2018 FA & Trade Discussion 4: Whats The POINT ???

YouTube · Post #1 » by **Kerrsed** » Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:58 pm

Continued from: viewtopic.php?p=69142490#p69142490

Post #2 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:24 am

Sent a PM to my Minnesota "insider" to try and get his thoughts on Crawford....

bwgood77 wrote:I can't believe it's been reported that the Suns have offered him a contract. I see he's among league worst in advanced #s, with poor regular stats. What are your thoughts on him as a player based on the eye test last year?

He’s the worst player I have ever had the misfortune of watching in a Minnesota Timberwolves uniform, albeit part of that analysis is based on usage-rate and minutes played. Absolutely painful to watch.

YouTube · Post #3 » by **Kerrsed** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:32 am

bwgood77 wrote:Sent a PM to my Minnesota "insider" to try and get his thoughts on Crawford....

He’s the worst player I have ever had the misfortune of watching in a Minnesota Timberwolves uniform, albeit part of that analysis is based on usage-rate and minutes played. Absolutely painful to watch.

Well there is a huge difference between when Butler is in the game, and when he goes to sit and is replaced with Crawford. Not nearly as big of a difference if he is replacing Booker on the floor for 15-20 MPG (Around what Daniels played last season). You could even shrink that down to around 12-15 MPG (Daniels MPG is kind of inflated because he had to play more minutes per game due to Booker sitting out with injury).

TheLogician · Post #4 » by **TheLogician** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:49 am

Crawford declined his $4.5 million player option but will accept half that to play for a worse team? Just retire, dude.

Fo-Real · Post #5 » by **Fo-Real** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:51 am

Has it been confirmed that we offered it and has he accepted it?

TheLogician · Post #6 » by **TheLogician** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:53 am

Fo-Real wrote:Has it been confirmed that we offered it and has he accepted it?

We offered the vet minimum of $2.4 million but he hasn't accepted yet.

Post #7 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:55 am

Fo-Real wrote:Has it been confirmed that we offered it and has he accepted it?

No

rcc8884 · Post #8 » by **rcc8884** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:30 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Fo-Real wrote:Has it been confirmed that we offered it and has he accepted it?

No

Everyone is saying it but the only reference point that everyone is using as a source (CBS, 247, Realgm, Arizona Sports) is something Gambo said earlier today. Nobody has said it except for him and we all know we can't always trust Gambo.

Definitely would not take it as confirmed

TheLogician · Post #9 » by **TheLogician** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:58 am

It's ridiculous that we even brought him in. And Jones said he didn't even know until the media reported it? This is the most dysfunctional this franchise has ever been.

YouTube · Post #10 » by **Kerrsed** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:02 am

TheLogician wrote:It's ridiculous that we even brought him in. And Jones said he didn't even know until the media reported it? This is the most dysfunctional this franchise has ever been.

No. Koko said he didnt know, as he was running practice at the time.

Post #11 » by **lilfishi22** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:26 am

From a PG perspective (which is the position we're trying to fill) how does Jarrett Jack match up against Crawford? I've always thought of Jack as a solid vet PG and wanted him as a back up. Not a great shooter or defender but almost 6 assists in 25mpg on only 1.9TPG

Revived · Post #12 » by **Revived** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:37 am

Wasn’t it a James Jones who said the Suns won’t sign any token vets?

What the hell is Jamal Crawford besides just that!

Post #13 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:47 am

lilfishi22 wrote:From a PG perspective (which is the position we're trying to fill) how does Jarrett Jack match up against Crawford? I've always thought of Jack as a solid vet PG and wanted him as a back up. Not a great shooter or defender but almost 6 assists in 25mpg on only 1.9TPG

Good assist guy, bad shooter and defender.

jredsaz · Post #14 » by **jredsaz** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:03 am

TheLogician wrote:
Fo-Real wrote:Has it been confirmed that we offered it and has he accepted it?

We offered the vet minimum of $2.4 million but he hasn't accepted yet.

Where was that reported?

YouTube · Post #15 » by **Kerrsed** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:04 am

Revived wrote:Wasn’t it a James Jones who said the Suns won’t sign any token vets?

What the hell is Jamal Crawford besides just that!

I think when they said we wouldnt go after "Token' Vets" he had something else in mind.

jredsaz · Post #16 » by **jredsaz** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:04 am

jredsaz wrote:
TheLogician wrote:
Fo-Real wrote:Has it been confirmed that we offered it and has he accepted it?

We offered the vet minimum of $2.4 million but he hasn't accepted yet.

Where was that reported?

Oh, everywhere. Lol

Post #17 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:07 am

jredsaz wrote:
jredsaz wrote:
TheLogician wrote:
We offered the vet minimum of $2.4 million but he hasn't accepted yet.

Where was that reported?

Oh, everywhere. Lol

Responding to yourself? Reported in a number of places but all of them point to Gambo as their source.

Post #18 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:08 am

For those unsure of dates on roster cuts and rookie contract options deadline for following year... viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1755866

jredsaz · Post #19 » by **jredsaz** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:10 am

bwgood77 wrote:
jredsaz wrote:
jredsaz wrote:
Where was that reported?

Oh, everywhere. Lol

Responding to yourself? Reported in a number of places but all of them point to Gambo as their source.

I quickly realized I had an internet machine in my hand and decided to hop on the world wide web to sleuth for myself. I figured I would answer my own question.

carey · Post #20 » by **carey** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:15 am

I mean, he might be bad, but the TImberwolves started TJ Ford. So that dude is already full of ****.