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In Phoenix, Oubre already knows fellow Kansas product Josh Jackson and star Devin Booker, the latter of whom was in his high school recruiting class. Booker went two picks ahead of Oubre in the 2015 NBA Draft.

Oubre expects to fit in well with a wing-heavy rotation that aims to use his length and athleticism to its advantage.

“Defense leads to offense. Just focus on that, just continue to keep that gameplan solid,” Oubre said. “I’m a confident individual but one thing I know I can control everyday is my effort and my energy. I will do that each and every night. My offense will follow. I’m not really worried about that because I know I can play.”

Saberestar wrote:

In Phoenix, Oubre already knows fellow Kansas product Josh Jackson and star Devin Booker, the latter of whom was in his high school recruiting class. Booker went two picks ahead of Oubre in the 2015 NBA Draft.

Oubre expects to fit in well with a wing-heavy rotation that aims to use his length and athleticism to its advantage.

“Defense leads to offense. Just focus on that, just continue to keep that gameplan solid,” Oubre said. “I’m a confident individual but one thing I know I can control everyday is my effort and my energy. I will do that each and every night. My offense will follow. I’m not really worried about that because I know I can play.”

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ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:

sunsfever68 wrote:I think there is minutes for everyone in the future especially since Troy Daniels, Jamal Crawford, and Ryan Anderson will be gone next year.

You can play Booker Bridges Warren Jackson Oubre at the 2-4 spots
Melton and Okobo at the 1

Ayton and Holmes at the 5

Are we sure Crawford's not returning next season?

bwgood77 wrote:

Kerrsed wrote:

stoo wrote:
You think it means he s stayin.. That was the deal with our front office and him prior to trade proabbly (or right after)

Yeah, i think he is staying. We got rid of our "Power Forward", and Warren has been playing great as our makeshift undersized stretch 4, so that creates opportunity at SF. Pretty much SG/SF/PF is position-less on our team. We have Warren/Bridges/Jackson and now Oubre that will be in the game playing anyone of those positions (Maybe notso much SG when Booker is in).

I think he might stay if we play well, but given we didn't ask for him initially I am guessing our plan isn't to keep him.

darealjuice wrote:

bwgood77 wrote:

Kerrsed wrote:
Yeah, i think he is staying. We got rid of our "Power Forward", and Warren has been playing great as our makeshift undersized stretch 4, so that creates opportunity at SF. Pretty much SG/SF/PF is position-less on our team. We have Warren/Bridges/Jackson and now Oubre that will be in the game playing anyone of those positions (Maybe notso much SG when Booker is in).

I think he might stay if we play well, but given we didn't ask for him initially I am guessing our plan isn't to keep him.

Weren't the Wizards getting Ariza and 2 second round picks for Rivers and Oubre in the original deal though? It's possible he wasn't going to us in the original trade because the Wizards were trying to get more than just Ariza for him.

bwgood77 wrote:

darealjuice wrote:

bwgood77 wrote:
I think he might stay if we play well, but given we didn't ask for him initially I am guessing our plan isn't to keep him.

Weren't the Wizards getting Ariza and 2 second round picks for Rivers and Oubre in the original deal though? It's possible he wasn't going to us in the original trade because the Wizards were trying to get more than just Ariza for him.

Yes, but if we really wanted him it seems we would have been willing to throw in 2 second round picks ourselves. He may fit in well and may be reasonably priced if we want him but I don't know if we have any definitive plans to keep him already.

darealjuice wrote:

bwgood77 wrote:

darealjuice wrote:
Weren't the Wizards getting Ariza and 2 second round picks for Rivers and Oubre in the original deal though? It's possible he wasn't going to us in the original trade because the Wizards were trying to get more than just Ariza for him.

Yes, but if we really wanted him it seems we would have been willing to throw in 2 second round picks ourselves. He may fit in well and may be reasonably priced if we want him but I don't know if we have any definitive plans to keep him already.

Maybe. I don't think we'd offer more just to do it though, especially when we thought we were getting a comparable player in Dillon Brooks, and our second round pick(s) are more valuable than a potential playoff team like Memphis. We only had to give up a mid-second round pick for Payton last year, so I wouldn't be surprised if we felt a high second round pick was too much for Oubre.

bwgood77 wrote:Sure, I think they may have had them pretty equal and because of contracts wanted Brooks. I just was responding to Kerrsed who said he thought Oubre was staying, that I don't think anything is definitive. It's nice to have wing depth but we don't have much depth in other areas, so I think we will possibly play it out in RFA and see what happens, or may deal him if we get a really good offer. But he may be a great fit, give us more depth, etc. I don't really see him ever starting though and he may want to start somewhere. Though I'm not sure where he would start except for maybe the Hawks or 1 or 2 other teams.

Blonde wrote:I said trade asset initially but now I think we’ll keep him throughout the season. I don’t see a scenario where we would keep both Oubre and Jackson however. Wouldn’t mind moving forward with Oubre if we can get a decent trade for Josh returning either a PG or PF.

Fo-Real wrote:

Blonde wrote:I said trade asset initially but now I think we’ll keep him throughout the season. I don’t see a scenario where we would keep both Oubre and Jackson however. Wouldn’t mind moving forward with Oubre if we can get a decent trade for Josh returning either a PG or PF.

Basically one small forward (Ariza) for another (Oubre), we already were operating with this mix. I dont see a reason why he and Josh cancel each other out so to speak. Now if you mean we can get a more useful player with one or the other as an asset then cool.

Illmatic12 wrote:

Qwigglez wrote:

Kelly's high fg% at the rim is due to wide open dunks in transition and things of that nature, not because he's good on drives. His off-ball game is pretty solid in terms of making opportunistic cuts and knowing how to fill lanes, when Wall & Beal are on the court he could sneak around unnoticed and get himself easy baskets. The issue is any type of contested layup/dunk attempt.

He is a poor finisher on drives because 1) he hasn't developed his right hand at all and 2) he's a strictly 2-footed jumper and unable to explode off of 1 foot. Simply put, Oubre's lack of balance around the basket is the most frustrating thing about his game - athleticism without body control is nothing. You'll see that's what separates him from someone like say, TJ Warren who has a natural sense of balance and shooting touch.

Oubre is a very hyperactive player on the court, both in good and bad ways. He has unnaturally quick reflexes for a player his size and can make Kawhi-esque deflections due to his length and twitchy hands+feet. When he's sicc'ed on smaller opposing PGs he turns into an attack dog and can absolutely harrass them with length and quickness . Examples:

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That does NOT mean he's a plus defender though - he loses focus off the ball and usually lets players drive by him in 1v1 situations (the only explanation I can think of is that he's self-conscious about getting into foul trouble). Unfortunately he realized, as Jabari Parker put it, they don't play guys to play defense and despite lip service in interviews he seems more interested in being a scorer in his contract year.


Despite his overall inconsistency KO will definitely have some big games every now and then where his threes are falling. His jumper is mechanically beautiful from the waist up but he often doesn't set his feet before shooting, which should be an easy fix if he can ever get it down.

KO was not an issue in the locker room and was well liked by his teammates. Wall and Beal particularly were sad to see him go bc they worked out in the summers and spent a lot of time off the court. Markieff loved him (Kansas Jayhawks fraternity), he even hung out with the G-League guys on our team. The issue is his lack of awareness ON the court about his game and understanding what he is good at, it has nothing to do with any locker room friction. Kelly aspires to be a flashy scorer and fashion modeling mogul , and I think the interest in growing his "brand" has sort of blurred the vision of how he should be playing. He has to embrace that young Ariza or Marcus Smart-type role instead of trying to be a Devin Booker or Jason Tatum in this league.

All told, I very much enjoyed Oubre's personality and general verve for life - I wish him the best and will continue checking in to follow his career. He's a hard-worker and will be well-liked around the Phoenix organization once people get to know him (assuming they don't trade him again). Also, if you attend Suns games expect to see a devoted fan section of teenage girls in Oubre jerseys and middle aged aunties screaming his name

Fo-Real wrote:

Blonde wrote:I said trade asset initially but now I think we’ll keep him throughout the season. I don’t see a scenario where we would keep both Oubre and Jackson however. Wouldn’t mind moving forward with Oubre if we can get a decent trade for Josh returning either a PG or PF.

Basically one small forward (Ariza) for another (Oubre), we already were operating with this mix. I dont see a reason why he and Josh cancel each other out so to speak. Now if you mean we can get a more useful player with one or the other as an asset then cool.

Blonde wrote:

Fo-Real wrote:

Blonde wrote:I said trade asset initially but now I think we’ll keep him throughout the season. I don’t see a scenario where we would keep both Oubre and Jackson however. Wouldn’t mind moving forward with Oubre if we can get a decent trade for Josh returning either a PG or PF.

Basically one small forward (Ariza) for another (Oubre), we already were operating with this mix. I dont see a reason why he and Josh cancel each other out so to speak. Now if you mean we can get a more useful player with one or the other as an asset then cool.

Sure we were operating with this many SFs before, but we were never going to keep Ariza beyond this season. From an asset and money perspective we don’t want to invest in both long term when both are projected to fill similar roles off the bench. So, we should try to use one to address our weak areas.