2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 2

[Saberestar]

"He's in the best shape possible of his career and he's just ready to get back out there on the court."

@ChrisBHaynes gives an update on the current status of Jae Crowder and the Suns"

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[sunsbg]

"He's in the best shape possible of his career and he's just ready to get back out there on the court."

@ChrisBHaynes gives an update on the current status of Jae Crowder and the Suns"

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No news here. Hopefully his next employer thinks the same and gives something good in return. A motivated Jae would've been of great help. Should have not extended him, but let him keep his starting spot. Now they can only hope getting back someone as good at PF.

[Saberestar]

"He's in the best shape possible of his career and he's just ready to get back out there on the court."

@ChrisBHaynes gives an update on the current status of Jae Crowder and the Suns"

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No news here. Hopefully his next employer thinks the same and gives something good in return. A motivated Jae would've been of great help. Should have not extended him, but let him keep his starting spot. Now they can only hope getting back someone as good at PF.

Well, the news are that he is OK with a backup role so that probably makes it easier to trade him.

[sunsbg]

Well, the news are that he is OK with a backup role so that probably makes it easier to trade him.

I didn't hear anything about being OK with a backup role in this video, but hopefully that's the case. Everything in the quote is just a typical talk of someone who wants to get paid.

[SunsRback4Good]

What package could we get for Crowder with Cleveland? Maybe Crowder for Love & Neto? Kevin Love is averaging a near double double on 47% shooting while Neto can provide 7-8 points a game on 45% fg.

[Saberestar]

Well, the news are that he is OK with a backup role so that probably makes it easier to trade him.

I didn't hear anything about being OK with a backup role in this video, but hopefully that's the case. Everything in the quote is just a typical talk of someone who wants to get paid.

Sorry, that was said during the game.

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[sunsbg]

Well, the news are that he is OK with a backup role so that probably makes it easier to trade him.

I didn't hear anything about being OK with a backup role in this video, but hopefully that's the case. Everything in the quote is just a typical talk of someone who wants to get paid.

Sorry, that was said during the game.

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That leads me to think there was really something behind the scenes involving him in that Mavs series.

[BobbieL]

I didn't hear anything about being OK with a backup role in this video, but hopefully that's the case. Everything in the quote is just a typical talk of someone who wants to get paid.

Sorry, that was said during the game.

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That leads me to think there was really something behind the scenes involving him in that Mavs series.

Good work by Crowder using Haynes to paint himself as the good guy - willing to come off the bench, etc

Jae would be a nice addition to the team thats for sure. But like you said, something behind the scenes

That said, Suns just need to be patient as on Dec 15 -they can add Okogie for example. Lee too but I think I like what I see from Lee. And on Jan 15 -even more options so Jae might be waiting

But if the Suns keep getting play from Craig - they are going to be just fine for the first half of the season

[bwgood77]

Well, the news are that he is OK with a backup role so that probably makes it easier to trade him.

I didn't hear anything about being OK with a backup role in this video, but hopefully that's the case. Everything in the quote is just a typical talk of someone who wants to get paid.

Sorry, that was said during the game.

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Yeah I heard that and they mentioned contract but that seems like a stretch too because he was a FA when we signed him and has plenty of interest.

I honestly still think it has to do with Paul though I know you disagree with that. Happens with a lot of vet players...just can't play wth him after about 2 years.

[Fo-Real]

I don't think Obama is the right move for the organization. We need some local ties, it's what has kept us going for so long. I'm okay with some big money participating like Bezos, Ellison or Lauren Powell, but all of them need a local person or a person with local ties to be the managing partner, or designee of the managing partner.

Chuck said he'd be interested in joining Obama's ownership group. Local enough for you?

No, do not want.

[BobbieL]

I didn't hear anything about being OK with a backup role in this video, but hopefully that's the case. Everything in the quote is just a typical talk of someone who wants to get paid.

Sorry, that was said during the game.

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Yeah I heard that and they mentioned contract but that seems like a stretch too because he was a FA when we signed him and has plenty of interest.

I honestly still think it has to do with Paul though I know you disagree with that. Happens with a lot of vet players...just can't play wth him after about 2 years.

The Suns never talk or leak anything as we know
I think Jae was trying to use Haynes to possibily faciliate a quicker trade

Fact is - Suns do not need to trade Jae now - they have until Feb 10 and my guess, it happens post 1/15/2023.

As of 12/15/2022- Suns would have $22m if you include Saric and Okogie to trade at that time.. Craig would be $27m to trade, Payne $33
That could be two trades right there

[Fo-Real]

Well, the news are that he is OK with a backup role so that probably makes it easier to trade him.

I didn't hear anything about being OK with a backup role in this video, but hopefully that's the case. Everything in the quote is just a typical talk of someone who wants to get paid.

He said that it wasnt about starting.

[sunsfan1o1]

Well, the news are that he is OK with a backup role so that probably makes it easier to trade him.

I didn't hear anything about being OK with a backup role in this video, but hopefully that's the case. Everything in the quote is just a typical talk of someone who wants to get paid.

He said that it wasnt about starting.

He’s lying.
He’s trying to save face because he realizes now that nobody wants him as a starter or malcontent and he’s burned this bridge.
Jae didn’t think this out properly

[AtheJ415]

I didn't hear anything about being OK with a backup role in this video, but hopefully that's the case. Everything in the quote is just a typical talk of someone who wants to get paid.

He said that it wasnt about starting.

He’s lying.
He’s trying to save face because he realizes now that nobody wants him as a starter or malcontent and he’s burned this bridge.
Jae didn’t think this out properly

Yeah, it's very obviously about the starting spot, the KD rumors, and maybe lack of an extension. For a veteran player, he's being beyond immature and quite frankly he's always been a bit overrated. Cam is just better, and he can't honestly expect us to hold up a trade for a player of KD's caliber for him. It's a business first.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

I love how much freer we're firing from 3 this season. The change is most obvious from watching Cam Johnson. Dude's just firing when open. But also Jock, Cam P, Shamet, Craig, Lee - everyone's shooting if they're open.

Booker finally hitting threes with the consistency we've hoped for. 48% on 6 3FGA/game so far.

Also love that we're committing to getting the ball to our bigs in post position on switches. Guards aren't refusing the entry pass, and we're doing it without hesitation, so we're not turning it over. Ayton can't get a whistle when he gets hacked on the arm down low, though. He's clearly frustrated by it.

While Ayton's looked pretty good early on, I think he's auditioning to extend his Suns tenure this season. If another backup gives us better production and we don't meet expectations in the playoffs, I think there's a good chance he gets moved next summer. The simple fact is that Booker's the man, now and for the foreseeable future. Bridges is his running mate. Cam Jo's a perfect fit when healthy. Chris Paul's not so critical to this team anymore: he's replaceable. And we can survive with a below-average bench. If it's not clear that Ayton is key to any of that, then we may very well decide to upgrade #3-10 on our roster by moving Deandre. I'm still rooting for him and hope he'll be here long term, but I think it's up in the air - and up to him - whether he sticks beyond this season.

[sunsbg]

Live by the three, die by the three - most likely the later if you are not great at it.

I guess Jock is the next in the long list of DA replacements - Holmes, McGee, Byiombo, etc. (all these are doing exceptionally on their respective teams and fans are in love with all of them).

That said, if they manage to get a superstar for Ayton, go for it.

[BobbieL]

Live by the three, die by the three - most likely the later if you are not great at it.

I guess Jock is the next in the long list of DA replacements - Holmes, McGee, Byiombo, etc. (all these are doing exceptionally on their respective teams and fans are in love with all of them).

That said, if they manage to get a superstar for Ayton, go for it.

Ayton is getting better and better. I am not sure they should trade him if he keeps playing this well. I like the shots he is taking in the key - some are coming up short - but keep the aggressive nature

[bwgood77]

I love how much freer we're firing from 3 this season. The change is most obvious from watching Cam Johnson. Dude's just firing when open. But also Jock, Cam P, Shamet, Craig, Lee - everyone's shooting if they're open.

Booker finally hitting threes with the consistency we've hoped for. 48% on 6 3FGA/game so far.

Also love that we're committing to getting the ball to our bigs in post position on switches. Guards aren't refusing the entry pass, and we're doing it without hesitation, so we're not turning it over. Ayton can't get a whistle when he gets hacked on the arm down low, though. He's clearly frustrated by it.

While Ayton's looked pretty good early on, I think he's auditioning to extend his Suns tenure this season. If another backup gives us better production and we don't meet expectations in the playoffs, I think there's a good chance he gets moved next summer. The simple fact is that Booker's the man, now and for the foreseeable future. Bridges is his running mate. Cam Jo's a perfect fit when healthy. Chris Paul's not so critical to this team anymore: he's replaceable. And we can survive with a below-average bench. If it's not clear that Ayton is key to any of that, then we may very well decide to upgrade #3-10 on our roster by moving Deandre. I'm still rooting for him and hope he'll be here long term, but I think it's up in the air - and up to him - whether he sticks beyond this season.

Ayton's obviously very important to what we are doing. Obviously the 2nd most. By a pretty long shot with Paul regressing. Scoring the most PPG in his career, almost doubled the assists, down on rebounding while Mikal was crashing the boards, but showed how active he can be. Still could rebound more if not switched out. His efficiency was oddly low last night but that's an outlier based on an entire body of work last season. But he helps in so many areas that don't show up...defense, 3pt shooting, etc. I think he's also showed a little more on creating his own this season too.

The FO seems to care less about the C position but I am putting less stock in their decision making these days as well.

I think there is a good chance he is an all star this season. He was higher ranked than Towns by players last year, and Towns playing awful so far shooting 41% from the field and 31.8% from 3.

Obviously anyone's tradable for the right piece, but be careful to make big moves to core if you are playing very well as a team, even with a fairly weak bench.

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Lol

This gave me flashbacks to the playoffs

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[Frank Lee]

Chuck Crowder walking it back. Hes facing losing a precious season of playing, one of just a few left in his career. Guess hes warmed up to series of one yr vet mins coming his way. May be hes been talking to Melo….. really over played his hand. Burnt bridge?