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Post #1221 » by **bwgood77** » Sun May 2, 2021 4:48 pm

Sucks for Oubre to get injured before FA...he's played well a lot of the time...seems like he either has really good games or really bad ones. Seems better suited to come off the bench as many suspected.

Bogyo · Post #1222 » by **Bogyo** » Sun May 2, 2021 7:46 pm

bwgood77 wrote:Sucks for Oubre to get injured before FA...he's played well a lot of the time...seems like he either has really good games or really bad ones. Seems better suited to come off the bench as many suspected.

If he accepts this reality, the role and the (lower) salary that comes with it he can be a very valuable bench player on a very good team. I wouldn't even put a sixth man of the year out of the question for him in the next 5 years if he is on the right team (and healthy).

SunsRback4Good · Post #1223 » by **SunsRback4Good** » Mon May 3, 2021 4:27 am

Feels like Lakers are now losing on purpose to get the 7th seed and face the Jazz in the first round. They want no part of Denver or Clippers.

spanishninja · Post #1224 » by **spanishninja** » Mon May 3, 2021 4:43 am

do you see any scenarios where the rest of the league gives GSW, Memphis, and SAS free wins to try to get the Lakers to the lottery? Lakers only 4 wins up on the Spurs at the moment.

Post #1225 » by **lilfishi22** » Mon May 3, 2021 4:48 am

SunsRback4Good wrote:Feels like Lakers are now losing on purpose to get the 7th seed and face the Jazz in the first round. They want no part of Denver or Clippers.

Or us

But I think the argument against that is the teams locked in the playoffs ie not in the play-in tourney have a real advantage as they'll be off for a good week before the actual offseason begins and that's not insignificant. I would also argue that teams in the play-in tournament may not be "true" title contenders but we're still talking about a Dame Time with the Blazers and former Two-Time Steph with the Warriors and in a 1-game or 2-game play-in tournament, it's not a forgone conclusion that LA would pull through.

If they are going to risk their season, I think they would rather risk their season against a Denver/Clippers in a 7 game series than a 1-2 game series against Dame, Steph or even Pop and Ja.

SunsRback4Good · Post #1226 » by **SunsRback4Good** » Mon May 3, 2021 4:49 am

spanishninja wrote:do you see any scenarios where the rest of the league gives GSW, Memphis, and SAS free wins to try to get the Lakers to the lottery? Lakers only 4 wins up on the Spurs at the moment.

Why would the rest of league attempt to help the lakers get a better lottery pick knowing how dominant their franchise has been?

Post #1227 » by **lilfishi22** » Mon May 3, 2021 4:52 am

SunsRback4Good wrote:
spanishninja wrote:do you see any scenarios where the rest of the league gives GSW, Memphis, and SAS free wins to try to get the Lakers to the lottery? Lakers only 4 wins up on the Spurs at the moment.

Why would the rest of league attempt to help the lakers get a better lottery pick knowing how dominant their franchise has been?

lol I'm guessing as opposed to giving LA a chance at another title

starbosa10 · Post #1228 » by **starbosa10** » Mon May 3, 2021 5:57 am

Lebron and the Lakers moaning about the play in lol need to get over themselves

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1229 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Mon May 3, 2021 6:29 am

starbosa10 wrote:Lebron and the Lakers moaning about the play in lol need to get over themselves

Read on Twitter

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Right? Especially after saying this a month ago. Lol

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Post #1230 » by **lilfishi22** » Mon May 3, 2021 7:20 am

lol Lebron is such a chump. If you're better then you don't have to deal with it. Ya know....like the Suns

Seriously though, if it had been a 5 game serious like Lebron had suggested last season, can you imagine how much of a game-changer it would be? Like imagine if Lebron and AD had to not just get through another team DESPERATE to make playoffs in a 5 game series but also stay healthy for the actual playoffs.

lol but of course Lebron doesn't want to get involved now that he's at risk of being in it

RunDogGun · Post #1231 » by **RunDogGun** » Mon May 3, 2021 1:17 pm

The play in format is interesting. It could be a blessing or a curse for teams. Having to play one to two games before everyone else could give a team momentum going in to the playoffs, and it could also be a potential injury for players going all out to make those playoffs. Overall, I like the idea, since Covid protocols can knock out players for a few games, which in the past could knock a team out of the playoffs.

Frank Lee · Post #1232 » by **Frank Lee** » Mon May 3, 2021 3:30 pm

It wasn’t too long ago when the first round was a 3 game series....

http://thecomeback.com/crossoverchronicles/2015-articles/the-1970s-nba-when-great-single-seasons-rarely-existed.html

Actually, that was a lifetime ago to some here

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1233 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Mon May 3, 2021 5:41 pm

Frank Lee wrote:It wasn’t too long ago when the first round was a 3 game series....

http://thecomeback.com/crossoverchronicles/2015-articles/the-1970s-nba-when-great-single-seasons-rarely-existed.html

Actually, that was a lifetime ago to some here

I'm old and that was even before my time.

3 is a little extreme but I would love if they went back to 5 game first round.

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Post #1234 » by **bwgood77** » Mon May 3, 2021 6:50 pm

When you think about it, an 82 (or even 72) game regular season to eliminate 5 of 14 teams in a conference or only 10 of 30 is pretty ridiculous.

20 out of 30 teams get to play past the regular season. Does that feel rational?

I'll enjoy it but it is pretty stupid.

The best playoff idea is a re-seed after each round. I think it's dumb if an 8 seed knocks off a 1 seed that a 5 seed plays the 8 seed while you may have a 2 vs 3 matchup.

They should re-seed and have 2 vs 8 and 3 vs 5 in that case like the NFL does. The top seed will always play the lowest seed that advances.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1235 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Mon May 3, 2021 8:05 pm

bwgood77 wrote:When you think about it, an 82 (or even 72) game regular season to eliminate 5 of 14 teams in a conference or only 10 of 30 is pretty ridiculous.

20 out of 30 teams get to play past the regular season. Does that feel rational?

I'll enjoy it but it is pretty stupid.

The best playoff idea is a re-seed after each round. I think it's dumb if an 8 seed knocks off a 1 seed that a 5 seed plays the 8 seed while you may have a 2 vs 3 matchup.

They should re-seed and have 2 vs 8 and 3 vs 5 in that case like the NFL does. The top seed will always play the lowest seed that advances.

I think the NBA would prefer to do that but the issue they run into with that is TV scheduling. You'd have to wait for the whole round to end before figuring out the matchups which could leave gaps in the schedule. Right now we'll sometimes see game one of the next round before a game 7 of the prior round. TV money is the lifeblood of the NBA so can't be messing that up.

The play in is working exactly as it was supposed to. The next two weeks the games for the teams sitting 5-7 mean SO much more with this format than it would have the old way. The goal was to make teams keep trying later in the regular season plus have some 1 and done games for TV before the actual playoffs.

I don't care at all about it not being fair for the 7 and 8 seeds. None of them have won a championship in the modern era. They are cannon fodder either way. I like that this makes the top 6 a more exclusive spot that teams have to try harder to get into.

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Saberestar · Post #1236 » by **Saberestar** » Mon May 3, 2021 8:15 pm

bwgood77 wrote:When you think about it, an 82 (or even 72) game regular season to eliminate 5 of 14 teams in a conference or only 10 of 30 is pretty ridiculous.

20 out of 30 teams get to play past the regular season. Does that feel rational?

I'll enjoy it but it is pretty stupid.

The best playoff idea is a re-seed after each round. I think it's dumb if an 8 seed knocks off a 1 seed that a 5 seed plays the 8 seed while you may have a 2 vs 3 matchup.

They should re-seed and have 2 vs 8 and 3 vs 5 in that case like the NFL does. The top seed will always play the lowest seed that advances.

I would prefer the play-in tournament only for the 8th and 9th teams from each conference... like it was in the bubble.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1237 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Mon May 3, 2021 8:56 pm

Is 16 playoff teams too many for a league of 30? Probably but the NBA will never do byes in the playoffs because they wouldn't want teams to sit that long so the only other option is 8 teams and that's too few and would murder the end of the regular season with too many teams eliminated.

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spanishninja · Post #1238 » by **spanishninja** » Mon May 3, 2021 9:01 pm

Book player of the week again. Kinda surprised it wasn't CP3 actually since the Clipper and Knick games were all him in the clutch.

jcsunsfan · Post #1239 » by **jcsunsfan** » Mon May 3, 2021 10:44 pm

spanishninja wrote:do you see any scenarios where the rest of the league gives GSW, Memphis, and SAS free wins to try to get the Lakers to the lottery? Lakers only 4 wins up on the Spurs at the moment.

That would be brilliant.

Post #1240 » by **lilfishi22** » Mon May 3, 2021 10:44 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:When you think about it, an 82 (or even 72) game regular season to eliminate 5 of 14 teams in a conference or only 10 of 30 is pretty ridiculous.

20 out of 30 teams get to play past the regular season. Does that feel rational?

I'll enjoy it but it is pretty stupid.

The best playoff idea is a re-seed after each round. I think it's dumb if an 8 seed knocks off a 1 seed that a 5 seed plays the 8 seed while you may have a 2 vs 3 matchup.

They should re-seed and have 2 vs 8 and 3 vs 5 in that case like the NFL does. The top seed will always play the lowest seed that advances.
I think the NBA would prefer to do that but the issue they run into with that is TV scheduling. You'd have to wait for the whole round to end before figuring out the matchups which could leave gaps in the schedule. Right now we'll sometimes see game one of the next round before a game 7 of the prior round. TV money is the lifeblood of the NBA so can't be messing that up.

The play in is working exactly as it was supposed to. The next two weeks the games for the teams sitting 5-7 mean SO much more with this format than it would have the old way. The goal was to make teams keep trying later in the regular season plus have some 1 and done games for TV before the actual playoffs.

I don't care at all about it not being fair for the 7 and 8 seeds. None of them have won a championship in the modern era. They are cannon fodder either way. I like that this makes the top 6 a more exclusive spot that teams have to try harder to get into.

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Totally agree.

I loved the idea of the play-in tourney last season and now it's had a season to mature, it feels even more so like the right direction for the league to curb tanking and raise competition.