Game 80: Phoenix Suns (63-16) @ Los Angeles Clippers (39-40) l Wednesday l 7:00pm l ESPN

Revived · Post #101 » by **Revived** » Thu Apr 7, 2022 4:34 am

GoranTragic wrote:I'm talking about sitting our starters. Silver even said recently that he doesn't like that trend.

My bad I misunderstood. I thought you were upset that I didn’t go to the game. I thought it was odd too lol.

matt131 · Post #102 » by **matt131** » Thu Apr 7, 2022 4:35 am

A bit concerned with both of the Cams' performances the past few games. Payne is really struggling ever since he got out back on the bench and Cam J can't hit a thing.

Powell comes back after breaking his foot and scores 20+ in his first game back. But cam J gets bumped in his leg and can't make a three since. So disappointing especially with how well he was playing in the game he got injured. He seems like a massive rhythm player so hopefully he finds it soon. Counting on his bench shooting and scoring for the playoffs...

DroughtsOverPHX · Post #103 » by **DroughtsOverPHX** » Thu Apr 7, 2022 4:35 am

Glad I stayed and watched. Great comeback.

SkyBill40 · Post #104 » by **SkyBill40** » Thu Apr 7, 2022 4:38 am

matt131 wrote:A bit concerned with both of the Cams' performances the past few games. Payne is really struggling ever since he got out back on the bench and Cam J can't hit a thing.

Powell comes back after breaking his foot and scores 20+ in his first game back. But cam J gets bumped in his leg and can't make a three since. So disappointing especially with how well he was playing in the game he got injured. He seems like a massive rhythm player so hopefully he finds it soon. Counting on his bench shooting and scoring for the playoffs...

Same. Johnson has not been the same since being injured and coming back. He needs to find whatever is affecting him and kill it. We need his shooting and dogged tenacity come playoff time. While I've seen the same aggressive play, the shot hasn't been there.

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RunDogGun · Post #105 » by **RunDogGun** » Thu Apr 7, 2022 4:38 am

Well our deep bench renewed my faith. They played really hard. I was really hoping the whole team would play this hard.

LV-Suns · Post #106 » by **LV-Suns** » Thu Apr 7, 2022 4:40 am

Wainright just took that last playoff spot from Elf after this game.

SkyBill40 · Post #107 » by **SkyBill40** » Thu Apr 7, 2022 4:41 am

Looking at Holiday's line tonight, it's clear he should be coming in to back Paul, not Payne. Until Payne manages to get himself back to the level he was while Paul was out, he needs to sit. He was careless with the ball tonight and cost us at least 10 points off turnovers.

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RunDogGun · Post #108 » by **RunDogGun** » Thu Apr 7, 2022 4:44 am

Wow, I was questioning Payne coming in for Craig, and he hits a three.

SkyBill40 · Post #109 » by **SkyBill40** » Thu Apr 7, 2022 4:47 am

They fought back, I'll give them that and even though it was against the second and third unit. Had things been more cohesive sooner, we could have pulled this one out.

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RunDogGun · Post #110 » by **RunDogGun** » Thu Apr 7, 2022 4:48 am

Just can't help thinking had we went with Holiday in the second quarter, this may have been a different game all around. Oh well, glad I stayed up to watch us play solid basketball minus a lot of chucking (many went in) in the fourth.

spanishninja · Post #111 » by **spanishninja** » Thu Apr 7, 2022 4:48 am

hopefully this makes Lue think twice about tanking to 8th.

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TeamTragic · Post #112 » by **TeamTragic** » Thu Apr 7, 2022 4:51 am

Maybe get Holiday in there sooner and stop playing Payton?

RunDogGun · Post #113 » by **RunDogGun** » Thu Apr 7, 2022 4:51 am

SkyBill40 wrote:They fought back, I'll give them that and even though it was against the second and third unit. Had things been more cohesive sooner, we could have pulled this one out.

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To be fair, it was our third and fourth string squad as well.

pj0tr · Post #114 » by **pj0tr** » Thu Apr 7, 2022 4:52 am

RunDogGun wrote:Just can't help thinking had we went with Holiday in the second quarter, this may have been a different game all around. Oh well, glad I stayed up to watch us play solid basketball minus a lot of chucking (many went in) in the fourth.

I don't understand why Monty keeps playing Payton... I keep thinking they'll make the decision, and waive him and promote Ish to the playoff-eligible roster.

I agree with you lol - if Holiday plays, they very well might win this game.

RunDogGun · Post #115 » by **RunDogGun** » Thu Apr 7, 2022 4:57 am

pj0tr wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:Just can't help thinking had we went with Holiday in the second quarter, this may have been a different game all around. Oh well, glad I stayed up to watch us play solid basketball minus a lot of chucking (many went in) in the fourth.

I don't understand why Monty keeps playing Payton... I keep thinking they'll make the decision, and waive him and promote Ish to the playoff-eligible roster.

I agree with you lol - if Holiday plays, they very well might win this game.

Not sure if we win it, but I think he could have injected enough energy that would have fired up the whole team. It would have changed the ball game, but I think Lue would have stayed with his starters longer, so I don't know if it would have changed the outcome.

But overall the energy from Biz, Holiday, Ish, Iffe and Craig, really gave us the right amount of shooting while staying solid defensively.

Slim Charless · Post #116 » by **Slim Charless** » Thu Apr 7, 2022 5:07 am

RunDogGun wrote:
SkyBill40 wrote:They fought back, I'll give them that and even though it was against the second and third unit. Had things been more cohesive sooner, we could have pulled this one out.

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To be fair, it was our third and fourth string squad as well.

No mention from either of you about that fraud of a reffing exposition?

44-12 is an abortion. So much so that I expect a GOP Senator to speak on banishing that game.

In all seriousness. Good comeback, **** refs.

Jdiddy701 · Post #117 » by **Jdiddy701** » Thu Apr 7, 2022 5:08 am

Pretty obvious to me what the Suns have been doing with Payton. If that’s not the case, I’d be pretty disappointed in James Jones and Monty Williams. Elfrid Payton should be waived tomorrow.

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SkyBill40 · Post #118 » by **SkyBill40** » Thu Apr 7, 2022 5:10 am

Slim Charless wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:
SkyBill40 wrote:They fought back, I'll give them that and even though it was against the second and third unit. Had things been more cohesive sooner, we could have pulled this one out.

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To be fair, it was our third and fourth string squad as well.

No mention from either of you about that fraud of a reffing exposition?

44-12 is an abortion. So much so that I expect a GOP Senator to speak on banishing that game.

In all seriousness. Good comeback, **** refs.

The officiating has been utterly laughable all season long against us. Straight up joke on some nights, tonight being one of them.

Williams never says anything much about it because he likely doesn't want to be fined, but at some point he needs to air that stuff out. The league needs a serious evaluation of their officials. They are grossly affecting the outcome of games and seeing how much sports betting is happening now, it begs the question of game fixing being a genuine concern. Donaghy wasn't the first or the last to shave points on games and I firmly believe that.

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Slim Charless · Post #119 » by **Slim Charless** » Thu Apr 7, 2022 5:17 am

SkyBill40 wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:To be fair, it was our third and fourth string squad as well.

No mention from either of you about that fraud of a reffing exposition?

44-12 is an abortion. So much so that I expect a GOP Senator to speak on banishing that game.

In all seriousness. Good comeback, **** refs.
The officiating has been utterly laughable all season long against us. Straight up joke on some nights, tonight being one of them.

Williams never says anything much about it because he likely doesn't want to be fined, but at some point he needs to air that stuff out. The league needs a serious evaluation of their officials. They are grossly affecting the outcome of games and seeing how much sports betting is happening now, it begs the question of game fixing being a genuine concern. Donaghy wasn't the first or the last to shave points on games and I firmly believe that.

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I mean if a near 4-1 advantage doesn't say something is wrong, then idk what will.

TeamTragic · Post #120 » by **TeamTragic** » Thu Apr 7, 2022 5:27 am

Jdiddy701 wrote:Pretty obvious to me what the Suns have been doing with Payton. If that’s not the case, I’d be pretty disappointed in James Jones and Monty Williams. Elfrid Payton should be waived tomorrow.

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What have they been doing with Payton?

I'm not sure that I follow you.