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Re: 2019 Free agency and trade speculation: 49 more days til season opener!

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:39 am
by Saberestar
Jarlaxle0204 wrote:When is media day? Just curious how much longer I have to wait.

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Re: 2019 Free agency and trade speculation: 43 more days til season opener!

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:04 pm
by Crives
Rubio shooting 47.6% from three throughout this tournament!

Re: 2019 Free agency and trade speculation: 43 more days til season opener!

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:44 pm
by suns12345
Crives wrote:Rubio shooting 47.6% from three throughout this tournament!

NBA midrange*

Re: 2019 Free agency and trade speculation: 43 more days til season opener!

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:34 pm
by Wilber85
suns12345 wrote:
Crives wrote:Rubio shooting 47.6% from three throughout this tournament!

NBA midrange*


Never invite this guy to a party! Debbie downer ^^^^^^^

Re: 2019 Free agency and trade speculation: 43 more days til season opener!

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:32 am
by suns12345
Wilber85 wrote:
suns12345 wrote:
Crives wrote:Rubio shooting 47.6% from three throughout this tournament!

NBA midrange*


Never invite this guy to a party! Debbie downer ^^^^^^^


Haha Wilber, i've bee your number 1 fan this off season enjoying your positive takes on our offseason, and now this :(

In all seriousness though, i'm hopeful for Rubio but what I always hear is that he is a good mid-range shooter, so hoping this percentage isnt reflecting just that and this translates to the NBA 3. Maybe his strong FIBA play gives him confidence for the season.

Re: 2019 Free agency and trade speculation: 43 more days til season opener!

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:37 pm
by MathiasPW
suns12345 wrote:
Wilber85 wrote:
suns12345 wrote: NBA midrange*


Never invite this guy to a party! Debbie downer ^^^^^^^


Haha Wilber, i've bee your number 1 fan this off season enjoying your positive takes on our offseason, and now this :(

In all seriousness though, i'm hopeful for Rubio but what I always hear is that he is a good mid-range shooter, so hoping this percentage isnt reflecting just that and this translates to the NBA 3. Maybe his strong FIBA play gives him confidence for the season.


Rubio is a TERRIBLE midrange shooter. He shot 39% from midrange last year. If you consider the non-restricted area in the paint as midrange, it gets even worse.

https://stats.nba.com/player/201937/shooting/.

FIBA has shown how dangerous he can be when he has control of the ball. It seems to also give him confidence and it has been reflecting in his shooting.

Re: 2019 Free agency and trade speculation: 43 more days til season opener!

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:58 am
by traumeel
MathiasPW wrote:
suns12345 wrote:
Wilber85 wrote:
Never invite this guy to a party! Debbie downer ^^^^^^^


Haha Wilber, i've bee your number 1 fan this off season enjoying your positive takes on our offseason, and now this :(

In all seriousness though, i'm hopeful for Rubio but what I always hear is that he is a good mid-range shooter, so hoping this percentage isnt reflecting just that and this translates to the NBA 3. Maybe his strong FIBA play gives him confidence for the season.


Rubio is a TERRIBLE midrange shooter. He shot 39% from midrange last year. If you consider the non-restricted area in the paint as midrange, it gets even worse.

https://stats.nba.com/player/201937/shooting/.

FIBA has shown how dangerous he can be when he has control of the ball. It seems to also give him confidence and it has been reflecting in his shooting.


16-24 ft. 47-109 (43.1%) (Long mid-range)

Re: 2019 Free agency and trade speculation: 43 more days til season opener!

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:06 pm
by MathiasPW
traumeel wrote:
MathiasPW wrote:
suns12345 wrote:
Haha Wilber, i've bee your number 1 fan this off season enjoying your positive takes on our offseason, and now this :(

In all seriousness though, i'm hopeful for Rubio but what I always hear is that he is a good mid-range shooter, so hoping this percentage isnt reflecting just that and this translates to the NBA 3. Maybe his strong FIBA play gives him confidence for the season.


Rubio is a TERRIBLE midrange shooter. He shot 39% from midrange last year. If you consider the non-restricted area in the paint as midrange, it gets even worse.

https://stats.nba.com/player/201937/shooting/.

FIBA has shown how dangerous he can be when he has control of the ball. It seems to also give him confidence and it has been reflecting in his shooting.


16-24 ft. 47-109 (43.1%) (Long mid-range)


there is literally a table there that says "MID-RANGE", but sure, let's pick one piece of info out of context and rebuff the argument.

Re: 2019 Free agency and trade speculation: 43 more days til season opener!

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:15 pm
by sunsbg
I hope Ty becomes a similar player to compensate for losing this guy :


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Re: 2019 Free agency and trade speculation: 43 more days til season opener!

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:21 am
by Wilber85
suns12345 wrote:
Wilber85 wrote:
suns12345 wrote: NBA midrange*


Never invite this guy to a party! Debbie downer ^^^^^^^


Haha Wilber, i've bee your number 1 fan this off season enjoying your positive takes on our offseason, and now this :(

In all seriousness though, i'm hopeful for Rubio but what I always hear is that he is a good mid-range shooter, so hoping this percentage isnt reflecting just that and this translates to the NBA 3. Maybe his strong FIBA play gives him confidence for the season.


Alright you can come to the party.

Truth is Rubio is looking good, dudes going to get an aZ girl pregnant and be a sun for the rest of his career

Re: 2019 Free agency and trade speculation: 43 more days til season opener!

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:22 am
by Wilber85
sunsbg wrote:I hope Ty becomes a similar player to compensate for losing this guy :




This dude is trash, and it’s crazy how obsessed suns fans are with this dude , and TJ Warren

Booker , Oubre , Bridges > bogdan, and warren easily

Re: 2019 Free agency and trade speculation: 43 more days til season opener!

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:56 am
by suns12345
Baynes vs. Rubio starts in 3 hours.

Go the Aussies

Re: 2019 Free agency and trade speculation: 43 more days til season opener!

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:14 am
by sunsbg
Wilber85 wrote:
sunsbg wrote:I hope Ty becomes a similar player to compensate for losing this guy :




This dude is trash, and it’s crazy how obsessed suns fans are with this dude , and TJ Warren

Booker , Oubre , Bridges > bogdan, and warren easily

Everybody on GB is obsessed with him, he's already a star in FIBA and a budding star in NBA according to some, but OK let's call him trash. :lol:

Re: 2019 Free agency and trade speculation: 43 more days til season opener!

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:57 am
by AtheJ415
sunsbg wrote:
Wilber85 wrote:
sunsbg wrote:I hope Ty becomes a similar player to compensate for losing this guy :




This dude is trash, and it’s crazy how obsessed suns fans are with this dude , and TJ Warren

Booker , Oubre , Bridges > bogdan, and warren easily

Everybody on GB is obsessed with him, he's already a star in FIBA and a budding star in NBA according to some, but OK let's call him trash. :lol:


He isn't trash but he is nowhere close to a budding star and will never be a star. He's a good role player, but he's already paid like a good role player and is the age that a good role player should be (it's not like he's 21 and already an elite role player or something), so I don't get the fascination with him. Warren was better than him rather easily actually. I agree with Wilber there. And at $10+M a year and at his age it really is more a comparison to a Warren or Rubio or the like as far as who would you rather have.

I like Bogdan and he has a good skillset for his size, but he's not an elite athlete and is not overwhelmingly skilled. I think most of the confusion comes from people not realizing how old he actually is. He's a super experienced vet, not a promising young player. He's probably the 5th best player on the Kings, who are solid but not great. That does not make you a future star.

Re: 2019 Free agency and trade speculation: 43 more days til season opener!

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:37 am
by sunsbg
AtheJ415 wrote:He isn't trash but he is nowhere close to a budding star and will never be a star. He's a good role player, but he's already paid like a good role player and is the age that a good role player should be (it's not like he's 21 and already an elite role player or something), so I don't get the fascination with him. Warren was better than him rather easily actually. I agree with Wilber there. And at $10+M a year and at his age it really is more a comparison to a Warren or Rubio or the like as far as who would you rather have.

I like Bogdan and he has a good skillset for his size, but he's not an elite athlete and is not overwhelmingly skilled. I think most of the confusion comes from people not realizing how old he actually is. He's a super experienced vet, not a promising young player. He's probably the 5th best player on the Kings, who are solid but not great. That does not make you a future star.


So 27yo is a retirement age now. You know he's probably still adapting to NBA game. I have followed him since EL and he has progressed nicely every year shooting-wise, although he was always a good shooter unlike Warren. In addition he's a creator, which Warren has never been. Has leadership qualities and plays the game the right way. All in all, I think he's in the same boat with Warren, a good 6th man. But there are certainly people, who think with increased role(probably during his next contract) he has the chance to become a star. I wouldn't say never, as I already said he's been a star in EL since 20yo and now is an international star.

P.S. The fascination of Suns fans with youth and athleticism is also amusing after so many athletic draft busts in recent years.

Re: 2019 Free agency and trade speculation: 43 more days til season opener!

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:49 am
by ImNotMcDiSwear
How would all of us feel watching the World Cup had we paid Kemba what Boston did, and Rubio, say, went to the Celtics at the price we paid him? I know I'd be feeling a little anxious, watching these games.

I feel like staggering Booker and Rubio a bit will be in the cards, especially as the season progresses, just to increase the amount of time each has the ball in their hands. I feel like Rubio, Dario and Ayton will work really well together as a trio. I think Baynes will actually do really well next to Booker. I bet we Booker paired with Baynes and Rubio with Ayton.

Re: 2019 Free agency and trade speculation: 43 more days til season opener!

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:16 am
by sunsbg
Rubio should be taking only open 3s that's for sure. Looks good in this tournament shooting from mid-range though.

Re: 2019 Free agency and trade speculation: 43 more days til season opener!

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:56 am
by lilfishi22
Farrrrr out. My Boomers are out. Rubio had a huge game. Not necessarily just from a numbers standpoint but his leadership, composure and experience really shone through. Well done Spain

Re: 2019 Free agency and trade speculation: 43 more days til season opener!

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:19 pm
by jcsunsfan
sunsbg wrote:
Wilber85 wrote:
sunsbg wrote:I hope Ty becomes a similar player to compensate for losing this guy :




This dude is trash, and it’s crazy how obsessed suns fans are with this dude , and TJ Warren

Booker , Oubre , Bridges > bogdan, and warren easily

Everybody on GB is obsessed with him, he's already a star in FIBA and a budding star in NBA according to some, but OK let's call him trash. :lol:

The problem with Bogdon is that he has a star mentality and a limited journeyman skill set. He shoots and has an ok handle. His passing is moderate. His defense is horrible. But he wants to take the last shot every time.

Re: 2019 Free agency and trade speculation: 43 more days til season opener!

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:46 pm
by sunsbg
jcsunsfan wrote:The problem with Bogdon is that he has a star mentality and a limited journeyman skill set. He shoots and has an ok handle. His passing is moderate. His defense is horrible. But he wants to take the last shot every time.


Just curious do you also consider Warren a 'limited journeyman' ?

He's pretty skilled at feeding the big man in the post, I have seen him do it for Vesely on Fenerbahce, the big men on Serbia team, also seen a comment for that once he had 10a in NBA game. I can guarantee you, he would have meshed with Ayton very well, much better than Booker.

And how did you come with 'he wants to take the last shot every time' ? He's certainly not a 'me first' player, like most Euro players btw.