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Nashty Game 1 vs Kings

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:31 pm
by batsmasher
How it works:
Spoiler:
Anyone can vote for the 3-2-1 (including other fans from other forums) but you can only vote for the Suns players (or coach).

3 votes to who you think was a the best Suns player.
2 for the second best
and 1 for the 3rd best.

**EDIT: as of January something-or-other 2017, you can now distribute votes for the Nashty and Cactus however you please. You have a total of 6 votes to give out, but now you have the freedom to do what you want with those 6. The only condition which applies is no more than 3 votes can be given to one player in either award. **

In the event of a Suns loss, you are also encouraged to vote for the Cactus of the game:

-3 votes for the player most responsible for the loss
-2 votes for the second most responsible
-1 for the third most responsible

Any votes with more than 3 players listed and not in the required format will not count. Voting will close before the start of the next Suns game.

After the thread closes, the votes will be tallied. The highest scoring total Sun gets 3 points, the next 2, and the third gets 1 point towards their season total. In the event of a tie in a count for a game, if the result of the game is a Suns win, a maximum of 4 players will be awarded points. A tie in the event of a loss will only result in a maximum of 3 players getting awarded points.

The player with the highest total at season's end wins the award!

The same applies for the Cactus of the Year, although of course the lowest tally at year's end takes it.

10+1 Game update wooooooo

bat, where u been?
Making a new scoring system that automatically pushes all y'all scores into the spreadsheet

Why'd it take so long for an update?
I put it down to growing pains, trying to make this thing work better

How does it work?
It tallies everyone's scores and then normalizes them. From there it distributes the scores for the game based on these normalized vote tallies.

Has anything changed in the way I vote?
Not really. Of course, the more standard and consistent the voting style, the better for me to handle. It's still in development so I will begin to handle less standard styles of voting with time.

What are the scoring rules?
Same as usual. We've stopped allowing voting for coach in the official vote as it messes with the consistency of the scoring system. As has always been the case - you cannot give any player in either award a vote bigger than +/-3. If you do, I just cap it at +/- 3.

However you'll now see in the spreadsheet that players are getting decimal scores and now some players are getting scores higher than 3. That's due to the game scaling. The standard score total to hand out is 6. In wins, that goes up, in losses that goes down. And vice versa for the Cactus.

HOWEVER this doesn't affect they way you vote for players- you still get only 6 votes in either award. The scaling comes after the votes are tallied.

Officially, the scores being given out in either award are calculated like this:

6 + 2*(margin/30)

Josh Jackson got a -4.1, whaaaaaaaat?
-6 + 2*-(30/30) = -8
Suns lost by 30 so there were 8 Cactii to give out. Josh just happened to get a majority of them.

How accurate is this new app?
As accurate as a human doing it. Because well, it's still a manual process. I confirm/edit each post's votes to make sure they are correct. It just happens to make things much quicker.


I'll set up the spreadsheet this weekend + provide a (hopefully) usable version of my auto-tallyer and scorer.

If there's something not working in the sheet or tool I'll be floating around to assist.

Whether anyone actually wants to run it seems like the bigger question :lol:

Re: Nashty Game 1 vs Kings

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:57 pm
by bwgood77
I sliced his post off the other thread since he said he would set up the spreadsheet and some seemed interested. I am unsure if we continue this if we will use the automated one or not because I'm not sure I know how to work it.

This is more of a test thread though to see if people are interested and how many people vote. If there is limited interest, we may just scrap it.

Also, for those who do vote, if you'd rather drop the Cactus part of it for losses, mention that. I'm certainly game to drop it as I never really intended that to be part of it in the first place (and was just copying the Hornets Hammer idea)....

I just wanted to show appreciation to the players who most helped win or fought hard and had a good game in the case of a loss.

Re: Nashty Game 1 vs Kings

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:31 pm
by Book1Nation
Ayton +1
Booker +1
Oubre +1
Rubio +1
Carter +1
Tyler Johnson +1

Re: Nashty Game 1 vs Kings

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:54 pm
by NTB
Ayton +2
Oubre +2
Rubio +1
Booker +1

HM: Carter, Johnson

I am ok with cactus to be honest.

Re: Nashty Game 1 vs Kings

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:08 am
by bwgood77
Ayton +2
Booker +1
Rubio +1
Oubre +1
Tyler +.5
Carter +.5

Re: Nashty Game 1 vs Kings

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:43 am
by lilfishi22
Ayton +2
Booker +1
Rubio +1
Oubre +.5
Frank the Tank +.5
Tyler +.5
Carter +.5

Re: Nashty Game 1 vs Kings

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:52 am
by Kdab
+2 Booker
+2 Ayton
+1 Rubio
+1 Oubre

Re: Nashty Game 1 vs Kings

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:54 am
by MrMiyagi
MrMiyagi wrote:I'll kick it off. I'm giving Booker the +3 for turning it on not just offensively, but defensively. Ayton gets the +2 for being engaged on both ends of the floor (despite some lapses). I'll give the +1 to Rubio. Even though the shooting numbers were down and the turnovers were a little high, I think a lot of the teams' mentality is radiating from him.

Honorable mentions to Oubre, Tyler, Carter, and Bridges.

Re: Nashty Game 1 vs Kings

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:23 am
by Qwigglez
+2 Ayton / Booker / Rubio

Honorable mention to Oubre.

Re: Nashty Game 1 vs Kings

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:21 pm
by Jarlaxle0204
+3 Ayton
+2 Booker
+1 Rubio

Re: Nashty Game 1 vs Kings

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:22 pm
by Saberestar
+1.5 Ayton
+1 Booker
+1 Oubre
+1 Rubio
+0.5 Carter
+0.5 Tyler
+0.5 Kaminsky

Re: Nashty Game 1 vs Kings

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:07 pm
by Dual
Ayton +2
Booker +1
Rubio +1
Oubre +1
Carter +1