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Post#1 » by Golanator » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:07 pm

Pretty good pickup for an undrafted guy. 17/5/2 last season on 43/40/86 from the field. 6’4” guard with a 6’8” wingspan.

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Post#2 » by Saberestar » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:10 pm

He is 6'2, that's one of the reasons he went undrafted.
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Post#3 » by RedIndian » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:15 pm

Oh, I like this! Mentioned him in the draft thread as well as the guy to get from the undrafted list.

6'4 with a 6'8 wingspan. Both a ball-hawk and a disruptive team defender. He also has a very nice high release and shot 39% from the 3 on very high volume. I'm actually very surprised he didn't get drafted. I'd have had him in the early second round or even perhaps as a late 1st rounder.
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Post#4 » by RedIndian » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:16 pm

Definitely an NBA player in this kid:

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Post#5 » by bhawk » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:21 pm

They can't all be good. I liked Riller a lot better.

https://www.thestepien.com/2020/06/30/potential-draft-values-2nd-round-udfa/

"Overall, it’s pretty easy to see how Ty-Shon Alexander can have an impact at the next level even with his limitations. There are fair concerns with his game, but he’s definitely worth taking a look at and could be a solid 3-D guard in the NBA."
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Post#6 » by Saberestar » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:30 pm

2020 Daft Combine Measurements
Ty-Shon Alexander

Height w/o shoes 6,2"
201 lbs
Wingspan 6,8"
Standing Reach 8,4"
Body Fat 12.30%

https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/?sort=WINGSPAN&dir=1
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Post#7 » by Golanator » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:59 pm

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Post#8 » by Ghost of Kleine » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:59 pm

Saberestar wrote:2020 Daft Combine Measurements
Ty-Shon Alexander

Height w/o shoes 6,2"
201 lbs
Wingspan 6,8"
Standing Reach 8,4"
Body Fat 12.30%

https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/?sort=WINGSPAN&dir=1

Thing is though, How many nba players or even professional athletes ( whatever) do you or anyone else know that plays barefoot or without shoes. I never really understood the logic of this whole barefoot measurements thing. Unless they have concerns over players potentially playing with lifts in their shoes or something! :lol: Just go by his measurements in shoes already and call it done. Bottomline is that he's got good size for a combo guard, is a really solid point of attack defender, and is a really good shooter too. He's got a great foundation to build upon! And with him being mentored by someone as great as Paul himself, Offers much to be excited about honestly! :D
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Post#10 » by RedIndian » Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:07 pm

Fwiw, I think he's a better NBA prospect than both Jerome and Lecque. I made the comparison to a better shooting Melton. If he's a hard worker, then he might end up being a really nice surprise.
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Post#11 » by Saberestar » Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:08 pm

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Saberestar wrote:2020 Daft Combine Measurements
Ty-Shon Alexander

Height w/o shoes 6,2"
201 lbs
Wingspan 6,8"
Standing Reach 8,4"
Body Fat 12.30%

https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/?sort=WINGSPAN&dir=1

Thing is though, How many nba players or even professional athletes ( whatever) do you or anyone else know that plays barefoot or without shoes. I never really understood the logic of this whole barefoot measurements thing. Unless they have concerns over players potentially playing with lifts in their shoes or something! :lol: Just go by his measurements in shoes already and call it done. Bottomline is that he's got good size for a combo guard, is a really solid point of attack defender, and is a really good shooter too. He's got a great foundation to build upon! And with him being mentored by someone as great as Paul himself, Offers much to be excited about honestly! :D

Since last season w/s height is the official height for players in the league.

Those artificial heights (2 full inches more for his shoes :lol: ) are dying in the league.
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Re: Suns sign Creighton guard Ty-Shon Alexander 

Post#12 » by phx#7 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:10 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Saberestar wrote:2020 Daft Combine Measurements
Ty-Shon Alexander

Height w/o shoes 6,2"
201 lbs
Wingspan 6,8"
Standing Reach 8,4"
Body Fat 12.30%

https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/?sort=WINGSPAN&dir=1

Thing is though, How many nba players or even professional athletes ( whatever) do you or anyone else know that plays barefoot or without shoes. I never really understood the logic of this whole barefoot measurements thing. Unless they have concerns over players potentially playing with lifts in their shoes or something! :lol: Just go by his measurements in shoes already and call it done. Bottomline is that he's got good size for a combo guard, is a really solid point of attack defender, and is a really good shooter too. He's got a great foundation to build upon! And with him being mentored by someone as great as Paul himself, Offers much to be excited about honestly! :D


Even if there is a concern about his height being inflated with shoes(2in is definitely on the high side for height difference in shoes vs w/o) it really only matters if his wingspan is short. If he were 6'4 in shoes with a 6'1 wingspan, yeah it would probably limit his ability to defend bigger guards, but with a 6'8 wingspan he'll easily be able to play as a 6'4 combo guard.
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Post#13 » by jcsunsfan » Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:19 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Saberestar wrote:2020 Daft Combine Measurements
Ty-Shon Alexander

Height w/o shoes 6,2"
201 lbs
Wingspan 6,8"
Standing Reach 8,4"
Body Fat 12.30%

https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/?sort=WINGSPAN&dir=1

Thing is though, How many nba players or even professional athletes ( whatever) do you or anyone else know that plays barefoot or without shoes. I never really understood the logic of this whole barefoot measurements thing. Unless they have concerns over players potentially playing with lifts in their shoes or something! :lol: Just go by his measurements in shoes already and call it done. Bottomline is that he's got good size for a combo guard, is a really solid point of attack defender, and is a really good shooter too. He's got a great foundation to build upon! And with him being mentored by someone as great as Paul himself, Offers much to be excited about honestly! :D


I think the barefoot allows for clear comparisons between players.
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Post#15 » by Saberestar » Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:06 pm

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Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Saberestar wrote:2020 Daft Combine Measurements
Ty-Shon Alexander

Height w/o shoes 6,2"
201 lbs
Wingspan 6,8"
Standing Reach 8,4"
Body Fat 12.30%

https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/?sort=WINGSPAN&dir=1

Thing is though, How many nba players or even professional athletes ( whatever) do you or anyone else know that plays barefoot or without shoes. I never really understood the logic of this whole barefoot measurements thing. Unless they have concerns over players potentially playing with lifts in their shoes or something! :lol: Just go by his measurements in shoes already and call it done. Bottomline is that he's got good size for a combo guard, is a really solid point of attack defender, and is a really good shooter too. He's got a great foundation to build upon! And with him being mentored by someone as great as Paul himself, Offers much to be excited about honestly! :D


I think the barefoot allows for clear comparisons between players.

Yeah and It is easy to cheat about your actual height if they allow you to put shoes when measuring you and a lot of players try to do it in measurements. It is ok to round up, but 2 inches more is a joke.

If we are gonna comment about players abilities, size, skills, etc I woul prefer to talk about true data.
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Post#16 » by Ghost of Kleine » Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:20 pm

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Ghost of Kleine wrote:Thing is though, How many nba players or even professional athletes ( whatever) do you or anyone else know that plays barefoot or without shoes. I never really understood the logic of this whole barefoot measurements thing. Unless they have concerns over players potentially playing with lifts in their shoes or something! :lol: Just go by his measurements in shoes already and call it done. Bottomline is that he's got good size for a combo guard, is a really solid point of attack defender, and is a really good shooter too. He's got a great foundation to build upon! And with him being mentored by someone as great as Paul himself, Offers much to be excited about honestly! :D


I think the barefoot allows for clear comparisons between players.

Yeah and It is easy to cheat about your actual height if they allow you to put shoes when measuring you and a lot of players try to do it in measurements. It is ok to round up, but 2 inches more is a joke.

If we are gonna comment about players abilities, size, skills, etc I woul prefer to talk about true data.


You know, it's really not like they couldn't just check the shoes for lifts or thicker soles if it was indeed such a paramount factor to a player's individual success, That it'd influence prospects to falsely their information. As it stands, other than perception, I really don't see that portion of the measurements as a legitimate necessity in the process. But of course, discussion about true data is important, Do feel free to start things off if you like...................... :D
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Post#17 » by MathiasPW » Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:25 pm

phx#7 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Saberestar wrote:2020 Daft Combine Measurements
Ty-Shon Alexander

Height w/o shoes 6,2"
201 lbs
Wingspan 6,8"
Standing Reach 8,4"
Body Fat 12.30%

https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/?sort=WINGSPAN&dir=1

Thing is though, How many nba players or even professional athletes ( whatever) do you or anyone else know that plays barefoot or without shoes. I never really understood the logic of this whole barefoot measurements thing. Unless they have concerns over players potentially playing with lifts in their shoes or something! Just go by his measurements in shoes already and call it done. Bottomline is that he's got good size for a combo guard, is a really solid point of attack defender, and is a really good shooter too. He's got a great foundation to build upon! And with him being mentored by someone as great as Paul himself, Offers much to be excited about honestly! :D


Even if there is a concern about his height being inflated with shoes(2in is definitely on the high side for height difference in shoes vs w/o) it really only matters if his wingspan is short. If he were 6'4 in shoes with a 6'1 wingspan, yeah it would probably limit his ability to defend bigger guards, but with a 6'8 wingspan he'll easily be able to play as a 6'4 combo guard.
But does he have 6'8" wingspan without gloves, though?
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Post#18 » by cberry78 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:27 pm

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phx#7 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:Thing is though, How many nba players or even professional athletes ( whatever) do you or anyone else know that plays barefoot or without shoes. I never really understood the logic of this whole barefoot measurements thing. Unless they have concerns over players potentially playing with lifts in their shoes or something! Just go by his measurements in shoes already and call it done. Bottomline is that he's got good size for a combo guard, is a really solid point of attack defender, and is a really good shooter too. He's got a great foundation to build upon! And with him being mentored by someone as great as Paul himself, Offers much to be excited about honestly! :D


Even if there is a concern about his height being inflated with shoes(2in is definitely on the high side for height difference in shoes vs w/o) it really only matters if his wingspan is short. If he were 6'4 in shoes with a 6'1 wingspan, yeah it would probably limit his ability to defend bigger guards, but with a 6'8 wingspan he'll easily be able to play as a 6'4 combo guard.
But does he have 6'8" wingspan without gloves, though?

I'm pretty sure that wingspan is with lifts. :wink:
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Post#19 » by bwgood77 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:29 pm

phx#7 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Saberestar wrote:2020 Daft Combine Measurements
Ty-Shon Alexander

Height w/o shoes 6,2"
201 lbs
Wingspan 6,8"
Standing Reach 8,4"
Body Fat 12.30%

https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/?sort=WINGSPAN&dir=1

Thing is though, How many nba players or even professional athletes ( whatever) do you or anyone else know that plays barefoot or without shoes. I never really understood the logic of this whole barefoot measurements thing. Unless they have concerns over players potentially playing with lifts in their shoes or something! :lol: Just go by his measurements in shoes already and call it done. Bottomline is that he's got good size for a combo guard, is a really solid point of attack defender, and is a really good shooter too. He's got a great foundation to build upon! And with him being mentored by someone as great as Paul himself, Offers much to be excited about honestly! :D


Even if there is a concern about his height being inflated with shoes(2in is definitely on the high side for height difference in shoes vs w/o) it really only matters if his wingspan is short. If he were 6'4 in shoes with a 6'1 wingspan, yeah it would probably limit his ability to defend bigger guards, but with a 6'8 wingspan he'll easily be able to play as a 6'4 combo guard.


In that video above, he looked like a great defender.
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Post#20 » by jcsunsfan » Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:04 pm

He is Marcus Smart size.

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