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ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:

Revived wrote:The fact that James Jones is making these decisions on the GM seem pretty telling that he’s going to be the President of Basketball Ops or some type of role like that.

Whoever the GM is will have to report to both Jones and Sarver.

I don’t think the best candidates will run to a situation like that. The Pelicans are getting guys from the Rockets, Warriors etc front offices to interview while the best the Suns have had has been....Kevin McHale and Jim Paxson.

That’s pretty telling.

Then make Bukstein GM. If Jones is okay with it, I'm okay with it.

If Trajan Langdon wants to come in here and be sandwiched between Jones and Bukstein, that's fine, but I don't expect that's what these guys want.

lilfishi22 wrote:

bwgood77 wrote:

BobbieL wrote:Griffin interviewing with the Pelicans. Suns have been very quiet.

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Despite all these young players and a legit star in Booker, it's a real shame if we can't attract a good GM while less attractive jobs (imo) like the Pels GM role is getting more looks which is reflection on this franchise/owner

bwgood77 wrote:

lilfishi22 wrote:

bwgood77 wrote:

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Despite all these young players and a legit star in Booker, it's a real shame if we can't attract a good GM while less attractive jobs (imo) like the Pels GM role is getting more looks which is reflection on this franchise/owner

Pels would be a good one I think. They have the biggest trade piece since KG and a fairly high lottery pick with no bad contracts and a good owner.

Revived wrote:

ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:

Revived wrote:The fact that James Jones is making these decisions on the GM seem pretty telling that he’s going to be the President of Basketball Ops or some type of role like that.

Whoever the GM is will have to report to both Jones and Sarver.

I don’t think the best candidates will run to a situation like that. The Pelicans are getting guys from the Rockets, Warriors etc front offices to interview while the best the Suns have had has been....Kevin McHale and Jim Paxson.

That’s pretty telling.

Then make Bukstein GM. If Jones is okay with it, I'm okay with it.

If Trajan Langdon wants to come in here and be sandwiched between Jones and Bukstein, that's fine, but I don't expect that's what these guys want.

If they want one of these top guys from the Warriors or Celtics who have been the righthand man for Myers & Morey respectfully, then James Jones will have to go or take a demotion.

James Jones isn’t qualified at all nor does he have the experience to be one of the top decision makers of a franchise.

lilfishi22 wrote:

Revived wrote:

ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:
Then make Bukstein GM. If Jones is okay with it, I'm okay with it.

If Trajan Langdon wants to come in here and be sandwiched between Jones and Bukstein, that's fine, but I don't expect that's what these guys want.

If they want one of these top guys from the Warriors or Celtics who have been the righthand man for Myers & Morey respectfully, then James Jones will have to go or take a demotion.

James Jones isn’t qualified at all nor does he have the experience to be one of the top decision makers of a franchise.

Not sure of what Jones' role is going forward but he can't be one of the top decision makers. As you mentioned, he's just not qualified nor does he have the experience. I don't mind him being a vice-POBO or assistant GM because of his apparent relationship with players but as a nuanced, experienced and high level decision maker, I just don't think he's there yet.

bwgood77 wrote:

lilfishi22 wrote:

Revived wrote:If they want one of these top guys from the Warriors or Celtics who have been the righthand man for Myers & Morey respectfully, then James Jones will have to go or take a demotion.

James Jones isn’t qualified at all nor does he have the experience to be one of the top decision makers of a franchise.

Not sure of what Jones' role is going forward but he can't be one of the top decision makers. As you mentioned, he's just not qualified nor does he have the experience. I don't mind him being a vice-POBO or assistant GM because of his apparent relationship with players but as a nuanced, experienced and high level decision maker, I just don't think he's there yet.

I think you guys are fooling yourselves if you think they are conducting some real search and doing real interviews. We would have likely heard about some of it, you know, like you do from other teams? I don't think we've interviewed anyone. I think they are just waiting for the season to end to make it official. They will probably just elevate Jones from VP to President of Basketball Ops...and Bukstein will be GM. They will probably both be in on decisions. Unless there is some other surprise name that is out there that they are waiting to announce.

But it appears they already know what they are going to do. I just hope they hire some good scouts and upgrade their training staff and get back to preventive training.

Kerrsed wrote:

bwgood77 wrote:

lilfishi22 wrote:Not sure of what Jones' role is going forward but he can't be one of the top decision makers. As you mentioned, he's just not qualified nor does he have the experience. I don't mind him being a vice-POBO or assistant GM because of his apparent relationship with players but as a nuanced, experienced and high level decision maker, I just don't think he's there yet.

I think you guys are fooling yourselves if you think they are conducting some real search and doing real interviews. We would have likely heard about some of it, you know, like you do from other teams? I don't think we've interviewed anyone. I think they are just waiting for the season to end to make it official. They will probably just elevate Jones from VP to President of Basketball Ops...and Bukstein will be GM. They will probably both be in on decisions. Unless there is some other surprise name that is out there that they are waiting to announce.

But it appears they already know what they are going to do. I just hope they hire some good scouts and upgrade their training staff and get back to preventive training.

Exactly. it will be a GM by committee kind of thing. We will bring in a guy thats good at whatever Sarver deems as Jones/Bukakistien weak spots and it will be a 3 headed hydra monster in control of the moves made.

bwgood77 wrote:

lilfishi22 wrote:

Revived wrote:If they want one of these top guys from the Warriors or Celtics who have been the righthand man for Myers & Morey respectfully, then James Jones will have to go or take a demotion.

James Jones isn’t qualified at all nor does he have the experience to be one of the top decision makers of a franchise.

Not sure of what Jones' role is going forward but he can't be one of the top decision makers. As you mentioned, he's just not qualified nor does he have the experience. I don't mind him being a vice-POBO or assistant GM because of his apparent relationship with players but as a nuanced, experienced and high level decision maker, I just don't think he's there yet.

I think you guys are fooling yourselves if you think they are conducting some real search and doing real interviews. We would have likely heard about some of it, you know, like you do from other teams? I don't think we've interviewed anyone. I think they are just waiting for the season to end to make it official. They will probably just elevate Jones from VP to President of Basketball Ops...and Bukstein will be GM. They will probably both be in on decisions. Unless there is some other surprise name that is out there that they are waiting to announce.

But it appears they already know what they are going to do. I just hope they hire some good scouts and upgrade their training staff and get back to preventive training.

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lilfishi22 wrote:

Revived wrote:

ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:
Then make Bukstein GM. If Jones is okay with it, I'm okay with it.

If Trajan Langdon wants to come in here and be sandwiched between Jones and Bukstein, that's fine, but I don't expect that's what these guys want.

If they want one of these top guys from the Warriors or Celtics who have been the righthand man for Myers & Morey respectfully, then James Jones will have to go or take a demotion.

James Jones isn’t qualified at all nor does he have the experience to be one of the top decision makers of a franchise.

Not sure of what Jones' role is going forward but he can't be one of the top decision makers. As you mentioned, he's just not qualified nor does he have the experience. I don't mind him being a vice-POBO or assistant GM because of his apparent relationship with players but as a nuanced, experienced and high level decision maker, I just don't think he's there yet.

Sarver has discussed with prospective job candidates a senior advising role that will allow interim GM James Jones to continue in a lead front-office capacity with decision-making power, league sources said. Jones had sat in on interviews, along with Arizona Cardinals All-Pro receiver Larry Fitzgerald, league sources said.

lilfishi22 wrote:Interesting. His record isn't perfect but no one is. He does have a lot of experience though which would be useful in this very inexperienced front office.

Kerrsed wrote:

lilfishi22 wrote:Interesting. His record isn't perfect but no one is. He does have a lot of experience though which would be useful in this very inexperienced front office.

So looks the the Hydra Theory is real. Not looking at hiring a GM, just add in another voice to the FO.

Beggars cant be choosers. I do believe that there is probably a large amount of great GM candidates out there that want nothing to do with our Organization and probably passed on even interviewing here. Im actually surprised Bowers is interested, as he is a solid name. Made some great moves as GM of the Pistons that i really like (Gambling on Blake Griffin when his value was low and when i was saying the Suns should snag him, trading Ilyasova/Jennings to Orlando for Tobias Harris). During his time as the Hornets GM, he manage to pull off trading P.J. Brown and J.R. Smith to Chicago for Tyson Chandler. He also started life in the NBA as an advance scout and has hit big during the draft as GM with names like David West/Chris Paul/Darren Collison for the Hornets and drafting Dinwiddie/Stanley Johnson for the Pistons.

He has experience in every level of the FO from being an Advanced Scout to Assistant Coach to Head Coach to President of Operations to GM.

Something cool i found that i never knew really existed for GM's, Basketball-Reference has a breakdown for every move he was behind during his time as GM. Pretty cool to see and interesting!

https://www.basketball-reference.com/executives/bowerje99x.html

The question i have is if he does get hired, will this really change things? Sarvers still the man in control of everybody and everything and we know from past experiences that it doest matter what anybody says or thinks, Sarver has final say and will do what he wants in the end. I guess it at least helps to have someone (Considered around the league as smart and a great guy) in Sarvers ear and around him to help try to influence decisions.