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Re: Game 23: Minnesota T-Wolves (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (10-12)
Posted: Mon Dec 9, 2019 7:27 am
by ATTL
Isn't baynes back for this one?
Also, okc is currently 7th and minny is 9th. OKC will trade off their pieces soon, right?
We play the wolves two more times after this one, winning this game guarantees a tie in the season series which could be useful down the stretch.
Re: Game 23: Minnesota T-Wolves (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (10-12)
Posted: Mon Dec 9, 2019 8:01 am
by Hesh
ATTL wrote:Isn't baynes back for this one?
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Re: Game 23: Minnesota T-Wolves (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (10-12)
Posted: Mon Dec 9, 2019 8:08 am
by Hesh
Yeah, we really need this one to help for the tie-breaker. Wolves have lost their last 4 games against LAL, OKC, MIN, and MEM.
Advantage: They're coming off a b2b on a 4 game road-trip.
Disadvantage: 4/5 losses and this being the last game of their road trip might create extra motivation, since they have jazz and clips next, they definitely don't want to end it with a 7 game losing streak.
This game will be tough, but we got Baynes back and I believe that we're a better team at the moment, if we keep that same energy we had last game we should be able to pull off the W
Re: Game 23: Minnesota T-Wolves (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (10-12)
Posted: Mon Dec 9, 2019 8:28 am
by Revived
Hesh wrote:Advantage: They're coming off a b2b on a 4 game road-trip.
Suns are like 0-4 or 0-5 against teams playing their second night of a back to back against the Suns. You can bet Minnesota is aware of this record too.
Suns are a young team and they overlook opponents assuming they can just run them off the court due to fatigue. But the Suns have gotten off to dreadful starts because of this against those teams.
I see this as a disadvantage and makes this game even more challenging.
Re: Game 23: Minnesota T-Wolves (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (10-12)
Posted: Mon Dec 9, 2019 8:45 am
by Hesh
Revived wrote:Suns are like 0-4 or 0-5 against teams playing their second night of a back to back against the Suns. You can bet Minnesota is aware of this record too.
Argh, I wasn't aware of this. On the bright side, at least every game is anticipated to be exciting and entertaining now for us fans. The outcome is always unpredictable even against the top tier teams. Monty said each game is basically being treated as a playoff game.
Re: Game 23: Minnesota T-Wolves (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (10-12)
Posted: Mon Dec 9, 2019 1:28 pm
by bwgood77
ATTL wrote:Isn't baynes back for this one?
Also, okc is currently 7th and minny is 9th. OKC will trade off their pieces soon, right?
We play the wolves two more times after this one, winning this game guarantees a tie in the season series which could be useful down the stretch.
Well really it's a 3 way tie for 7th. I don't know if OKC will or not. If they may make the playoffs they may sit tight. No one will likely give up much for Paul and his contract is too big for contenders. Miami is playing very tough and is the 3 seed so they don't have a real need to.
Unless he just wanted to go to a big market and something like this happened
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=tyl4mbuBulls would probably look a lot better with Paul/LaVine/Porter/Markkanen/Carter while they still had Coby White for future and backup. Probably unlikely though.
Re: Game 23: Minnesota T-Wolves (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (10-12)
Posted: Mon Dec 9, 2019 1:44 pm
by bwgood77
Revived wrote:Hesh wrote:Advantage: They're coming off a b2b on a 4 game road-trip.
Suns are like 0-4 or 0-5 against teams playing their second night of a back to back against the Suns. You can bet Minnesota is aware of this record too.
Suns are a young team and they overlook opponents assuming they can just run them off the court due to fatigue. But the Suns have gotten off to dreadful starts because of this against those teams.
I see this as a disadvantage and makes this game even more challenging.
0-3 One to Boston. The Wizards game was weird because they were lights out shooting. I wonder if b2bs after playing Denver seem easy after playing in the high altitude. We won our b2b after an OT game in Denver and beat the Clips the next night. Then we lost to Orlando who was on a b2b.
Re: Game 23: Minnesota T-Wolves (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (10-12)
Posted: Mon Dec 9, 2019 4:09 pm
by bwgood77
Re: Game 23: Minnesota T-Wolves (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (10-12)
Posted: Mon Dec 9, 2019 4:15 pm
by hollywood6964
bwgood77 wrote:Revived wrote:Hesh wrote:Advantage: They're coming off a b2b on a 4 game road-trip.
Suns are like 0-4 or 0-5 against teams playing their second night of a back to back against the Suns. You can bet Minnesota is aware of this record too.
Suns are a young team and they overlook opponents assuming they can just run them off the court due to fatigue. But the Suns have gotten off to dreadful starts because of this against those teams.
I see this as a disadvantage and makes this game even more challenging.
0-3 One to Boston. The Wizards game was weird because they were lights out shooting. I wonder if b2bs after playing Denver seem easy after playing in the high altitude. We won our b2b after an OT game in Denver and beat the Clips the next night. Then we lost to Orlando who was on a b2b.
Yeah, this team thinks more of themselves than what they are. they need to play hard to make up for some of the defensive deficiencies. the reason they lose b2bs so much, is that they don't guard anyone to start the game, and the get the other team in a rhythm. and despite b2b, when there is no resistance, the game feels easy, and you feel you can "steal" one. Plus you're getting great looks, so now you're having fun and everything is there to take it.
Having Baynes back (hopefully) is going to be huge. If we do, and he's non-restriced (although he probably will be) I think we can blow them out tonight. The wolves stink, too one dimensional, and they do not have good defensive schemes (ie- letting booker run around unfettered).
Back to Baynes, him n Rubio are great together, open 3's for him all night. this is one chief reason he should be starting with Ayton, even more open 3's, and floor spreading, and ayton will get more open dunks n put backs because of it. Besides he can take the defensive pressure off of ayton. From there ppl can complain about the bench, but with Cam, Saric, Bridges (although I'd swap him for Oubre and that would solve the bench scoring), one of the pgs, frank if he's playing right, and diallo, I think we have more than enough with staggered minutes.
when healthy, I expect this team to go on a tear.
Re: Game 23: Minnesota T-Wolves (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (10-12)
Posted: Mon Dec 9, 2019 4:21 pm
by Crives
Going to be a tough one.. Minny going to be playing desperate being knocked to the 9th seed.. we need to play with energy and effort tonight... and hope KAT ain’t feeling it from 3
Re: Game 23: Minnesota T-Wolves (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (10-12)
Posted: Mon Dec 9, 2019 5:54 pm
by Dual
Re: Game 23: Minnesota T-Wolves (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (10-12)
Posted: Mon Dec 9, 2019 6:17 pm
by KLEON
No more Kaminsky as a starter please
Re: Game 23: Minnesota T-Wolves (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (10-12)
Posted: Mon Dec 9, 2019 6:20 pm
by Dual
Minutes restriction with Baynes are funny, as he usually have foul problems and play limited minutes for that.
Re: Game 23: Minnesota T-Wolves (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (10-12)
Posted: Mon Dec 9, 2019 6:42 pm
by Revived
KLEON wrote:No more Kaminsky as a starter please
They ought to give Diallo a chance as starter if they don’t want to start Baynes due to mins restriction.
Re: Game 23: Minnesota T-Wolves (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (10-12)
Posted: Mon Dec 9, 2019 7:15 pm
by Dual
Revived wrote:KLEON wrote:No more Kaminsky as a starter please
They ought to give Diallo a chance as starter if they don’t want to start Baynes due to mins restriction.
From what I'm reading in twitter Kaminsky will start and Baynes from the bench.
I hope is wrong, but maybe they are preparing the team for Aytons return and Baynes new role.
Re: Game 23: Minnesota T-Wolves (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (10-12)
Posted: Mon Dec 9, 2019 7:20 pm
by bwgood77
Revived wrote:KLEON wrote:No more Kaminsky as a starter please
They ought to give Diallo a chance as starter if they don’t want to start Baynes due to mins restriction.
No, he struggled far too much in the last game against Capela that starting him against Towns is probably not a good idea. Baynes would be physical with him. Diallo's length might be disruptive at times but I wouldn't start him. Plus, with Rubio likely not guarded much at the 3 pt line, you need Baynes floor stretching on offense to allow Rubio, Booker and Oubre to get to the rim more easily.
Though I guess Diallo did hit a 3.
Re: Game 23: Minnesota T-Wolves (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (10-12)
Posted: Mon Dec 9, 2019 7:21 pm
by bwgood77
Dual wrote:Revived wrote:KLEON wrote:No more Kaminsky as a starter please
They ought to give Diallo a chance as starter if they don’t want to start Baynes due to mins restriction.
From what I'm reading in twitter Kaminsky will start and Baynes from the bench.
I hope is wrong, but maybe they are preparing the team for Aytons return and Baynes new role.
As long as Kaminsky starts well like he did in one game recently, but defensively he won't be able to do anything against Towns.
Re: Game 23: Minnesota T-Wolves (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (10-12)
Posted: Mon Dec 9, 2019 7:25 pm
by Dual
bwgood77 wrote:Dual wrote:Revived wrote:They ought to give Diallo a chance as starter if they don’t want to start Baynes due to mins restriction.
From what I'm reading in twitter Kaminsky will start and Baynes from the bench.
I hope is wrong, but maybe they are preparing the team for Aytons return and Baynes new role.
As long as Kaminsky starts well like he did in one game recently, but defensively he won't be able to do anything against Towns.
What is strange with Kaminsky is that sometimes even being there is invisible for everybody on defense, tall or short, strong or weak, everybody scores over Kaminsky easily.
With Diallo is different, sometimes he is not even there for the mental lapses he has, that's why Monty is giving him few minutes and sometimes is taken away from games abruptly.
Re: Game 23: Minnesota T-Wolves (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (10-12)
Posted: Mon Dec 9, 2019 7:52 pm
by bwgood77