Ghost of Kleine wrote:Currently the only thing that could possibly derail any plans for trading with Boston would be if Atlanta really does like Hayward enough to accept Bostons' proposal of the 6th pick for Hayward/ 14? 26? Either way, Perhaps we could still trade the 10th pick to Atlanta at that point for the 24 and 26. Or as you mentioned, The 10th pick for the Hart/ 13/ 39th pick?
Then fill out our roster depth with low cost rookie scale contracts?
39- Xavier Tillman or Paul Reed or Reggie Perry?
Nah, Atlanta isnt the only threat. Detroit/NY/Washington could see that the players they were hoping would be there are gone and decide that Boston's package of picks are worth more than just a single player that they arnt enamored with.
And if we did the NO trade, i doubt they would throw in the 2nd round pick, because we would be straight stealing Hart for NO to only move up 3 spots. And if we got Hart i think we choose Bey over Banes. Let me clarify, i think Bey over Banes will be the choice no matter what, but also Hart is a SG/SF. (Little undersized at 6'5 for a SF, but he can play there if need be). Dont see them grabbing Banes who is the same size and would be playing the same exact role. Bey on the other hand is a good 6'8 and is mostly a SF that can also cover PF if need be.[/quote]
My bad man! I forgot about Detroit! They definitely would/ should want the Boston deal for more picks, And can easily take some salary back for all of their picks if they so choose. New York I see wanting to move up if at all possible, But you could be right on them folding for additional picks too, Why because they're the Knicks! Washington perhaps too, But the consensus of rumors have mentioned them greatly coveting BOTH Okungwu and Wiseman, But being unwilling to part with Beal in a deal to move up! So they may indeed decide to move back IF they settle for other bugs in Achiuwa or Jalen Smith, Who is a hometown sell for their fans. Also he's pretty solid defensively and the better overall offensive player ( shooter) than both Wiseman and Okungwu.
Also, I hear you on New Orleans, With Hart being much more valuable than Okobo ( really though, Who isn't at this point)? But I was pondering mostly using the 10 move up from the 13 as the value exchange for Hart ( With Hart Bridging the value) gap in the deal, But of course we'd need to add a modicum of value to even it out more. Maybe that's Okobo and Kaminsky ( give them another cheap floor spacing big on an expiring)? Maybe that's Okobo/ Kaminsky and two future ( conditional) 2nds?
As for the 2nd round pick, I'm not sure they'd really haggle over that, As they just acquired a boatload of picks from Milwaukee in the Holiday deal ( * in addition to all of the Lakers picks they still have too).And also currently still have like 4 picks ( post trade) in this draft already. And they're also sitting on a ton of cap space too. So I just figured that they don't really need the 39th pick as much for value.........Right???
As for Bane and Hart playing at the same position, I can definitely see ( and agree with) what you're saying, As Hart is 2nd on their depth chart for SF. But even though they're both good defenders, I see Bane as ultimately being the better shooter long term, And would prefer the elite shooting in the backcourt with Booker and Paul. BUT, In the grand scheme of things, I also see them really as being really interchangeable at the 2/3 situationally. And even though you're also very likely right, As you're the master of all things trade! I for my preference would just prefer a more elite shotblocking versatile and highly switchable disruptive big man in our frontcourt to give us that elite defensive compliment behind Cam, And next to Saric. Who for all his effort and tenacity and heart, Is still slow, plodding, and unfortunately couldn't jump over a paperclip to challenge athletic bigs at/ around the rim.
Now I wouldn't be at all upset IF the Suns took Saddiq though, As he absolutely is an elite shooter/ floor spacer with size at 6'8. And I do realize he's a fairly versatile smart defender too. But his lack of lateral burst and recovery does concern me a bit. So IF we did take him at 10, I'd still prefer to trade back for an additional pick to add a long athletic, multipositional rim protector too. Either of Tyler Bey or Paul Reed specifically. Or if in the later 2nd round, Either Josh Hall or Freddie Gillsepi on a two way?
** Side note, Having two Beys would be kind of Cool. One offering elite shooting/ offense. And the other offering elite ( Mikail Bridges) type disruptive defense. But also high level rim protection. I just want to address our most pressing issues via draft with low cost controlled contracts. With respect to our cap situation post Paul trade. I want us to be an elite team on both sides of the ball. Developing into a two way juggernaut!
And have in place the foundation for a potential dynasty, As both , Curry, Klay, Durant, etc. Begin their decline. A changing of the guard basically?