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Nashty: Game 11 vs Hawks

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:26 am
by bwgood77
How it works:
Spoiler:
Anyone can vote for the 3-2-1 (including other fans from other forums) but you can only vote for the Suns players (or coach).

3 votes to who you think was a the best Suns player.
2 for the second best
and 1 for the 3rd best.

**EDIT: as of January something-or-other 2017, you can now distribute votes for the Nashty and Cactus however you please. You have a total of 6 votes to give out, but now you have the freedom to do what you want with those 6. The only condition which applies is no more than 3 votes can be given to one player in either award. **

In the event of a Suns loss, you are also encouraged to vote for the Cactus of the game:

-3 votes for the player most responsible for the loss
-2 votes for the second most responsible
-1 for the third most responsible

Any votes with more than 3 players listed and not in the required format will not count. Voting will close before the start of the next Suns game.

After the thread closes, the votes will be tallied. The highest scoring total Sun gets 3 points, the next 2, and the third gets 1 point towards their season total. In the event of a tie in a count for a game, if the result of the game is a Suns win, a maximum of 4 players will be awarded points. A tie in the event of a loss will only result in a maximum of 3 players getting awarded points.

The player with the highest total at season's end wins the award!

The same applies for the Cactus of the Year, although of course the lowest tally at year's end takes it.

10+1 Game update wooooooo

bat, where u been?
Making a new scoring system that automatically pushes all y'all scores into the spreadsheet

Why'd it take so long for an update?
I put it down to growing pains, trying to make this thing work better

How does it work?
It tallies everyone's scores and then normalizes them. From there it distributes the scores for the game based on these normalized vote tallies.

Has anything changed in the way I vote?
Not really. Of course, the more standard and consistent the voting style, the better for me to handle. It's still in development so I will begin to handle less standard styles of voting with time.

What are the scoring rules?
Same as usual. We've stopped allowing voting for coach in the official vote as it messes with the consistency of the scoring system. As has always been the case - you cannot give any player in either award a vote bigger than +/-3. If you do, I just cap it at +/- 3.

However you'll now see in the spreadsheet that players are getting decimal scores and now some players are getting scores higher than 3. That's due to the game scaling. The standard score total to hand out is 6. In wins, that goes up, in losses that goes down. And vice versa for the Cactus.

HOWEVER this doesn't affect they way you vote for players- you still get only 6 votes in either award. The scaling comes after the votes are tallied.


+2.5 Oubre
+1.75 Kaminsky
+1.75 Saric

Kind of tough...Kaminsky and Saric so efficient and in the right places at right times. I had it 2-2-2 from efficiency standpoint, but Oubre was just all over the place with maybe his best game as a Sun.

Booker would normally get points in a game like this with his #s, but those others were so good and you can never have 7 turnovers.

Re: Nashty: Game 11 vs Hawks

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:29 am
by Dual
+2.5 Oubre
+1.5 Kaminsky
+2 Saric

Re: Nashty: Game 11 vs Hawks

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:30 am
by MrMiyagi
I'l go +3 for Oubre, +1.5 each for Saric and Frank.

Re: Nashty: Game 11 vs Hawks

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:32 am
by PharmD
+3 Oubre
+1 Booker
+1 Saric
+1 Kaminsky

Re: Nashty: Game 11 vs Hawks

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:33 am
by Kdab
+3 Oubre
+1.5 Saric
+1.5 Kaminsky

Re: Nashty: Game 11 vs Hawks

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:33 am
by Saberestar
+1.75 Oubre
+1.5 Booker
+1.5 Saric
+1.25 Kaminsky

Re: Nashty: Game 11 vs Hawks

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:44 am
by Qwigglez
+2 for Oubre/Booker
+1 for Saric/Kaminsky

Re: Nashty: Game 11 vs Hawks

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:45 am
by hollywood6964
+3 - Oubre
+1.5 - Saric
+1.5 - Kaminsky

Re: Nashty: Game 11 vs Hawks

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:47 am
by NTB
+2 Oubre
+1.5 Saric
+.1 Kaminsky
+.1 Booker
+.5 Cam

Re: Nashty: Game 11 vs Hawks

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:52 am
by SlovenianDragon
Baynes not getting credit for the charges he took/ elbows lol

Another great TEAM effort...

Idk how im even supposed to do this now.

+1 for everyone!

Re: Nashty: Game 11 vs Hawks

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:39 am
by Mr Puddles
Kelly +2
Saric +2
Cam Johnson +1
Kaminski +1

I'm grading with a bit of a curve here. Book has been so good this season that he'd probably make the list every game, but I'll give extra consideration to guys playing above their normal production. Cam continues to show that he's more than just a spot up shooter and that he's worthy of his draft position.

Re: Nashty: Game 11 vs Hawks

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:59 am
by m1chal
hollywood6964 wrote:+3 - Oubre
+1.5 - Saric
+1.5 - Kaminsky


Yep

Re: Nashty: Game 11 vs Hawks

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:36 am
by Jorgeglez7
bwgood77 wrote:How it works:
Spoiler:
Anyone can vote for the 3-2-1 (including other fans from other forums) but you can only vote for the Suns players (or coach).

3 votes to who you think was a the best Suns player.
2 for the second best
and 1 for the 3rd best.

**EDIT: as of January something-or-other 2017, you can now distribute votes for the Nashty and Cactus however you please. You have a total of 6 votes to give out, but now you have the freedom to do what you want with those 6. The only condition which applies is no more than 3 votes can be given to one player in either award. **

In the event of a Suns loss, you are also encouraged to vote for the Cactus of the game:

-3 votes for the player most responsible for the loss
-2 votes for the second most responsible
-1 for the third most responsible

Any votes with more than 3 players listed and not in the required format will not count. Voting will close before the start of the next Suns game.

After the thread closes, the votes will be tallied. The highest scoring total Sun gets 3 points, the next 2, and the third gets 1 point towards their season total. In the event of a tie in a count for a game, if the result of the game is a Suns win, a maximum of 4 players will be awarded points. A tie in the event of a loss will only result in a maximum of 3 players getting awarded points.

The player with the highest total at season's end wins the award!

The same applies for the Cactus of the Year, although of course the lowest tally at year's end takes it.

10+1 Game update wooooooo

bat, where u been?
Making a new scoring system that automatically pushes all y'all scores into the spreadsheet

Why'd it take so long for an update?
I put it down to growing pains, trying to make this thing work better

How does it work?
It tallies everyone's scores and then normalizes them. From there it distributes the scores for the game based on these normalized vote tallies.

Has anything changed in the way I vote?
Not really. Of course, the more standard and consistent the voting style, the better for me to handle. It's still in development so I will begin to handle less standard styles of voting with time.

What are the scoring rules?
Same as usual. We've stopped allowing voting for coach in the official vote as it messes with the consistency of the scoring system. As has always been the case - you cannot give any player in either award a vote bigger than +/-3. If you do, I just cap it at +/- 3.

However you'll now see in the spreadsheet that players are getting decimal scores and now some players are getting scores higher than 3. That's due to the game scaling. The standard score total to hand out is 6. In wins, that goes up, in losses that goes down. And vice versa for the Cactus.

HOWEVER this doesn't affect they way you vote for players- you still get only 6 votes in either award. The scaling comes after the votes are tallied.


+2.5 Oubre
+1.75 Kaminsky
+1.75 Saric

Kind of tough...Kaminsky and Saric so efficient and in the right places at right times. I had it 2-2-2 from efficiency standpoint, but Oubre was just all over the place with maybe his best game as a Sun.

Booker would normally get points in a game like this with his #s, but those others were so good and you can never have 7 turnovers.


I I love this one.

Re: Nashty: Game 11 vs Hawks

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:28 am
by LesGrossman
+2 Oubre
+2 Kaminsky
+1 Saric
+1 Bane (for taking several hard shots, elbows, knees)

Re: Nashty: Game 11 vs Hawks

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:14 am
by SunsRback4Good
+5.7 Oubre
+0.1 Kaminsky
+0.1 Booker
+0.1 Saric

Re: Nashty: Game 11 vs Hawks

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:17 pm
by Jorgeglez7
JellyRolling wrote:+5.7 Oubre
+0.1 Kaminsky
+0.1 Booker
+0.1 Saric

You can't give more than 3 to one player :D

Re: Nashty: Game 11 vs Hawks

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:17 pm
by bwgood77
I will try to compile the first 10 game results this weekend and put into batsmasher's spreadsheet with all the graphs, trends, etc. Will probably have to do manually because I don't know about all this automated software stuff.

Re: Nashty: Game 11 vs Hawks

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:44 pm
by Jarlaxle0204
+3 Oubre
+2 Saric
+1 Booker

Re: Nashty: Game 11 vs Hawks

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:45 pm
by lilfishi22
+2 Oubre
+2 Saric
+1 Kaminsky
+1 Book

Re: Nashty: Game 11 vs Hawks

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:47 pm
by avempace
+2 Oubre
+1.5 Saric
+1.5 Kaminsky
+1 Cam