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BobbieL wrote:

Spoiler:

Lakers cannot take on Paul unless its post 7/1. Only one team can take on Paul now and that is the Spurs to absorb his contract..

And post 7/1, not sure the Lakers would use 30m of cap space for Paul. The Lakers could wait until Paul is stretched or traded/waived to get him

I came up with this four player trade - but not sure he Clippers would want Robinson

Heat: Marcus Morris - expiring contract to get rid of Robinsons contract, 2nd round pick to the Spurs

Spurs: chris Paul, 3m from Suns and 2nd round pick from Heat

Clippers - would they take Duncan Robinson

Suns: Dougie Buckets and sending money to Spurs - Suns might have to give a future 2nd

Suns do this if they think Dougie Buckets + TPMLE >>> Full MLE

Qwigglez wrote:

BobbieL wrote:

Spoiler:

Lakers cannot take on Paul unless its post 7/1. Only one team can take on Paul now and that is the Spurs to absorb his contract..

And post 7/1, not sure the Lakers would use 30m of cap space for Paul. The Lakers could wait until Paul is stretched or traded/waived to get him

I came up with this four player trade - but not sure he Clippers would want Robinson

Heat: Marcus Morris - expiring contract to get rid of Robinsons contract, 2nd round pick to the Spurs

Spurs: chris Paul, 3m from Suns and 2nd round pick from Heat

Clippers - would they take Duncan Robinson

Suns: Dougie Buckets and sending money to Spurs - Suns might have to give a future 2nd

Suns do this if they think Dougie Buckets + TPMLE >>> Full MLE

Would Spurs be interested in trading Zach Collins? I'd take him and McBuckets if the Suns could.

Watanabe though is probably someone I think could start at the 3 for the Suns. He's a catch and shoot 3 specialist, and someone I was hoping would be included in the Durant deal. KD spoke highly of him when he was still on the Nets and I think he's one of those players that could be a late bloomer. Would be an easy outlet pass from Booker/KD when they get doubled.

Ghost of Kleine wrote:At this point, I really just want the Suns to guarantee Paul's 30 million ( IF we have a trade in place with Atlanta) for Collins/ Bey/ 36th pick. Run Collins at the 4 in an aaron Gordon type role and figure out a way to get Caruso for his elite defense, adfitional ballhandling, and high IQ plays.

Collins could be our Aaron Gordon. And Caruso could be our KCP. Then fill out the roster However we can. If we keep Ayton, we'd have great size, address our rebounding, physicality, rim protection, post defense with all three of Durant ( SF), Collins ( PF), and Ayton ( C). Caruso could play off of Booker defensively as a secondary ballhandler and elite lockdown perimeter/ pick n roll defender who is also familiar with Vogel.

If Vogel can really do wonders with bigs defensively and Fizdale is known as the " big man whisperer " too, imagine what those two could accomplish with a Collins/ Ayton frontcourt. Just have Collins play in a simplified role as a physical, rim running, shot blocking, rebounding defensive post presence. Durant can slide to the three so he wouldn't have to bang with the more physical 4's of the league and then he can use his size advantage over most 3's.

bwoolf2 wrote:

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He wants to stay in Phoenix.

“Absolutely,” Paul said. “That’s why I’m there.”

“I’ve talked with my family, we’ve had conversations about what could be, what might be,” Paul said. “I’ve talked with my agent. Talked to my brother (C.J. Paul).”

Saberestar wrote:

He wants to stay in Phoenix.

“Absolutely,” Paul said. “That’s why I’m there.”

“I’ve talked with my family, we’ve had conversations about what could be, what might be,” Paul said. “I’ve talked with my agent. Talked to my brother (C.J. Paul).”

Spoiler:

https://eu.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2023/06/15/absolutely-chris-paul-wants-to-stay-with-phoenix-suns/70326597007/

sunskerr wrote:

Saberestar wrote:

He wants to stay in Phoenix.

“Absolutely,” Paul said. “That’s why I’m there.”

“I’ve talked with my family, we’ve had conversations about what could be, what might be,” Paul said. “I’ve talked with my agent. Talked to my brother (C.J. Paul).”

Spoiler:

https://eu.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2023/06/15/absolutely-chris-paul-wants-to-stay-with-phoenix-suns/70326597007/

Of course he wants to stay given Phoenixs proximity to his house/family, but the reality is hes 38 making $30m to average 13/8 for a team who already has two primary offensive creators. Somethings gotta give. The production per $ does not make sense.

If the Suns can waive and re-sign him for cheaper (what is it, $18m) and hes willing to come off the bench, or at least play 28-29 mins as a starter, when they find a 3&D point guard to help out, he'll make sense for the team.

BobbieL wrote:

sunskerr wrote:

Saberestar wrote:

Spoiler:

https://eu.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2023/06/15/absolutely-chris-paul-wants-to-stay-with-phoenix-suns/70326597007/

Of course he wants to stay given Phoenixs proximity to his house/family, but the reality is hes 38 making $30m to average 13/8 for a team who already has two primary offensive creators. Somethings gotta give. The production per $ does not make sense.

If the Suns can waive and re-sign him for cheaper (what is it, $18m) and hes willing to come off the bench, or at least play 28-29 mins as a starter, when they find a 3&D point guard to help out, he'll make sense for the team.

But would that still be the right move -- or would it make more sense to get the full MLE.

So its either Chris Paul + TPMLE or one or two players using the MLE

Not sure a trade with the Spurs makes sense - -just because may not like the contract coming back

WeekapaugGroove wrote:

BobbieL wrote:

sunskerr wrote:
Of course he wants to stay given Phoenixs proximity to his house/family, but the reality is hes 38 making $30m to average 13/8 for a team who already has two primary offensive creators. Somethings gotta give. The production per $ does not make sense.

If the Suns can waive and re-sign him for cheaper (what is it, $18m) and hes willing to come off the bench, or at least play 28-29 mins as a starter, when they find a 3&D point guard to help out, he'll make sense for the team.

But would that still be the right move -- or would it make more sense to get the full MLE.

So its either Chris Paul + TPMLE or one or two players using the MLE

Not sure a trade with the Spurs makes sense - -just because may not like the contract coming back

I think it's pretty clearly CP + the TPMLE. You're just not getting much of a player with that little bit of extra cash.

Hell look at MLE signings across the league the past 5 years, Jae Crowder was one of the best of bunch.

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sunskerr wrote:Aaron Gordon is vastly different from John Collins. Gordon has better handles, probably a better defender (although Collins has improved somewhat), and a better passer.