2023 Draft Discussion

Ghost of Kleine · Post #221 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Mon May 29, 2023 7:00 pm

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Ghost of Kleine · Post #222 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Tue May 30, 2023 10:32 pm

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kennydorglas · Post #223 » by **kennydorglas** » Thu Jun 1, 2023 1:28 am

Zach Edey back to Purdue.
Damn

Ghost of Kleine · Post #224 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Thu Jun 1, 2023 1:55 am

kennydorglas wrote:Zach Edey back to Purdue.
Damn

Jake Stephens (Chattanooga) pivot then for semi-slow lumbering yet incredibly skilled and versatile double-double bench depth center option? :dontknow:

Still, 7'0 275 lbs with a 7'10 wingspan averaging 22/10/3.4 assists/ 2.2 blocks while shooting nearly 40% from three.

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Post #225 » by **Qwigglez** » Thu Jun 1, 2023 1:59 am

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Watching some of his highlights he looks to have some potential. Playing with KD/Book can only expedite his growth right?

Post #226 » by **Qwigglez** » Thu Jun 1, 2023 2:02 am

Ghost of Kleine wrote:
kennydorglas wrote:Zach Edey back to Purdue.
Damn

Jake Stephens (Chattanooga) pivot then for semi-slow lumbering yet incredibly skilled and versatile double-double bench depth center option?
Still, 7'0 275 lbs with a 7'10 wingspan averaging 22/10/3.4 assists/ 2.2 blocks while shooting nearly 40% from three.

Honestly there are a lot of prospects that if given the right development program and if they have the right attitude I believe can make it to the NBA. Jared Dudley is proof of that. :lol:

Ghost of Kleine · Post #227 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Thu Jun 1, 2023 9:20 pm

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Another quality defensive wing! Kind of a mini Xavier McDaniel/ Shane Battier archetype.

Ghost of Kleine · Post #228 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Thu Jun 1, 2023 9:26 pm

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KdoubleDees23 · Post #229 » by **KdoubleDees23** » Fri Jun 2, 2023 11:42 am

Ghost of Klein trying to get a bunch of scrubs on the team, when we are in win now mode. What are you doing?

sunskerr · Post #230 » by **sunskerr** » Fri Jun 2, 2023 3:40 pm

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He's been projected mid first for a long time now. We never had a chance.

Ghost of Kleine · Post #231 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Fri Jun 2, 2023 4:43 pm

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He's been projected mid-first for a long time now. We never had a chance.

I know he's been projected to go in the mid to late first around the late teens to 20s' a few weeks ago. I had just hoped he'd hold at that range (with no small amount of luck) and we could facilitate an Ayton trade in order to be in that range to possibly draft him! (as illustrated by my previous Ayton trade hypotheticals with him picked in the mid to late teens range and my 2nd option Jackson Davis with a later first- primarily Utah and Brooklyn premises) But obviously he's shown out and been discovered more quickly than I had hoped! I also had some small hope that perhaps Rupert and a few other prospects might show out keeping him in that range for us? But him moving up to the lottery is ultimately not really that surprising to me though, As I've been telling people he tracks very similarly to Mikal Bridges (before breakout)! :wink:

Disappointing as I REALLY wanted him as our Bridges replacement for our long-term core. But sometimes the consensus just catches on faster than hoped for.

Ghost of Kleine · Post #232 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Fri Jun 2, 2023 4:45 pm

KdoubleDees23 wrote:Ghost of Klein trying to get a bunch of scrubs on the team, when we are in win now mode. What are you doing?

Hey man! nice to see you're back! your opinion being noted, would love to hear your plan given our current situation?? I'm sure it's absolutely amazing!

KdoubleDees23 · Post #233 » by **KdoubleDees23** » Sat Jun 3, 2023 5:47 am

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KdoubleDees23 wrote:Ghost of Klein trying to get a bunch of scrubs on the team, when we are in win now mode. What are you doing?

Hey man! nice to see you're back! your opinion being noted, would love to hear your plan given our current situation?? I'm sure it's absolutely amazing!

I was in Japan for vacation!

No draft picks. Get 3 & D Players. Look at how the nuggets are built.

Jokic (Can rebound and pass) = our KD

surrounded by Gordon, MJP, Bruce Brown, Jeff Green

with a scorer like Jamal Murray = our Booker.

We need to get 3&D guys who can shoot, and hustle to surround KD and Booker.

CP3 I think we keep because of loyalty, even though I think he should go, as he slows us down.

Ghost of Kleine · Post #234 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Sat Jun 3, 2023 12:08 pm

KdoubleDees23 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
KdoubleDees23 wrote:Ghost of Klein trying to get a bunch of scrubs on the team, when we are in win now mode. What are you doing?

Hey man! nice to see you're back! your opinion being noted, would love to hear your plan given our current situation?? I'm sure it's absolutely amazing!

I was in Japan for vacation!

No draft picks. Get 3 & D Players. Look at how the nuggets are built.

Jokic (Can rebound and pass) = our KD

surrounded by Gordon, MJP, Bruce Brown, Jeff Green

with a scorer like Jamal Murray = our Booker.

We need to get 3&D guys who can shoot, and hustle to surround KD and Booker.

CP3 I think we keep because of loyalty, even though I think he should go, as he slows us down.

Curious?? Which of the players I've listed do you specifically consider scrubs man? (I expect you'll say all most likely). However, I agree about getting 3 & D players and hustle players around Booker and Durant. Those veteran options will most likely be obtained via trade and/ or free agency ( exceptions accessibility) IF we're trading one of Paul (or stretching him) but most likely trading him and possibly keeping Ayton given Vogel's past success with big men. These players that I've mentioned via the draft are merely meant to be cost controlled extensions of those 3 &D hustle players that you mentioned.

And would play a role in balancing out our top heavy salaries, but also offer high floor value in a simplified defensive role around Booker and Durant with their respective skillsets. But none are really scrubs, and most all already better than what we're fielding on our current bench. It all depends upon the pathway Ishbia chooses. :dontknow:

Ghost of Kleine · Post #235 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Sun Jun 4, 2023 4:35 am

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Jake Stephens again shows incredible value as an undrafted range prospect that would cost us nearly nothing! And as the video points out too, Put up 37 points and 15 rebounds!!! It's important to remember that this kid is 7 ft 275 lbs, and an 7'10 (nearly 8 ft wingspan.

But possesses a very high basketball IQ, and advanced passing ability, and has shot over 40% for almost his entire college career. Clearly, he's no Jokic! But he does possess a lot of similar skillset traits as Jokic himself if you watch how he plays and impacts games with his versatility. He represents phenomenal value from the undrafted pool. :nod:

Stix · Post #236 » by **Stix** » Tue Jun 6, 2023 12:07 am

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Another quality defensive wing! Kind of a mini Xavier McDaniel/ Shane Battier archetype.

I dunno, kinda gives me Charlie Villanueva vibes.

Ghost of Kleine · Post #237 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Tue Jun 6, 2023 12:16 am

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Another quality defensive wing! Kind of a mini Xavier McDaniel/ Shane Battier archetype.

I dunno, kinda gives me Charlie Villanueva vibes.

LOL! might be the bald head an kind of androgynous/ zombie/corpse look? :nod:

Seriously though, IF you can get past his bland zombie look he's probably much more fluid and explosively athletic than Villaneuva was.

Ghost of Kleine · Post #238 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Thu Jun 8, 2023 12:49 pm

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why having a quality to top-notch scouting staff matters significantly!

Fo-Real · Post #239 » by **Fo-Real** » Thu Jun 8, 2023 2:17 pm

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why having a quality to top-notch scouting staff matters significantly!

UHHH-OOOWWW!!!! Right in the nuts bro!!! REALLY!! Watch where you are kicking!!! :lol:

Ghost of Kleine · Post #240 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Thu Jun 8, 2023 2:43 pm

Fo-Real wrote:
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why having a quality to top-notch scouting staff matters significantly!

UHHH-OOOWWW!!!! Right in the nuts bro!!! REALLY!! Watch where you are kicking!!!

YEAH!!! Having two lotto picks in that draft and essentially the ability to walk out on draft night with any combination of two of those all-star players and then ending up with two players not even in the NBA anymore!