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Post#841 » by Saberestar » Tue Aug 4, 2020 9:23 pm

Bogdan Bogdanovic 1/15 for the Kings. The Mavs won!
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Post#842 » by bwgood77 » Tue Aug 4, 2020 9:57 pm

Clarke vs Holmes...maybe raw stats but Clarke is one of the better defenders in the NBA be it 1 on 1, team, off ball, etc...impact on the floor type players. Raw stats is not a good way to quantify a guy like Clarke. But that's the same way with Bridges too who is often in the same way misjudged and other players overrated based on raw stats.
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Post#843 » by WeekapaugGroove » Tue Aug 4, 2020 10:42 pm

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Post#844 » by bwgood77 » Tue Aug 4, 2020 11:12 pm

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Man, your draft guys going DOWN. You don't have him in dynasty also do you?
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Post#845 » by sunsbg » Tue Aug 4, 2020 11:20 pm

bwgood77 wrote:Clarke vs Holmes...maybe raw stats but Clarke is one of the better defenders in the NBA be it 1 on 1, team, off ball, etc...impact on the floor type players. Raw stats is not a good way to quantify a guy like Clarke. But that's the same way with Bridges too who is often in the same way misjudged and other players overrated based on raw stats.


With JJJ out now will be interesting to see how Clarke's numbers hold playing against starters.

As for Bridges still didn't find his D elite against Doncic. Mavs fans also think he couldn't stop Luka from going anywhere he wanted on the court, which was pretty obvious allowing him to score 10pts more than his season average.
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Re: Around the NBA 2019-20 

Post#846 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Aug 5, 2020 12:46 am

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Man, your draft guys going DOWN. You don't have him in dynasty also do you?
Yeah PJ Washington is lucky Charlotte isn't in Orlando or his leg would fall off or something.

Don't have JJJ on my dynasty team (wish I did). Do have Isaac and Winslow who never got healthy this year plus kemba who's knee is starting to scare me long term.

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Post#847 » by bwgood77 » Wed Aug 5, 2020 5:52 am

So TJ tied a Indiana franchise record with the most points through 3 games (119). This while shooting over 65% (that includes 23 3s). He shot almost 61% from 3 which included a 1-6 effort, so in the other two games he was over 76% from 3 on 17 attempts. Also had 10 assists to 1 turnover, 7 blocks and 6 steals...10/1 ast/to ratio and 6/1 steal/to ratio. This is all just insane. I hope we can shut him down somehow....or just limit him. Bridges has his work cut out for him.
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Post#848 » by MathiasPW » Wed Aug 5, 2020 6:28 pm

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Saberestar wrote:I have seen this idea a few times and it's wrong. "WE NEEDED"?? No way it was "needed". There were like 50 different options to have the cap space to sign Rubio as a FA and James Jones selected this one.

You don't trade for free a young efficient wing under a friendly long-term contract. A guy who breathes basketball.
Good teams don't make that decisions, they find the way to stay away of those terrible mistakes.

Yeah I was trying to make it sound better than it is lol. Regardless of Jones idiocy of trading for Tyler Johnson that put us in that situation in the first place.

Still could have stretched Tyler Johnson...that saves the money right there. Of course we thought he might be pretty good...bad thought.
Or just make the deal for Rubio heavier on the back-end, when TJo would be off the books.
It was like 2 or 3MM cap that we were short of. We then used the surplus for Baynes, which is a whole different story.
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Post#849 » by darmani » Wed Aug 5, 2020 9:09 pm

Dillon Brooks' shot selection is truly horrendous.

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Post#850 » by bigfoot » Wed Aug 5, 2020 9:17 pm

darmani wrote:Dillon Brooks' shot selection is truly horrendous.

Friggin Spurs just won't die.


On the bright side, I am jazzed MPJ is on my dynasty team. He and Zion should help me out a ton in the future.
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Post#851 » by Blonde » Wed Aug 5, 2020 9:21 pm

Michael Porter Jr. looks great. He’ll be a solid contributor during the playoffs this year. I remember back in the 2018 draft how much I liked him despite the injury history. But we’ve basically got a lite version of him with Cam Johnson so I’ll take it.
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Post#852 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Aug 5, 2020 9:57 pm

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Post#853 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Aug 6, 2020 12:52 am

Blonde wrote:Michael Porter Jr. looks great. He’ll be a solid contributor during the playoffs this year. I remember back in the 2018 draft how much I liked him despite the injury history. But we’ve basically got a lite version of him with Cam Johnson so I’ll take it.

I hope one day we're in a position of excess where we can take flyers on guys like MPJ, Bol Bol, Beasley and Jokic etc and without our franchise hinging on them becoming good NBA players. Denver's drafting has been phenomenal.
alamin330 wrote:This draft reminds me of the 2003 draft.
Lebron - Zion, Barrett like Melo, wade like Culver, garland like tj ford, hunter like bosh, white like Barbosa, Clarke like David West. I think this draft is actually going to be deeper though
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Post#854 » by phx#7 » Thu Aug 6, 2020 1:51 am

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Blonde wrote:Michael Porter Jr. looks great. He’ll be a solid contributor during the playoffs this year. I remember back in the 2018 draft how much I liked him despite the injury history. But we’ve basically got a lite version of him with Cam Johnson so I’ll take it.

I hope one day we're in a position of excess where we can take flyers on guys like MPJ, Bol Bol, Beasley and Jokic etc and without our franchise hinging on them becoming good NBA players. Denver's drafting has been phenomenal.


It's Jokic's development as a uniquely dominate force that has allowed them to roll the dice. We'll see how people feel about MPJ and Bol in a few years. I don't think any front office doubted their talent, but they dropped for a reason. For players as talented as they are to fall as far as they did their medical reports must be really scary.

Reminds me of Brandon Roy. Everyone knew his injury risk and early on all the talk was about how could teams have passed on him, but shortly after signing a massive deal his career was over and really handicapped the Blazers for years.

Hopefully it works out better for MPJ because he looks every bit the top prospect we was billed going into college.
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Post#855 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Aug 6, 2020 5:49 am

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Blonde wrote:Michael Porter Jr. looks great. He’ll be a solid contributor during the playoffs this year. I remember back in the 2018 draft how much I liked him despite the injury history. But we’ve basically got a lite version of him with Cam Johnson so I’ll take it.

I hope one day we're in a position of excess where we can take flyers on guys like MPJ, Bol Bol, Beasley and Jokic etc and without our franchise hinging on them becoming good NBA players. Denver's drafting has been phenomenal.


It's Jokic's development as a uniquely dominate force that has allowed them to roll the dice. We'll see how people feel about MPJ and Bol in a few years. I don't think any front office doubted their talent, but they dropped for a reason. For players as talented as they are to fall as far as they did their medical reports must be really scary.

Reminds me of Brandon Roy. Everyone knew his injury risk and early on all the talk was about how could teams have passed on him, but shortly after signing a massive deal his career was over and really handicapped the Blazers for years.

Hopefully it works out better for MPJ because he looks every bit the top prospect we was billed going into college.

My point is exactly that teams passed on him because of the injury red flags (just like they did with Bol) and couldn't take the risk of taking him earlier in the draft. The Nuggets were going to be fine even if MPJ never becomes anything because they were already playing with house money at that point with Jokic and Murray running the show.

I wish we were playing with house money and able to take that kind of risk. Not to rehash the 2019 draft but we might've gone a different direction (Luka) if we weren't so desperate for a "sure thing".
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Lebron - Zion, Barrett like Melo, wade like Culver, garland like tj ford, hunter like bosh, white like Barbosa, Clarke like David West. I think this draft is actually going to be deeper though
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Post#856 » by bwgood77 » Thu Aug 6, 2020 6:06 am

Blonde wrote:Michael Porter Jr. looks great. He’ll be a solid contributor during the playoffs this year. I remember back in the 2018 draft how much I liked him despite the injury history. But we’ve basically got a lite version of him with Cam Johnson so I’ll take it.


I remember, as the draft was going, before the Bridges trade, when it got to like the 12th pick, I thought that is Porter gets to 17 (or wherever our 2nd pick was), if we would take him...likely not, but of course Denver takes him at like 14.
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Post#857 » by bwgood77 » Thu Aug 6, 2020 6:09 am

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Blonde wrote:Michael Porter Jr. looks great. He’ll be a solid contributor during the playoffs this year. I remember back in the 2018 draft how much I liked him despite the injury history. But we’ve basically got a lite version of him with Cam Johnson so I’ll take it.

I hope one day we're in a position of excess where we can take flyers on guys like MPJ, Bol Bol, Beasley and Jokic etc and without our franchise hinging on them becoming good NBA players. Denver's drafting has been phenomenal.


It's Jokic's development as a uniquely dominate force that has allowed them to roll the dice. We'll see how people feel about MPJ and Bol in a few years. I don't think any front office doubted their talent, but they dropped for a reason. For players as talented as they are to fall as far as they did their medical reports must be really scary.

Reminds me of Brandon Roy. Everyone knew his injury risk and early on all the talk was about how could teams have passed on him, but shortly after signing a massive deal his career was over and really handicapped the Blazers for years.

Hopefully it works out better for MPJ because he looks every bit the top prospect we was billed going into college.


It's kind of amazing how forgotten he is as where he was as a prospect...he was ahead of Ayton, Doncic, Bagley, JJJ, Trae, Bamba....all those guys..he was #1...like compared to Durant...and he had a monster game the other night. Luckily Denver is probably my 2nd favorite team in the west, but they are going to be a juggernaut for years if they stay healthy and those guys like Porter and Bol live up to their perceived potential.
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Post#858 » by Revived » Thu Aug 6, 2020 10:26 am

I can’t help but think that Toronto is the next San Antonio. Great well run organization with elite front office and extremely well coached. Will be a contender or semi contender every season regardless of anything else. Thank god at least they’re in the East.
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Post#859 » by SunsRback4Good » Thu Aug 6, 2020 4:23 pm

How many superstar are currently in the NBA and is Lebron at age 35 still consired one?
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Post#860 » by SunsRback4Good » Thu Aug 6, 2020 4:35 pm

Revived wrote:I can’t help but think that Toronto is the next San Antonio. Great well run organization with elite front office and extremely well coached. Will be a contender or semi contender every season regardless of anything else. Thank god at least they’re in the East.


I believe they are capable in succeeding over a long period of time. Their President Masai has done a terrific job bringing in the right players who fit the team. Don't know much about Bobby Webster their general manager but he was brought in in 2017. At last, they brought in Nick Nurse who changed their offensive style to fit more of a euro style of tons of passing and more three point attempts and also made them a great defensive team. Keep those 3 geniuses together for a good decade and reap the rewards.
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