other guys) combined with not getting chosen initially for all star games.
But he is on an ascension to be in top 15 soon. I think in a realgm poll at the beginning of the year he was 15th and Paul was 14th, and that's on the GB.
However, he dropped a bit this year in his #s and impact..of course I'm not including the playoffs where he's had some phenomenal games and a number of subpar shooting games.
I don't think it's a knock on him to call him a top 20 player but maybe not quite top 15. That's still damn good in a league with 30 teams and a bunch of super stars, including 4 or 5 that will probably end up in the top 15 or 20 ever players.
I don't think he's dropped it all in his impact. His numbers are down slightly because he has better teammates which he trusts and can therefore share the ball more than he had in the past. For example, his assists were down because he plays off the ball more with Paul in the line-up. I put him easily in the top 15 players in the league. I don't care at all about those silly advanced stats that people like to quote. Don't come back with the refrain that I don't understand them. I do understand them, but I find them pretty useless for the most part.
More importantly, he's not a "low tier talent" as described by SaintEstacion. His statements and judgment are just illogical and ignorant. And, I stand by that judgment.
I was confused by the "low tier" part but when he still said top 20 I agreed, so I guess I figured maybe he meant "low tier superstar" but what constitutes a superstar is different for many. Some might say the only ones are LeBron, Curry, Durant, Harden and Doncic or something. Those that get ridiculous numbers of fan votes for all star games and everyone has heard about.
Anyway, he's a Phx superstar. I was mainly talking, in regards to Booker, that his efficiency dropped a lot. He scored just as much. With better teammates and more threats, theoretically the efficiency should go up. He did improve quite a bit on defense though.
Even Booker kind of snapped back at a media person who suggested he was playing better this season than last. Booker responded with "Did you watch me last season?" and then the guy said "Yes" and Book said "Never mind".
And overall I think he learned a lot this season. Anyway, it's just different opinions and I don't imagine too far off. And I'm not surprised some Suns fans put him in top 15..he's pretty close. But he's never been the best player on a winning team before Paul. Maybe he surpasses Paul in the next few years (in their current play).