King4Day wrote: Ghost of Kleine wrote:
These guys act like Oubre, Ayton, at least one of Cam/Bridges and picks isn't a deal that could net Giannis? Huh?
Name a team that can offer them something better...
Set aside the fact he's staying with the Bucks but I don't get why the hosts think a Suns offer surrounded by Ayton isn't competitive
Your talking about the MVP here. Top 3 player in the league. And you think Ayton, an expiring Oubre (Who was acquired for the train-wreck dumpster-fire Ariza), and a young roleplayer like Cam or Bridges is enough? Who cares about the pick because Booker/Giannis will ensure that its a non-lottery pick. Trading a top player in the league you better be getting an allstar back or multiple former allstars. MVP? You better be getting back everything you ask for from a team.
Westbrook wanted out from OKC, and they netted a 9x All-star and arguably one of the best PG's in the league in Chris Paul, along with 2 1st round picks and the option to swap picks inbetween. Sure CP3 is up there in age (just 4 years older than Westbrook), yet he made the all-star game for the 10th time. He will also net them more assets via trade this offseason.Also keep in mind that was for a 31 year old Westbrook, Giannis is 25.
For Paul George (6x all-star) OKC landed SGA, who is somewhat around Bridges value but is considered to have a much higher upside. They also got Gallo, who is pretty much Cam Johnson but holds more value around the league. Now the clincher to this trade was picks (Since OKC is smart and knows they are looking at rebuilding in a year or two). They get the Clippers first round draft picks in 2022/2024/2026, the Heats first round picks in 2021/2023, along with the option to swap picks with the Clippers in 2023 and 2025. Quite a haul for their future, and just remember, Paul George has never been in the real MVP conversation and was 30 years old when he was traded (5 years older than MVP Giannis).
Kawhi Leonard was traded for a 4x allstar in Demar DeRozan after forcing is way out of San Antonio. They also got a young sophomore roleplayer with potential in Jakob Poeltl (Bridges/Cam value), along with 2 future 1st round picks (1 being in one of the most stacked drafts in years). They also were able to dump Danny Greene's bad contract on the Raptors. Kawhi was 28 years old and had the Spurs over a barrel when it came to trading him. While Toronto came out on top with this trade by winning a title with Kawhi, they were left holding their d***s in their hand when he left in FA like was predicted by most teams that wernt going to give up assets to San Antonio without a verbal guarantee by Kawhi about re-signing.
Those are 3 of the most recent superstar trades to help gauge the trade value of Giannis. So unless we plan on adding around 8 future 1sts in with the trade, Ayton/Oubre/Bridges isnt going to cut it.