Game 46: Phoenix Suns (19-26) @ Memphis Grizzlies (21-24)

[BobbieL]

you can't rely Kelly to make the right decision.

I don't know why they'd want to put the ball in his hands at the end of a game. It really makes no sense. I mean he's obviously not a high IQ player. I love his personality, energy, fearlessness, clutchness, etc, and I'd only throw it to him at the end if he's wide open for a 3. Not with the whole shot clock where you have time to get a good shot.

We had 15 seconds to find a good open shot. He is the last guy you want to have the ball with that much time because regardless of the # of defenders around, he is unlikely to move the ball.

Very very frustrating finish.

Also his play with 50 seconds taking it to basket and eventually ball to Memphis. I really wanted Book on a pull up three . I like how hard Oubre plays but damn - he plays emotional

[bwgood77]

No, it was to Booker. He was open but one of the Memphis defenders saw it and suns had to go to plan B


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The truth is that Booker was open for a second, but he didn't get the ball.

Blame Bridges then. This board doesn’t do that though.


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It definitely should have gone to Booker. He was open, but the defender may have moved off him after Bridges turned. For some reason I was thinking Rubio was inbounding it, but that doesn't make sense I guess.

[handsome salary]

The best thing for this squad is to just miss the playoffs. Not sure getting hammered by the Lakers in the first round is good.

If we manage to end up in the lottery, it gives us more ammunition in the draft and you never know balls could fall our way.

I think people will notice the improvement and we are growing all the time. Inconsistent but growing. A free agent, a trade and a pick and we should be able to move from 9th or 10th in the west into the playoffs next season.

They have achieved a lot but we just need a little more coupled with development and we should be a genuine show.

**** that. The last thing this organization is another year of bottom feeding. Players of Aytons draft and after are going to see the playoffs before him and now 6th year vet Booker and 4th year vet Oubre. SAD!

[lilfishi22]

The refs allowed that Anderson guy to get away with a bunch of reach in fouls all game.There was a play where it looked like he tried to intentionally foul Rubio on the fastbreak.Swiped down on his shoulder, but the refs swallowed their whistles.It was in the same play/sequence as the Oubre out of bounds challenge.....But it's whatever.We're bottom feeders.No respect coming the Suns way.Maybe we'll turn it around in another 10-20 yrs

Let's not be sore losers and blame the refs now, esp when we had a 35-26 FTA advantage and it was our dumb plays that cost us the game

[BobbieL]

Stupid from Oubre

I just really don't understand at all why he cannot see those are not good plays. Too much on the line right now.

Was a dumb decision. Still got fouled though

They get a big steal, Oubre does hero ball instead of passing back to Booker for a pull up damn three and a damn turnover

[Jdiddy701]

The truth is that Booker was open for a second, but he didn't get the ball.

Blame Bridges then. This board doesn’t do that though.


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I"ll blame Oubre. He's touted as and paid for being the 3rd piece on a winning team but when it really counts he's going to screw the pooch time and time again.

Ayton was also a complete zero. Nice to see all these other players in his draft and later do so much more.

I don’t want to make an excuse for Oubre but it’s not easy to pass out in the corner. He should have NEVER been put in that position. Mikal saw Morant react to an open Booker and Mikal passed to Oubre.


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[bwgood77]

you can't rely Kelly to make the right decision.

I don't know why they'd want to put the ball in his hands at the end of a game. It really makes no sense. I mean he's obviously not a high IQ player. I love his personality, energy, fearlessness, clutchness, etc, and I'd only throw it to him at the end if he's wide open for a 3. Not with the whole shot clock where you have time to get a good shot.

We had 15 seconds to find a good open shot. He is the last guy you want to have the ball with that much time because regardless of the # of defenders around, he is unlikely to move the ball.

Very very frustrating finish.

Also his play with 50 seconds taking it to basket and eventually ball to Memphis. I really wanted Book on a pull up three . I like how hard Oubre plays but damn - he plays emotional

I know....I just posted "WHY?????" after that....just two plays in the last minute that were unnecessary. We could have gotten WAY better shots on both times but he was forcing things early in the shot clock. This was one of the MOST frustrating losses to me because it was so careless at the end when we were getting steals and opportunities but then just make boneheaded plays.

I don't mind if guys miss good, open shots, but dumb plays like those are killers. Booker should have touched the ball on both of those possessions.

[WeekapaugGroove]

No, it was to Booker. He was open but one of the Memphis defenders saw it and suns had to go to plan B


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The truth is that Booker was open for a second, but he didn't get the ball.

Blame Bridges then. This board doesn’t do that though.


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Oh plenty of blame to go around. Bridges missed that rotation, but probably bad communication by others involved on that play too.

Ricky missed a FT

I hated that time out after the Ja FT make, not sure it would have mattered but you should keep that last TO in case you need to challenge or if you make a 2 and need to foul and play for another possession. Just too much time left to burn it there.

Kelly forced one and got caught with the charge.

The close losses are a team issue and hopefully something they grow out of.

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[bwgood77]

Blame Bridges then. This board doesn’t do that though.


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I"ll blame Oubre. He's touted as and paid for being the 3rd piece on a winning team but when it really counts he's going to screw the pooch time and time again.

Ayton was also a complete zero. Nice to see all these other players in his draft and later do so much more.

I don’t want to make an excuse for Oubre but it’s not easy to pass out in the corner. He should have NEVER been put in that position. Mikal saw Morant react to an open Booker and Mikal passed to Oubre.


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I do agree he was in a bad spot to pass out. I can't recall if there was someone in front of him and if he could have drove and kicked, not that he would have. That probably should have been a decoy in the corner though...no one should have passed it there because you can't get trapped there and will have limited options if you are swarmed with defenders. It's not like there were 2 seconds left.

[BobbieL]

I don't know why they'd want to put the ball in his hands at the end of a game. It really makes no sense. I mean he's obviously not a high IQ player. I love his personality, energy, fearlessness, clutchness, etc, and I'd only throw it to him at the end if he's wide open for a 3. Not with the whole shot clock where you have time to get a good shot.

We had 15 seconds to find a good open shot. He is the last guy you want to have the ball with that much time because regardless of the # of defenders around, he is unlikely to move the ball.

Very very frustrating finish.

Also his play with 50 seconds taking it to basket and eventually ball to Memphis. I really wanted Book on a pull up three . I like how hard Oubre plays but damn - he plays emotional

I know....I just posted "WHY?????" after that....just two plays in the last minute that were unnecessary. We could have gotten WAY better shots on both times but he was forcing things early in the shot clock. This was one of the MOST frustrating losses to me because it was so careless at the end when we were getting steals and opportunities but then just make boneheaded plays.

I don't mind if guys miss good, open shots, but dumb plays like those are killers. Booker should have touched the ball on both of those possessions.

Really missing Baynes Kam and Cam. On a team with little bench, tough to miss those guys. Tyler is just a non dam factor

[handsome salary]

I don't know why they'd want to put the ball in his hands at the end of a game. It really makes no sense. I mean he's obviously not a high IQ player. I love his personality, energy, fearlessness, clutchness, etc, and I'd only throw it to him at the end if he's wide open for a 3. Not with the whole shot clock where you have time to get a good shot.

We had 15 seconds to find a good open shot. He is the last guy you want to have the ball with that much time because regardless of the # of defenders around, he is unlikely to move the ball.

Very very frustrating finish.

Also his play with 50 seconds taking it to basket and eventually ball to Memphis. I really wanted Book on a pull up three . I like how hard Oubre plays but damn - he plays emotional

I know....I just posted "WHY?????" after that....just two plays in the last minute that were unnecessary. We could have gotten WAY better shots on both times but he was forcing things early in the shot clock. This was one of the MOST frustrating losses to me because it was so careless at the end when we were getting steals and opportunities but then just make boneheaded plays.

I don't mind if guys miss good, open shots, but dumb plays like those are killers. Booker should have touched the ball on both of those possessions.

This is why I laughed when others posted earlier in the season Oubre is now waiting for the Brinks truck after a couple of games. The goddamn Wizards let him go. WTF does that say.

[bwgood77]

The best thing for this squad is to just miss the playoffs. Not sure getting hammered by the Lakers in the first round is good.

If we manage to end up in the lottery, it gives us more ammunition in the draft and you never know balls could fall our way.

I think people will notice the improvement and we are growing all the time. Inconsistent but growing. A free agent, a trade and a pick and we should be able to move from 9th or 10th in the west into the playoffs next season.

They have achieved a lot but we just need a little more coupled with development and we should be a genuine show.

**** that. The last thing this organization is another year of bottom feeding. Players of Aytons draft and after are going to see the playoffs before him and now 6th year vet Booker and 4th year vet Oubre. SAD!

Oubre is same year as Book, both 5th year vets...and Oubre has been in the playoffs.

[SuperSunsFan]

only watched the last minutes, did Ayton have an at least passable game?

[handsome salary]

I"ll blame Oubre. He's touted as and paid for being the 3rd piece on a winning team but when it really counts he's going to screw the pooch time and time again.

Ayton was also a complete zero. Nice to see all these other players in his draft and later do so much more.

I don’t want to make an excuse for Oubre but it’s not easy to pass out in the corner. He should have NEVER been put in that position. Mikal saw Morant react to an open Booker and Mikal passed to Oubre.


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I do agree he was in a bad spot to pass out. I can't recall if there was someone in front of him and if he could have drove and kicked, not that he would have. That probably should have been a decoy in the corner though...no one should have passed it there because you can't get trapped there and will have limited options if you are swarmed with defenders. It's not like there were 2 seconds left.

So a guy drafted in 2015 still can't figure it out. Great for the Suns.

[SuperSunsFan]

I don’t want to make an excuse for Oubre but it’s not easy to pass out in the corner. He should have NEVER been put in that position. Mikal saw Morant react to an open Booker and Mikal passed to Oubre.


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I do agree he was in a bad spot to pass out. I can't recall if there was someone in front of him and if he could have drove and kicked, not that he would have. That probably should have been a decoy in the corner though...no one should have passed it there because you can't get trapped there and will have limited options if you are swarmed with defenders. It's not like there were 2 seconds left.

So a guy drafted in 2015 still can't figure it out. Great for the Suns.

the guy who passed to him was at fault, Booker got himself open a split second after the ball was passed.

[handsome salary]

The best thing for this squad is to just miss the playoffs. Not sure getting hammered by the Lakers in the first round is good.

If we manage to end up in the lottery, it gives us more ammunition in the draft and you never know balls could fall our way.

I think people will notice the improvement and we are growing all the time. Inconsistent but growing. A free agent, a trade and a pick and we should be able to move from 9th or 10th in the west into the playoffs next season.

They have achieved a lot but we just need a little more coupled with development and we should be a genuine show.

**** that. The last thing this organization is another year of bottom feeding. Players of Aytons draft and after are going to see the playoffs before him and now 6th year vet Booker and 4th year vet Oubre. SAD!

Oubre is same year as Book, both 5th year vets...and Oubre has been in the playoffs.

My mistake then. Get rid of Booker and build around playoffs vet Oubre.

[Qwigglez]

Oubre isn’t the problem. The problem is he’s been our second leading scorer this season and he shouldn’t be. He should be fourth, but he’s stepped up his game and we simply don’t have other reliable options. Ayton needs to start dominating, and we need another go to guy. Oubre would look a lot better at that point.

[Blonde]

Realistically, we will never reach the playoffs in the western conference through organic growth. You’ve got all the playoff mainstays, then Golden State will be back next year, the Pelicans have Zion/Ingram/Jrue and a good GM, Memphis has young talent at every position, Minny still has KAT. How do we break in? We missed our chance at a franchise changing superstar and those come around once every decade or less. It’s impossible to be optimistic about our future.

[handsome salary]

I'm just sick of watching yet again losing basketball. Oubre is not the only fault. This entire organization is suck top to bottom of building success.

[BobbieL]

Realistically, we will never reach the playoffs in the western conference through organic growth. You’ve got all the playoff mainstays, then Golden State will be back next year, the Pelicans have Zion/Ingram/Jrue and a good GM, Memphis has young talent at every position, Minny still has KAT. How do we break in? We missed our chance at a franchise changing superstar and those come around once every decade or less. It’s impossible to be optimistic about our future.

This! You can’t miss on Bender Jackson and Chriss. Inthe NBA, if one of those guys , just one, had been good, all the difference in the world. But just wasted. Add in the bad free agents
Hard to overcome