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The Suns have been rebuilding ever since Steve Nash left the team 6 years ago. They've had a ton of draft picks, with only Devin Booker and potentially Ayton panning out. My plan if I was GM

-Sign Terry Rozier to a near max deal- 4 years 70 mil ( same deal as Bledsoe)
-They will have a very high draft pick and assuming Zion, Barrett and Morent will do top 3, I think they should trade down for Cam Reddish. By trading down, they should include Josh Jackson in the deal. Assuming the Suns have the 2nd overall pick and lets say the Hawks have the 5th, we trade our second pick and second round pick along with josh Jackson for John Collins and the 5th overall pick. If a deal like this made itself availible, I think they should do it. They need better character guys along with more veterans.

-Dragon Bender needs to go to free agency ( only has this year left on his deal)
-Tj Warren traded to Cleveland for Cedi Osman and Matthew Dellavdova.
Let J-smooth, and Troy Daniels walk and Ubrue walk
-Sign Jeff Green to a 2year 10-12 mil deal
-sign Austin Rivers to a similar deal
-Sign Robin Lopez to a small deal

Ayton/Lopez
Collins/ J Green
Osman/Reddish
Booker/Bridges/Rivers
Rozier/Delladova/Rivers

11 players with a mixture of experience, talent, grit and shooting. Ayton and Collins would be lethal, and Rozier and Booker would be a formidable backcourt. I feel these are reasonable moves to make and not out of this world impossible.

Thoughts?

1. I wouldn't sign Rozier. He is playing pretty bad and he doesn't deserve a contract like that IMO. I prefer Tyler Johnson over him.

2. I LOVE John Collins and I would trade the pick for him, but NO WAY the Hawks do that. Not even for the pick alone, no swap. He is untouchable, ask in the Hawks board.

3. I wouldn't trade Warren for Osman and Dellavedova. Warren is the better player and on a great contract.

4. I don't like your acquisitions in FA. Not a fan of any of those players. Austin Rivers?

For Collins to become available I think Hawks need to win Zion, which is possible.

Crives wrote:For Collins to become available I think Hawks need to win Zion, which is possible.

They can play together. Easily.

The only part of your proposal I like is getting Collins. Too bad Hawks would turn us down.

provecy15 wrote:The Suns have been rebuilding ever since Steve Nash left the team 6 years ago. They've had a ton of draft picks, with only Devin Booker and potentially Ayton panning out. My plan if I was GM

-Sign Terry Rozier to a near max deal- 4 years 70 mil ( same deal as Bledsoe)
-They will have a very high draft pick and assuming Zion, Barrett and Morent will do top 3, I think they should trade down for Cam Reddish. By trading down, they should include Josh Jackson in the deal. Assuming the Suns have the 2nd overall pick and lets say the Hawks have the 5th, we trade our second pick and second round pick along with josh Jackson for John Collins and the 5th overall pick. If a deal like this made itself availible, I think they should do it. They need better character guys along with more veterans.

-Dragon Bender needs to go to free agency ( only has this year left on his deal)
-Tj Warren traded to Cleveland for Cedi Osman and Matthew Dellavdova.
Let J-smooth, and Troy Daniels walk and Ubrue walk
-Sign Jeff Green to a 2year 10-12 mil deal
-sign Austin Rivers to a similar deal
-Sign Robin Lopez to a small deal

Ayton/Lopez
Collins/ J Green
Osman/Reddish
Booker/Bridges/Rivers
Rozier/Delladova/Rivers

11 players with a mixture of experience, talent, grit and shooting. Ayton and Collins would be lethal, and Rozier and Booker would be a formidable backcourt. I feel these are reasonable moves to make and not out of this world impossible.

Thoughts?

No offense but that's turrible plan.

Stopped reading at signing rozier. Sorry

worst plan possible.

Rozier is trash ! He is back-up PG at the best. I would take our current roster for another year before adding Rozier.

Collins won't be traded by the hawks.

If Suns get 2nd I would say draft Morant, if 1st Zion. Then add some players around.

If you get Morant, let's offer Mirotic
If suns get Zion , lets offer Rubio

It is that simple.

Then you have the following

Morant - Johnson (not sure i we can salary dump him, or restructure contract)
Booker - Bridges
Oubre - Warren , Jackson
Mirotic - Bender (let hime walk if we can)
Ayton - Holmes

or

Rubio, Johnson
Booker, Bridges
Oubre, Warren, Jackson
Zion, Bender
Ayton, Holmes

Let them get comfortable with each other.

provecy15 wrote:

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The Suns have been rebuilding ever since Steve Nash left the team 6 years ago. They've had a ton of draft picks, with only Devin Booker and potentially Ayton panning out. My plan if I was GM

-Sign Terry Rozier to a near max deal- 4 years 70 mil ( same deal as Bledsoe)
-They will have a very high draft pick and assuming Zion, Barrett and Morent will do top 3, I think they should trade down for Cam Reddish. By trading down, they should include Josh Jackson in the deal. Assuming the Suns have the 2nd overall pick and lets say the Hawks have the 5th, we trade our second pick and second round pick along with josh Jackson for John Collins and the 5th overall pick. If a deal like this made itself availible, I think they should do it. They need better character guys along with more veterans.

-Dragon Bender needs to go to free agency ( only has this year left on his deal)
-Tj Warren traded to Cleveland for Cedi Osman and Matthew Dellavdova.
Let J-smooth, and Troy Daniels walk and Ubrue walk
-Sign Jeff Green to a 2year 10-12 mil deal
-sign Austin Rivers to a similar deal
-Sign Robin Lopez to a small deal

Ayton/Lopez
Collins/ J Green
Osman/Reddish
Booker/Bridges/Rivers
Rozier/Delladova/Rivers

11 players with a mixture of experience, talent, grit and shooting. Ayton and Collins would be lethal, and Rozier and Booker would be a formidable backcourt. I feel these are reasonable moves to make and not out of this world impossible.

Thoughts?

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Brandon Clarke or Zion, re-sign Oubre and probably Holmes if money is right. For pg either trade Warren and assets for a Holiday type player or try to sign Brogdon (Unless we stick with Johnson which I am okay with but prefer Tyler off the bench if possible). Lastly for pf sign a solid vet pf like Thad, Favors, Millsap, Mirotic, etc.

Hmmmm. I'm not sure if you are trolling or not. You are clearly not a Suns fan as 95% of your posts are over on the Raptors board. Austin Rivers is a complete dirtbag and I would encourage all Suns fans to boo that man religiously when he enters a game after what he's said about us earlier in the year. Jeff Green would be another career loser that wouldn't make a good impression on our young guys. I can't see Robin Lopez wanting to continue a mentor type role when he should be actively looking to join a contending team (such as the Warriors). Lastly, signing Rozier to any type of deal worth over $5M a year is a huge, huge mistake. He hasn't proven anything.

provecy15 wrote:The Suns have been rebuilding ever since Steve Nash left the team 6 years ago. They've had a ton of draft picks, with only Devin Booker and potentially Ayton panning out. My plan if I was GM

-Sign Terry Rozier to a near max deal- 4 years 70 mil ( same deal as Bledsoe)
-They will have a very high draft pick and assuming Zion, Barrett and Morent will do top 3, I think they should trade down for Cam Reddish. By trading down, they should include Josh Jackson in the deal. Assuming the Suns have the 2nd overall pick and lets say the Hawks have the 5th, we trade our second pick and second round pick along with josh Jackson for John Collins and the 5th overall pick. If a deal like this made itself availible, I think they should do it. They need better character guys along with more veterans.

-Dragon Bender needs to go to free agency ( only has this year left on his deal)
-Tj Warren traded to Cleveland for Cedi Osman and Matthew Dellavdova.
Let J-smooth, and Troy Daniels walk and Ubrue walk
-Sign Jeff Green to a 2year 10-12 mil deal
-sign Austin Rivers to a similar deal
-Sign Robin Lopez to a small deal

Ayton/Lopez
Collins/ J Green
Osman/Reddish
Booker/Bridges/Rivers
Rozier/Delladova/Rivers

11 players with a mixture of experience, talent, grit and shooting. Ayton and Collins would be lethal, and Rozier and Booker would be a formidable backcourt. I feel these are reasonable moves to make and not out of this world impossible.

Thoughts?

1. Terry Rozier would be an excellent addition. He might be backup PG on some top teams, but Suns are not aiming to 50-win next season, so I would be more than happy to see him in PHX uniform. I think better free-agent-PGs will not want to sign Suns because of Sarver factor. You can quire them only by trade, that includes 2019 1st Rd pick.

2. John Collins? No way! He's a double-double machine, proved already in 1st season, he's just too important for Hawks future. Whoever is watching Hawks games knows they are gonna build a future around Young-Collins-Huerter triangle.

3. Dragan Bender - Consensus free agent next season.

4. Cavs team is having a terrible roaster this season, so Cedi Osman looks great in his "all-around" role with a lot of freedom. I don't expect this to happen on Suns team. So I would just avoid him.
Matthew Dellavdova looks quite washed already, similar to Kyle Korver. Such guys perform well on good teams when playing a backup role. He doesn't fit Suns timeline.
I would rather pursue a veteran big who will teach Ayton C techniques. As you mentioned, one is Robin Lopez. He is definitely not the best option, but I don't know how much better you can get at this stage. Other vets are either under contract or too expensive. I would go RoLo.

5. Daniels & JJ can go, but I would keep Oubre. He looks better and better as time is flying by, so I would give him more time to prove himself.

Qwigglez wrote:Hmmmm. I'm not sure if you are trolling or not. You are clearly not a Suns fan as 95% of your posts are over on the Raptors board. Austin Rivers is a complete dirtbag and I would encourage all Suns fans to boo that man religiously when he enters a game after what he's said about us earlier in the year. Jeff Green would be another career loser that wouldn't make a good impression on our young guys. I can't see Robin Lopez wanting to continue a mentor type role when he should be actively looking to join a contending team (such as the Warriors). Lastly, signing Rozier to any type of deal worth over $5M a year is a huge, huge mistake. He hasn't proven anything.

Yes I'am a Raptors fan. However, I'm intrigued with your young talent. Playing Booker at the PG is dumb. I'm sorry, but his talents are much better suited at the off guard position. Do you guys not remember how good Rozier was in the playoffs last year? If Lebron never had a monster game against the Celtics, him and Jayson Tatum would have taken the team to the finals WITHOUT KYRIE AND HAYWARD. There will be teams lining up to get Rozier's services.

The John Collins trade would be a long shot, but depending on your pick outside of Zion, and if he could be acquired, him and Ayton would form a very good post duo for years to come.

Jeff Green is a veteran with championship experience. Bringing him in will not rock the boat on the court, but he would be a lockeroom presence which every team needs (Pau Gasol).

Have you guys watched Rivers with the Rockets? He's playing the best ball of his career!

And please...what is your reasonable plan? I'm Canadian and I love steve nash and the mid 2000's Suns team was AWESOME.

Force Sarver to sell

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Come on. Rozier near max? Jeff Green, Robin Lopez and Austin Friggin Rivers signings to rebuild the team?

Obvious trolling or just complete lack of common sense.

MathiasPW wrote:Come on. Rozier near max? Jeff Green, Robin Lopez and Austin Friggin Rivers signings to rebuild the team?

Obvious trolling or just complete lack of common sense.

Read above. These pieces are complimentary role players. You would build with Rozier, Booker, Ayton, Collins, Reddish and Bridges. Osman is a character guy....and watching him last night destroy my raptors...probably wouldn't be a bad pickup for you if possible. I can tell you in 2013 nobody thought Harden was going to be the player he is today. Morey saw it and took a risk. I'm not saying Rozier is the next Harden, but I guarantee if given a chance to start, you would have a tough young point guard who can defend and shoot.
I can promise this team would be better than the team you currently have as a year 1 or 2 of building process.

How would I rebuild the suns?...

Hmmmm.....It would really be predicated on who we would draft, But I would probably start with:

1- Draft Morant (Only IF we can't land Zion).

2- move Jackson and the Milwaukee pick to a team for Brandon Clarke in the mid to late lottery (or wherever he's slated to end up ).

In the 2nd round, Add a smart, versatile high IQ big man in Eric Paschall for depth, Defense and three point shooting.

Or IF we land Zion somehow, Or trade back in the draft for Clarke and other assets first, then in the 2nd round take Tyus Jones for point guard depth.

In free agency, IF we Draft Morant, then go get Taj Gibson, or Thaddeus Young at power forward.

Using our 5 million exception, We pick up Patrick Beverley to mentor Morant and Melton defensively, and with whatever change we have leftover, we get a knockdown shooter in Fletcher Mcgee, who is currently on the draft bubble.

But still one of the most prolific shooters in NCAA history, currently playing for Wofford.

Roll into the season, building more chemistry and experience under Kokoskov. Then sometime during midseason, We trade : Tyler Johnson's expiring contract/ T.J. Warren/ elie okobo/ 2020 first round pick top 5 protected, 2022 unprotected first for Blake Griffin.

Then we're looking at a deep, athletic, very potent and talented roster of :

POINT GUARD- Patrick Beverley/ De'anthony Melton/ Ja Morant.

SHOOTING GUARD- Devin Booker/ Mikhail Bridges/ Patrick Beverley/ Fletcher McGee.

SMALL FORWARD- Kelly Oubre/ Mikhail Bridges/ Eric Paschall.

POWER FORWARD- Blake Griffin/ Brandon Clarke/ Eric Paschall.

CENTER- De Andre Ayton/ Richaun Holmes/ Free agent???.

Ghost of Kleine wrote:How would I rebuild the suns?...

Hmmmm.....I would probably start with:

1- Draft Morant (Only IF we can't land Zion).

2- move Jackson and the Milwaukee pick to a team for Brandon Clarke in the mid to late lottery (or wherever he's slated to end up ). In the 2nd round, Add a smart, versatile high i.q. big man in Eric Paschall for depth.

Or IF we land Zion somehow, Or trade back in the draft for Clarke and other assets first, then in the 2nd round take tyus Jones for point guard depth.

In free agency, IF we Draft Morant, then go get Taj Gibson, or Thaddeus Young at power forward.

Using our 5 million exception, We pick up Patrick Beverley to mentor Morant and Melton defensively, and with whatever change we have leftover, we get a knockdown shooter in Fletcher Mcgee, who is currently on the draft bubble.

But still one of the most prolific shooters in ncaa history, currently playing for Wofford.

Roll into the season, building more chemistry and experience under Kokoskov. Sometime during midseason, We then trade : Tyler Johnson's expiring contract/ T.J. Warren/ elie okobo/ 2020 first round pick top 5 protected, 2022 unprotected first for Blake Griffin.

Then we're looking at a deep, athletic, very potent and talented roster of:

Thanks for offering your plan!

Wait, you mean all that losing on purpose in this past decade hasn't rebuilt the team already?

Oh OK.