2019 Draft Discussion - Suns with 6th pick!

[bwgood77]

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I wish I knew how they would plan on trying to develop Culver. If the thought was to try to develop him as a quasi lead guard next to Booker that would be intriguing. Him and Bridges on either side of Booker would be the formation of a great defense and Culver is a smart player who I think could be a decent facilitator.

I should note while I like Culver the thought that he's Evan Turner 2.0 does scare me.

For awhile I liked the idea of Culver next to Booker since he can handle the ball and is a great defender. I just with he could shoot better. It was also a bit concerning when he played so poorly at times in some big games in the tourney.

[WeekapaugGroove]

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I wish I knew how they would plan on trying to develop Culver. If the thought was to try to develop him as a quasi lead guard next to Booker that would be intriguing. Him and Bridges on either side of Booker would be the formation of a great defense and Culver is a smart player who I think could be a decent facilitator.

I should note while I like Culver the thought that he's Evan Turner 2.0 does scare me.

For awhile I liked the idea of Culver next to Booker since he can handle the ball and is a great defender. I just with he could shoot better. It was also a bit concerning when he played so poorly at times in some big games in the tourney.

I get that shot concern and that's where the Turner 2.0 comes in. But if Turner would have developed a shot his career looks totally different. Most drafts I'd be out on him but considering what's going to be available he's on the radar.

Feels like all these dudes have some major question marks. In a way guys like white and Garland seem kind of safe simply because I'm confident they will be able to shoot and if you can shoot you can be at least a useful backup.

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[bwgood77]

They asked him how he is able to defend so well and get so many blocks when his standing reach is the same as some of the taller guards.

His response: "Basketball IQ, a lot of it is all about timing. Also helps that i have a very quick second jump as well. I dont let my physical limitations determine what i can and cant do".

Who do we rank as some of better defensive pf/c in history of the league with length limitations?

Ben Wallace and Dennis Rodman were both not all that tall...6'8/6'7 and I don't think they had really long wingspans, but with a quick search, I can't really find the exact measurements for them. Battier was another guy who never put up great numbers but was very high iq, a great defender, didn't have much size or length, and teams were consistently better with him on the floor. Those are just off the top of my head.

[bwgood77]

They asked him how he is able to defend so well and get so many blocks when his standing reach is the same as some of the taller guards.

His response: "Basketball IQ, a lot of it is all about timing. Also helps that i have a very quick second jump as well. I dont let my physical limitations determine what i can and cant do".

Who do we rank as some of better defensive pf/c in history of the league with length limitations?

I dont know, you do the research on that.

What i do know is that Paul Milsap was 6'7 (Almost 6'8) and had similar measurements. Milsap was known as a solid defender (Not as good as Clarke), but had little offense, as thats something he worked on when he got to the NBA.

Here is a chart that shows some of the similarities to NBA guys when they were in college to Clarke. If you want, you can try to find combine measurements for each of those guys and see if any are close to Clarke's numbers.

Millsap and Marion had longer wingspans but they have been used more as offensive comps...Millsap having minimal range but a nice scoring touch like Clarke does and Marion having a similar second jump and rebound/put back mentality. I think then you would compare him to a better shot blocking Roberson or Battier defensively. But pieces of a lot of those guys.

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Trade the pick.

Option 1, 2, 3 and 4 should be to trade the pick. Only option 5 should be to actually make a selection with it.

I really think the chances of anyone that’s available at #6 in this weak being good at some point is really low.

[bwgood77]

Trade the pick.

Option 1, 2, 3 and 4 should be to trade the pick. Only option 5 should be to actually make a selection with it.

I really think the chances of anyone that’s available at #6 in this weak being good at some point is really low.

No, that's when you make bad trades. If there is a good trade to be made for the pick, sure, but I will never advocate to just "trade the pick".

[bwgood77]

Kerrsed, your NBA Combine stat link from nba.com has his shuttle run at 3.05, so I assume that is right and not this guy's.

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[Revived]

Trade the pick.

Option 1, 2, 3 and 4 should be to trade the pick. Only option 5 should be to actually make a selection with it.

I really think the chances of anyone that’s available at #6 in this weak being good at some point is really low.

No, that's when you make bad trades. If there is a good trade to be made for the pick, sure, but I will never advocate to just "trade the pick".

I like the Suns chances in trading for an established NBA veteran than drafting someone especially with how awful the Suns scouting is.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Every time I see Tacos measurements I laugh. I really hope he makes a team just for the pure lols

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Saw someone on Twitter suggest we draft Bol at #6 and Tacko at #32, so this could be the Official Tacko Bol draft.

With John Hammonds unrelenting quench for length I could see Orlando actually do that exact thing

In fact someone needs to go check on John he might be in a boner endused coma after seeing Tacos wingspan.

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[WeekapaugGroove]

Trade the pick.

Option 1, 2, 3 and 4 should be to trade the pick. Only option 5 should be to actually make a selection with it.

I really think the chances of anyone that’s available at #6 in this weak being good at some point is really low.

No, that's when you make bad trades. If there is a good trade to be made for the pick, sure, but I will never advocate to just "trade the pick".

I like the Suns chances in trading for an established NBA veteran than drafting someone especially with how awful the Suns scouting is.

I'm cool trading the pick but the two obstacles I see are everyone views this draft as trash so I'm not sure teams are going to be lining up to trade good players for that pick. Plus lots of teams are shopping their picks right now.

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We need to trade our pick for a vet and we need to put next years pick on the table as well.

Why?

The draft is about to become a TOTAL crapshoot. Between the new lottery odds AND the fact that we will soon be drafting high schoolers again, the top 20 picks might become about even. A good scouting team will become 10x as important as where you pick.

In the future, there might be a few unanimous high school players who are obvious #1 picks (Lebron), but there will be more spectacular busts like Kwame Brown, Eddy Curry, Robert Swift, etc.

Even guys like Jermanine O'Neal and Stephen Jackson took forever to develop.

100% ..... We need to get some win-now players to improve the culture of the franchise. No more timeline, no more developing new draft picks, no more 19 year olds. That **** is done. Time to get some legit talent that can help us transition to the next level.

If that means trading our 2020 unprotected pick as well to grab an all-star .... Do IT

The time is this offseason !!! Time to be bold !

^this. How is every Suns fan not tired of having to rely on rookies over and over again?

If there are no players to trade for then I would even consider doing what teams in the NFL do and just acquire future 1st rd picks while trading down or trading out of the draft altogether because of bad this draft is.

And for the record, I don't think there's any chance the Suns can get an "all-star" for their pick but I think getting at least a starting caliber player should be feasible.

[sunsbum]

Clarke certainly is a polarizing prospect isn't he? He's literally everything we need next to Ayton except.....he can't shoot. On one hand, can we afford to put another non shooter on the floor? But then again, this kid is so polished and checks so many boxes already, just lock him in a gym for 2 years and hope he comes out with a shot. That being said...I think bender will be here next year (and better) and our need for shooting is too great. Right now I'm personally leaning twords garland or white...I also like the kid from Virginia tech.

[bwgood77]

Trade the pick.

Option 1, 2, 3 and 4 should be to trade the pick. Only option 5 should be to actually make a selection with it.

I really think the chances of anyone that’s available at #6 in this weak being good at some point is really low.

No, that's when you make bad trades. If there is a good trade to be made for the pick, sure, but I will never advocate to just "trade the pick".

I like the Suns chances in trading for an established NBA veteran than drafting someone especially with how awful the Suns scouting is.

If the pick has that much value, sure. The scouting and decision makers will be quite changed.

[Kerrsed]

Kerrsed, your NBA Combine stat link from nba.com has his shuttle run at 3.05, so I assume that is right and not this guy's.

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Ohh.....i dont know. I took a screen shot when they showed it during their interview with Clarke, and it too said 3.54.



So either one could be wrong.

[darealjuice]

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I thought this was interesting. Reddish has all of the tools in the world, but to call his season a Duke disappointing would be a bit of an understatement. He really didn't even step up to fill the gap when Zion was out toward the end of the regular season. I'm sure he'll look good in open gym workouts though.

[Domejandro]

Every time I see Tacos measurements I laugh. I really hope he makes a team just for the pure lols

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Saw someone on Twitter suggest we draft Bol at #6 and Tacko at #32, so this could be the Official Tacko Bol draft.

I've been lobbying for Minnesota to select Tacko Falls purely out of novelty for the fans.

[Kerrsed]

Every time I see Tacos measurements I laugh. I really hope he makes a team just for the pure lols

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Saw someone on Twitter suggest we draft Bol at #6 and Tacko at #32, so this could be the Official Tacko Bol draft.

I've been lobbying for Minnesota to select Tacko Falls purely out of novelty for the fans.

I really havent been seeing him in any of the mocks.

I'd totally blow a 2nd round pick on him. Should be able to come off the bench and provide at least 10 minutes of defense a game, which is what most teams are looking for when their C is resting. Just need a guy to go in and protect the rim so the opponents dont run up the score while the A-team is catching a quick breather.

[Saberestar]

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[WeekapaugGroove]

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I thought this was interesting. Reddish has all of the tools in the world, but to call his season a Duke disappointing would be a bit of an understatement. He really didn't even step up to fill the gap when Zion was out toward the end of the regular season. I'm sure he'll look good in open gym workouts though.

Not sure if I remember a prospect where I like the idea of what he should be so much but hate the actual player that he was.

I was high on him early but he's pretty much off my board after actually playing.

If I were Atlanta and he was sitting there I'd be tempted to grab him and hope his freshman year was an fluke.
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[alamin330]

Spencer Dinwiddie + 17th for 6th, Josh and Bucks future pick.
Who says no?

The Brooklyn Nets

I think the nets say yes and suns say no. This is a terrible trade for suns. 6th pick and Josh a former 4th pick with potential still (no matter what anyone says) and a future pick for ball hogging, no more upside, Dinwiddie and a lower pick in a terrible draft. Smh