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Re: Welcome Ricky Rubio 

Post#381 » by b-ball forever » Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:34 pm

Good thing the FIBA WC is played in September.

Cuz if the tournament was before contract signing his value woulda been higher and likely cost more
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Post#382 » by Tankfest2018 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:01 pm

Crives wrote:Can’t wait for that Ricky/Ayton pick and roll with Saric/Book spotting up.

I bet a lot of us had that thought. We have a legit floor general again. I'm waiting for people to start minimizing his performance. "yeah but..."
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Post#383 » by El Hespiritu » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:15 pm

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Crives wrote:Can’t wait for that Ricky/Ayton pick and roll with Saric/Book spotting up.

I bet a lot of us had that thought. We have a legit floor general again. I'm waiting for people to start minimizing his performance. "yeah but..."
Yeah but he doesn't jump inches enough to my taste when shooting.

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Post#384 » by Johnny Firpo » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:59 am

Can't wait to watch the new Suns with him. If Booker buys into the team concept and the fact that Ricky needs the ball in his hand quite a bit, the Spaniard will actually help him get to the next level.
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Post#385 » by Saberestar » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:48 pm

In eight games on the tournament, Rubio averaged 16.4 points, 6.0 assists, 4.6 rebounds and 1.5 steals while averaging 38.7% from beyond the arc.

Can he average around those numbers next season for the Suns? That would be huge.

If you think about it, we have only a couple of perimeter players that need the ball on their hands on offense (Rubio and Booker). Jerome is just a rookie. So there is a chance.

Ayton and Oubre are more finishers than creators. Saric can do a bit of everything.

Bridges, Cam, Baynes, Kaminsky...all of them usually play off the ball.
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Post#386 » by darmani » Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:13 pm

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Post#387 » by Biff » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:18 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Biff wrote:I've always thought Rubio was underrated. He plays the game the right away and does a lot of the little things that go unnoticed. The ultimate team player. I haven't understood the criticism the Suns have received regarding the contract they gave him. I thought it was our best move all offseason.


He's worth it if they allow him to control the ball and run the offense and Booker doesn't dominate the ball too much when Rubio is on the floor, rendering Rubio useless. That's the only reason I thought he might not be the best fit, is because Booker might dominate the ball too much. He should be good for everyone on the team when he handles the ball though and is solid defensively.


A fair point and I agree, he needs the ball in his hands to maximize his playmaking ability. Booker vastly improved his playmaking and passing but he still turns it over a bit too much. Rubio is a much better passer at this point. Hopefully Monty finds a good balance. I don't think Rubio was used very well in Utah and he was much more effective in Minnesota. Wiggins owes the dude a lot of money because once Rubio left he turned into a complete scrub.
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Re: Welcome Ricky Rubio 

Post#388 » by jcsunsfan » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:49 pm

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bwgood77 wrote:
Biff wrote:I've always thought Rubio was underrated. He plays the game the right away and does a lot of the little things that go unnoticed. The ultimate team player. I haven't understood the criticism the Suns have received regarding the contract they gave him. I thought it was our best move all offseason.


He's worth it if they allow him to control the ball and run the offense and Booker doesn't dominate the ball too much when Rubio is on the floor, rendering Rubio useless. That's the only reason I thought he might not be the best fit, is because Booker might dominate the ball too much. He should be good for everyone on the team when he handles the ball though and is solid defensively.


A fair point and I agree, he needs the ball in his hands to maximize his playmaking ability. Booker vastly improved his playmaking and passing but he still turns it over a bit too much. Rubio is a much better passer at this point. Hopefully Monty finds a good balance. I don't think Rubio was used very well in Utah and he was much more effective in Minnesota. Wiggins owes the dude a lot of money because once Rubio left he turned into a complete scrub.

This will go both ways. Rubio should be the primary ball-handler, and Booker the secondary. Booker should not have to work as hard and get open looks with Rubio feeding him the ball. But if Rubio does not consistently get Booker the ball, there will be problems. Booker is still the star of this team and should be the primary scorer.
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Re: Welcome Ricky Rubio 

Post#389 » by bigfoot » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:09 am

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Biff wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
He's worth it if they allow him to control the ball and run the offense and Booker doesn't dominate the ball too much when Rubio is on the floor, rendering Rubio useless. That's the only reason I thought he might not be the best fit, is because Booker might dominate the ball too much. He should be good for everyone on the team when he handles the ball though and is solid defensively.


A fair point and I agree, he needs the ball in his hands to maximize his playmaking ability. Booker vastly improved his playmaking and passing but he still turns it over a bit too much. Rubio is a much better passer at this point. Hopefully Monty finds a good balance. I don't think Rubio was used very well in Utah and he was much more effective in Minnesota. Wiggins owes the dude a lot of money because once Rubio left he turned into a complete scrub.

This will go both ways. Rubio should be the primary ball-handler, and Booker the secondary. Booker should not have to work as hard and get open looks with Rubio feeding him the ball. But if Rubio does not consistently get Booker the ball, there will be problems. Booker is still the star of this team and should be the primary scorer.


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Re: Welcome Ricky Rubio 

Post#390 » by lilfishi22 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:39 am

Booker will get his touches, don't you worry about that.
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Post#391 » by Biff » Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:00 pm

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Biff wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
He's worth it if they allow him to control the ball and run the offense and Booker doesn't dominate the ball too much when Rubio is on the floor, rendering Rubio useless. That's the only reason I thought he might not be the best fit, is because Booker might dominate the ball too much. He should be good for everyone on the team when he handles the ball though and is solid defensively.


A fair point and I agree, he needs the ball in his hands to maximize his playmaking ability. Booker vastly improved his playmaking and passing but he still turns it over a bit too much. Rubio is a much better passer at this point. Hopefully Monty finds a good balance. I don't think Rubio was used very well in Utah and he was much more effective in Minnesota. Wiggins owes the dude a lot of money because once Rubio left he turned into a complete scrub.

This will go both ways. Rubio should be the primary ball-handler, and Booker the secondary. Booker should not have to work as hard and get open looks with Rubio feeding him the ball. But if Rubio does not consistently get Booker the ball, there will be problems. Booker is still the star of this team and should be the primary scorer.


Look at Wiggins' stats the last year Rubio was in Minnesota and then the following year. Dude dropped off big time. I think Booker is going to love playing with Rubio.
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Post#392 » by In2ition » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:07 pm

Biff wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:
Biff wrote:
A fair point and I agree, he needs the ball in his hands to maximize his playmaking ability. Booker vastly improved his playmaking and passing but he still turns it over a bit too much. Rubio is a much better passer at this point. Hopefully Monty finds a good balance. I don't think Rubio was used very well in Utah and he was much more effective in Minnesota. Wiggins owes the dude a lot of money because once Rubio left he turned into a complete scrub.

This will go both ways. Rubio should be the primary ball-handler, and Booker the secondary. Booker should not have to work as hard and get open looks with Rubio feeding him the ball. But if Rubio does not consistently get Booker the ball, there will be problems. Booker is still the star of this team and should be the primary scorer.


Look at Wiggins' stats the last year Rubio was in Minnesota and then the following year. Dude dropped off big time. I think Booker is going to love playing with Rubio.

I'm hoping we can add Bridges, Oubre and Johnson to the list too.
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Post#393 » by jcsunsfan » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:47 pm

The idea for Rubio would be 12p 12 a 5r 2s.

Let Book and Ayton score in the 20's and get Oubre and Bridges into the high teens.
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Post#394 » by Biff » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:21 pm

jcsunsfan wrote:The idea for Rubio would be 12p 12 a 5r 2s.

Let Book and Ayton score in the 20's and get Oubre and Bridges into the high teens.


I agree, though 10 and 10 might be a bit more realistic. I'd love it if he has a kind of leap Nash took when he came to the Suns and surprised us all with a 12 and 12 season though.
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Post#395 » by Andri » Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:08 pm

jcsunsfan wrote:The idea for Rubio would be 12p 12 a 5r 2s.

Let Book and Ayton score in the 20's and get Oubre and Bridges into the high teens.


Just for the lulz.

There is only one player in the history of NBA with that statline, achieved just for 1 season.

And it was some random guy called... Magic Johnson :D
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Post#396 » by bwgood77 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:10 pm

Andri wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:The idea for Rubio would be 12p 12 a 5r 2s.

Let Book and Ayton score in the 20's and get Oubre and Bridges into the high teens.


Just for the lulz.

There is only one player in the history of NBA with that statline, achieved just for 1 season.

And it was some random guy called... Magic Johnson :D


Yeah, that's a tad unrealistic.
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Post#397 » by RiRuSuns » Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:40 pm

Andri wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:The idea for Rubio would be 12p 12 a 5r 2s.

Let Book and Ayton score in the 20's and get Oubre and Bridges into the high teens.


Just for the lulz.

There is only one player in the history of NBA with that statline, achieved just for 1 season.

And it was some random guy called... Magic Johnson :D


Rubio isn't some random guy though. He's a reigning World's MVP so put some respek on it here. Anyway I think 12 ppg a tad too low. I'd up it to 14, drop assists to 10 or 11, rebs to 4 and steals to 1.5.
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Post#398 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:23 pm

RiRuSuns wrote:
Andri wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:The idea for Rubio would be 12p 12 a 5r 2s.

Let Book and Ayton score in the 20's and get Oubre and Bridges into the high teens.


Just for the lulz.

There is only one player in the history of NBA with that statline, achieved just for 1 season.

And it was some random guy called... Magic Johnson :D


Rubio isn't some random guy though. He's a reigning World's MVP so put some respek on it here. Anyway I think 12 ppg a tad too low. I'd up it to 14, drop assists to 10 or 11, rebs to 4 and steals to 1.5.


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Post#399 » by jcsunsfan » Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:53 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Andri wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:The idea for Rubio would be 12p 12 a 5r 2s.

Let Book and Ayton score in the 20's and get Oubre and Bridges into the high teens.


Just for the lulz.

There is only one player in the history of NBA with that statline, achieved just for 1 season.

And it was some random guy called... Magic Johnson :D


Yeah, that's a tad unrealistic.

Ok. Drop the rebounds to 3. Wasn’t really focused on that number anyway.
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Post#400 » by LesGrossman » Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:04 am

As i said before, the biggest things he'll do for this team are not reflected in any of those numbers. Measure his contribution in one relevant stat: W/L.
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